Windows 10

It seems like Windows 8/8+ on steroids with respect to the mutilation of options and user control. It wasn't OK before when they started taking control away with Windows 8, and with more restrictions than before it's even less OK. Their Nazi control freak approach is going to cost them dearly. They're too stupid to see it, and they've been too stupid to see it for a good while now. Is that harsh criticism? I certainly hope so. I offer it as such, with the hope that someone from high up the executive food chain at Micro$haft sees it, gets offended and starts losing sleep over it. They would do well to start worrying about what people think about their nonsense. They need to park all of their stupid ideas about what they want us to have and gives us what we require if they want to remain relevant. I have no reason or need to be polite to them in public. The emperor is naked... (with an ugly birthday suit...) and, the fine robe is a hoax. If I wanted someone else to make all of my decisions and merely let me use whatever they want me to have I would have become a Mac user eons ago.

 

All msft is doing by skipping to win 10 is trying to skip their bad luck on even number version. They should have gone with the flow for the success of win 9, and THEN go to win 11.

If they go to cloud to print anything, they are going to crash and burn. That will be their grand mistake, just like their Office 13. Do we have to drink win water and breath win air? I'll be going to win linux in 2020, because their Office 13 mistake is going to crap on their OS's: odd and even number both. Bill needs to take his virtual reality glasses off.

You should hear the msft (minimum wage) representative at Best buy. He turns up a youtube msft presentation on virtual reality glasses at 120 dB, and said this is what Bill Gates wants (this is the loudest and most obnoxious best buys ever.) I would think Bill Gates wants to get rid of his scoliosis right about now or he will be in a wheel chair soon.

Msft better brainstorm how to stay in business now rather than make everyone worship them with paid subscriptions every month to print their documents. Could you imagine HP software on cloud? RIP!

 

Interface can go rot in hell for all I care; there are always interface altering 3rd party software that can help you reach whatever form you like.

It's the lack of hardware control with things like driver signature enforcement and UEFI that pisses me the most. And of course the whole APPs thing, they should make an option to fully disable the APPs platform for desktop users.

 

Amen to all that! And, I don't want to have to sign in using a Micro$lop account. Local Account FTW! Micro$hift need to keep their nasty keyloggers and spyware away from me, thank you very much.

 

Yeah I use a local account, these dudez ain't forcing me to use their mailing platform anytime soon

 

Yeah I dropped the MS account garbage too. I didn't even realize it was optional until I reinstalled my 8.1 install with no ethernet cable and didn't feel like setting up the WiFi. Was a pleasant surprise!

 

Yeah I didn't understand why people complaining about MS account requirement until I reinstalled for 8.1.

In 8 Setup, there was a button to create a local account.
In 8.1 / 10 Preview Setup, it was buried inside create a MS Account at the very last line. Where of course, very few people will read or see that far.

Not many people know that they can create an Google Account or MS Account with any email other than gmail or outlook.

 

In Win10 it is semi-forced. You won't be able to install it without Internet access however if you try to Log-in and fail with "wrong" password it will give you an option button to "try later".

Thanks for understanding. I also had thought that top border is something they will provide in RTM as a surprise "so that there is no reason to not to jump on it". At least by their opinion

 

So I reinstalled with BUILD 10125.

I noticed that they made it easier and much faster to join a domain out of the box. Got past that Setup screen in under a minute. (Much faster than the I own option)
Just create a local account and click next.

I guess I never noticed the semi forced requirement since I always join my systems to a domain (Even at home).
Did it again with the other option that ask for MS account, I managed to create a local account by clicking back on Create / Any event that isn't Sign in. (I don't think this step is complete)

 

I tried 1 week with the Win8 on my machine and I couldn't just take it anymore (one of the worst trade-offs was the OSD for Alienware machines, It would never work), Win7 FTW !!

When you make a local account the whole cloud sync + Store apps etc..must be disabled making the OS UX much better place, really wish they should implement this in RTM versions...

 

So... evidently, Bill Gates has gone mad in his virtual reality glasses where he does not have scoliosis any more. Even though he will be wheelchair bound, he will be perfectly content with his virtual reality glasses (what a waste of time those will be for poor students to infiltrate classrooms with microwaves.)

So what's the solution in 202o? Will everyone have to become Unix programmers and then use Linux? Hopefully there will be time for 2 more Win versions until then praying one will be close to Win7. It really is hard to believe out of the millions of IT grads in the last 60 years, that no one can come up with a competitive OS to replace windows.

All the Linux guys would have to do is freeze Win7 and evolve all the invisible crap that filters to a control center mastered by the owner. Then Bill Gates would finally shrivel up and die maybe. At this point, it is just a pissing match to him and he seems like he is just trying to inflict the most harm to users wills at this point. He does not care about msft's business plan in the least.

 

Found the problem. It was iGPU which took additional 7-10W. Nvidia has OpenCL bug on the latest Win10 driver so I used iGPU and that increased CPU's TDP and that forced CPU to throttle.

 

This is good news, no subscription fees for Windows 10 (some people were concerned they would start charging after the free upgrade to Windows 10):
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ms-will-not-charge-for-windows-10-updates.html

 

Maybe some of the pessimists will at least hold off judgement and take rumors with a grain of salt moving forward?


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I would have to ask, because of? If you are saying pricing I doubt many here, as pirating is frowned upon, have an issue with paying for their OS.

 

I got my information from the minimum wage Msft rep at Best Buys at 120 dB. He said almost verbatim that Msft was going to do what it wanted like Apple despite any objections from the public. "They did it so we are going to do the same thing." Well, errr, they executed and performed to customers expectations. "No, I just got back from a Msft meeting and they said all that mattered was 1. Virtual reality glasses, 2. Win 10 start up, and 3. Win7 is discontinuing next year, end of story. Apple and Google did it and we are doing the same thing. Listen to this video about artificial intelligence." He then started a video at 120dB with just him and me standing there, so I just walked away.

By saying nothing when Msft reps say how it is going to be, says you accept the change in contractual obligations. I don't agree.

As an engineering statistician, pessimists are usual;y correct since things usually stay the same. Look at the straight decades' trends and where they are going. Last century, I always thought Bill Gates was the man of the century. He has gone mad with money this century.

 

Pessimism != realism.


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Don't care, still installing Windows 7 on my future desktop.

 

BS

Windows 7 has extended support until 2020, end of story. We'll see who can hold out longer: The proponents of the "Modern" crap, or the people just sticking with Win7.

 

Me too. Until 2020, I do not see any other alternative.

Maybe that is Bill's plan. Him and Warren Buffet wrecked our economy so he could start a branch of Win 8 converts from minimum wage Best Buys stores, and then branch outward beyond his death. Then his plans get a little fuzzy and falls apart.

It is kind of like steal object oriented logic from Apple, steal dos from IBM, make Windows, and then his plan was a little fuzzy too. After many generations though, we did get Win7 somehow. I guess he finally realized he needed a stable OS, while he is making the masses use the current poor excuse iteration of an OS based on moonie devotion to pay him installments for life for nothing (on their minimum wage salaries)!

 

Although a step never taken before, and pure rear orifice speculation, Windows 7 can be stopped by the company. Since there is no longer main stream support they could pull back all availability of licenses not already purchased and/or installed-activated at a certain point. Hard to argue with not selling what is no longer supported.

In other words no new Windows 7 machines getting activated. This actually would be a good statistical move as it would force purchasing into the new OS/UI before Linux or anything else is ready to compete. Even if the OS is free the investment into market saturation of the OS and other software would solidify it.

 

That is what the minimum wage BestBuys Msft rep was suggesting, but I don't think Bill is man enough to tear his business down in a single move: although he'd like too after almost all of his ideas go sour,

Something would happen alright, but I don't think the probabilities would be on his side. There is now enough innovation and and serious opposition to Msft that it would be the boiling point. Things happen most often due to necessity, and Msft does not hold the cards anymore, If he presses the situation beyond logical reasoning, in due time, it will press back. I think all of us who have lived through the Msft schemes would like to see a final show down.

Let's look at his hand: he has Win7 OS and 2010 Office, nothing else to speak of. So he is going to get rid of Wni7, and Office 2010 while he's at it? I think businesses, European courts, and other individuals would get what is left from Msft before they went belly up. Then let free competition decide who is the best or one of the best afterwards. Game on! Of course this is speculation from watching it unravel since the mid nineteen eighties.

And Win 10? He is just now doing beta testing, so who knows how many more years it will take. He KNOWS 2 bad OS's in a row will kill Msft for good, from a market leader to a has-been, if they are even alive.

I never used Vista, I tried Win 8 until it stopped and I couldn't even turn my laptop off (a Sony), and I think Gates jinxed Win 10 with the 'death' OS numerical sequence. Either way, I'll wait until 202o before I switch OS's to whatever unless prompted earlier.

 

Microsoft is not going to fail no matter what they release. If we need evidence of that, look at Windows 2, Windows 3, Windows 3.1, Windows ME, Windows Vista, Windows 8... All of them horribly broken while Apple had a far superior OS. And still does. People buy it. You would be amazed how many people wouldn't care if Microsoft charged a subscription fee... I mean people pay MMO fees.....

 

Shut up, don't talk about fees, it's a rude word, plus they might be listening! ;-)

 

Has anyone experienced higher CPU usage during idle, when the screen is off?

I managed to find out that BackgroundTaskHost.exe & RuntimeBroker.exe is where the usage comes from, but I can't find out why. Can it be something with the lock screen? Which btw. I can't change, I have a note saying " some settings are managed by your organization".

 

Is it just me or Windows 8.0 & 8.1 icons and fonts are rendered much crappier than Windows 7 ... They kind of feel pixlated ... & if I am not wrong is that same issue plagues Windows 10 as well ?

 

fast ring 10130 make my x200 into complete boot loop.
ouch MS, What did you do?

 

When Apple programmed software, it was closer to machine language and was far superior. Msft just adopted thousand of man years of programming from IBM dos and copied Apple object oriented user interface: and cheap accountants made their decision, like they did in obsolete languages they still use today.

But when the big number 2 language folded and USED Msft for their own OS, that was a big hit to users. Switching to Mac is switching back to Msft, in a way since Msft programs Mac's OS now (THAT may be Msft's number one business now - ?). Programming an O/S must not be so hot of a job, but what else does Msft have now?

And contrary to the highly paid minimum wage BestBuys Msft rep's reports, Msft has just GIVEN resellers rights to distrbute Win 7 and Office 2010 with hardware (you get a scrap pc board with sloppy soldering for free.) I think what Msft DOES outweighs what they SAY they will do.

You may be right about them never going away, but I'd just like to see someone else be number one since Msft is so adversarial of a vendor. But no one is rushing to the opportunity, so no one evidently wants the overhead associated with an OS. Too bad.

 

I have to wonder, what is all this babble about Bill Gates all about? You are aware, are you not, that Bill Gates is not involved in any of the technical or business decisions of Microsoft anymore, at all? That he has not exerted any influence on such decisions since 2006? In other words, that Bill Gates had nothing whatsoever to do with anything related to Windows 8 and later? Sheesh...

Fascinating. What planet is it again where the above events took place? What color is the sky on that planet?

 

http://www.davemanuel.com/net-worth/bill-gates/

Bill Gates is Chairman of the Board of Msft, and maybe number one shareholder. He is or would be the richest man in the world if he is not downgraded to number 2 for his 'charity' to save the world from poverty and America's educational system.

He hasn't put a dent in either of those 2 goals from observation, but it has saved up to billions off his taxes.

If you are naive enough to believe the COB and past CEO and master software architect, AND possibly largest owner of Msft has nothing to do with Msft's business, then I cannot counter that logic, lol.

 

On the planet I live on what I wrote is true. Here, it is also true that Bill Gates has less than a 4% stake in the company, which may lead informed observers to believe that his influence on the overall direction of Microsoft is limited. We may also note that Bill Gates is not even the company's biggest shareholder anymore.

Like I said, I have no idea what things are like in your part of the universe, or even what rules of "logic" are believed valid there, so by all means, don't let the reality on my planet stop you from enjoying your very own world.

 

I googled this phrase and it appears that there is no famous author whose quote that would be. So it's safe to call this quote as your and this phrase is strong. I will keep it.

 

Although, if you think about it, there's nothing to say that 'his planet' is anymore based in reality than the others 'very own world', but it is a strong quote on the surface!

 

Apple has a superior OS? Hahaha, no... Well, maybe for someone, but not for me.
Anyway, 10130 is available for DL, downloading it right now.

 

10130 is crap on my test and main machine. 10074 is actually useable.

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Well it is on "fast ring" of updates, so one would expect it to be buggy, just like majority of other fast ring updates.

 

OS X is one beast of an operating system. It may not be for everyone but when it comes to raw performance and stability, OS X obliterates Windows because of its hybrid XNU kernel. With its start in BSD, it already gained the advantages of SMP and OS X manages memory much better. I can't personally stand the look of OS X but I can admit that the underlying XNU kernel makes NT kernel look extremely dated.

 

I personally don't go that deep. It's just that Windows can run every program I need, be it AutoCAD or FSX. OSX or Linux can't, simple as that. Sure they are nice OS'es, I used OSX and a few Linux distros (Debian being my favorite), but none of them come even close to Windows in terms of compatibility. Yeah sure, I can dual boot, but why should I when 7 has everything I need?
And my sister manages to hang OSX the same way she managed to hang XP. From my experience XP/7/8 were/are very stable OS'es. I don't care what kernel they have, all I know is that 7 runs better for me than XP, and 8 has no problem running on a T100 with 3rd gen Atom CPU and 2GBs of RAM. I mean, I run Inventor and AutoCAD on T100.

 

I feel sorry for you guys for struggling with your OS. Marty McFly brought me last week a nano-PC with Windows 50 as gifts for my birthday. The OS is AMAZING!!! WOW!!! SPEECHLESS!!!. Sadly I can't say more about the Win50 because this could alter the future .

 

That's about 3rd part application support, which has nothing to do with the OS itself, but the business strategy of the company promoting it.

It's true that most users would not care about the underlying OS, only the apps they can run on it. The exceptions are usually find on two extremes of user demands spectrum, which is exactly the opposite of the typical power users found on those forums.

 

Well that's what MS actually pride themselves of about backwards compatibility .
As long the software doesn't depend on hardware, the odds of it working without modification on newer version of Windows are much better than all other OSes

My experiences in both professional and personal, I have gotten more success getting 10+ yr old software to run in Windows than 6+ months old software in Linux without touching the keyboard.
Though in the end, I gotten more success getting the software to work in a VM due to budget restraint.

 

Yes.

Now I come to think about it, backwards-compatibility of MS's offers made a difference even back in the MS-DOS days. While they are not exactly the best example in backwards-compatibility, they did put more focus in this than their direct competitors. And it must have made customers happy. I guess one could say MS knowingly sacrificed technically doing the right thing at times to reduce the surprises of people using old software and it worked well for them. Linux devs usually go in the opposite direction, deliberately killing deprecated but perfectly functioning code to increase consistency in the long run, at the cost of breaking things when they don't really have to.


As for Mac, what exactly happened when Apple made the decision "screw it, we don't even want PPC emulation now, X86 all the way"?

 

WinBooks and Hackintoshing happened

 

Rosetta never worked as intended. It was extremely slow, riddled with bugs, and it just made more sense to make it easy to cross-port for both x86 and PPC with xcode as universal apps. Did you ever use Rosetta? I was involved in getting OS X to install natively rather than having to use the VMware image and Rosetta was just a mess. I was happy to see it killed.

 

Thanks.

No, I never touched Rosetta. I rarely use Mac back then. My Googling on what happened didn't return solid info and I just hoped someone who experienced that transition could bring some light for me.

So Apple didn't really want to kill it, they just couldn't get it to work.

 

What's with the new windows 10 promotion like software that was injected to my PC last night ? anyone else had that ... How did they do that ? I have auto updates off !

 

Code translation from PPC to x86 is insanely slow. That's why the emulator, PearPC, never got anywhere. It was possible to install OS X on Pear... If you had 3 hours to spare.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

Installed any updates recently? They have a few KBs they snuck in

 

It in was one of the important updates a couple months back.

It was expected. I think we had a whole page complaining about it too.

 

I had uninstalled all the updates that even remotely hint at anything like this ... & installed nothing ever since