Windows 10

Until MS publishes a page with the various features like or Windows 7 and 8.1, it'll be hard to tell for sure. My guess is that group policies, RDP host, likely bitlocker, Hyper-V client, VHD features and a few other things will be Windows 10 Pro and enterprise only. For most people this is likely to make no difference at all. For others, the ability to initiate a remote desktop connection, have a VM manager included in the OS and so on is likely to be very useful. client Hyper-V is no VMWare, but when I needed to fire up an XP VM for an old program, it was there and I was up and running in no time.

 

Strange...

 

I read the FAQ which was helpful, actually answered some questions I had. One question that's unanswered is moving the Windows 10 activation to another machine? It appears this will get married to a single device. In the FAQ, Microsoft says that Windows 10 will not use a product key but will simply become activated. Which makes me think that Windows 10 will install and activate if the prior OS was activated and will use the product key from the previous OS. Just a thought.

Something tells me this upgrade will be restricted to a single machine i.e. OEM and if you want to move a license to another machine it might require purchasing a retail product. But even there they have not addressed if that will use a product key.

 

any end date for the "reserve offer"?
running preview now, gonna need to find my sticker and install windows on a external to get the reserve.
ANNOYING~

I want to do it later...

 

After a little more reading the reserve offer is NOT necessary. You can download Windows 10 at any time after July 29th and you have one year or till July 28th 2016 to install it on your computer. After that date it's no longer free.

The reserve is really handy as it will begin downloading the ISO to install immediately or to save for a later date on July 29th.

 

Anyone else NOT receiving the Windows 10 upgrade notification in the taskbar? As far as I know my laptop would easily meet the minimum specs for Win 10, I also have all the Windows Updates installed - I don't have it on automatic upgrade but set to 'notify me and then I manually agree to the Windows updates'. (Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit - Genuine product, Product ID Number has an "OEM" listed within it so wondering if that's an issue?)

 

Seems a few people have this issue, have a look at the link below. If you scroll down halfway someone has done a script command prompt to see if you have everything in place and then will tweak the registry to show. It's a dropbox link.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...10-but-i/848b5cce-958b-49ae-a132-a999a883265b

 

Thanks, that link has been updated since I saw it last with the dropbox link - I ran it and now the icon is there & now my Windows 10 copy is reserved, +rep, thanks! Although when I ran the 'Check PC' option within the tool it's saying they'll be incompatibilities with my graphics card (670MX) - I think it's because it's a non-standard card in my laptop, I have to disable driver signing to install the NV drivers as a result - I think this is why it's been flagged. I think I'll be able to get round this by just disabling Driver Signing Enforcement in Windows 10.

 

For now... hopefully, forever... but probably not. Should be interesting.

Here's another discussion that really belongs here...

 

A year after release.

Got home and saw that my lappy was also affected by this little sucker (KB3035583). Windows logo popped up and offered to upgrade for free. Too bad there was no way I could decline it. Next thing I did was uninstall this update and hide it.
Not a fan of the way MS implemented their new OS "promotion."

 

Yes, I hope it will be forever, but I understand your pessimism (or realism!?). Aftermarket GPU upgrades requiring disabling Driver Signing Enforcement - hopefully the current ability to do that with the preview builds of Windows 10 will transfer through to the final version & then remain forever - if it does not then I'm thinking I've always got the option of going back to Windows 7 & have it activated on the same Windows Key (I'd just reinstall from a Windows 7 image using Macro Reflect - that's my plan anyway!).

 

Me, too... always ready to go with images to undo the damage any time I don't like something from Micro$haft. In most areas of life I am an optimistic person, whose glass is always half-full. I hope they do things that makes us all happy with Windows 10. They've already fooled me twice, so shame on me. Sometime you just learn there are immutable facts and figure out how to deal with them. One of those is to never expect anything good from Micro$haft and there will be no reason to be overly disappointed. When they do something excellent, and once in a while they actually do, then it's a reason to be very happy and thankful.

With that restore operation taking all of about 10 to 15 minutes, I'm never afraid to try their software or updates to see if they are any good. Macrium Reflect FTW! Awesome utility.

 

is there a way to permanently disable DSE in windows?

 

Exactly, and it was you that made me aware of Macrium Reflect in the first place - thanks! (Haha, I called it Macro Reflect in my last post!)

 

Sort of... you still have to disable it in an extra step at Windows boot to install modded or unsigned drivers.

I'll be back in a bit and copy/paste some commands I use to get back control of some things Micro$haft has stolen from us. Not sure all of them will work with Windows 10 RTM until we can try them on the final product.

Edit: Here you go...

Code:

bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS

bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON

This will create a desktop watermark. I use " My WCP Watermark Editor" or an equivalent workaround to get rid of that with Windows 8.X.

And, to get the legacy F8 menu at Windows boot...

Code:

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy

Press F8 right after the BIOS splash screen and it will bring up the menu to choose boot options just like Windows 7.

 

Actually, I want EVERYONE to start using win 10 today! Well, everyone but me.
Everyone was looking like they were going to start loading drivers if there were any last week.

What's the holdup? Do you have to wait to June 29, 15? This is going to be great!

 

I'm not familiar with Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, so don't know much about disabling Driver Signing Enforcement. Can't you do it like this, was your option a quick way of doing the following:
http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how...8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

Does the option at the howtogeek website create that watermark too? Does driver signing enforcement just need to be disabled for the time that you actually install the unsigned drivers - ie after install can you revert settings back to using signed drivers?

 

All good questions if you haven't used Window 8/8.X/10 yet. First, yes... exactly as the howtogeek.com tutorial in your link shows is the standard way of doing it. The crappy part about the standard way is you have to go into Windows first, then reboot, so it is unnecessarily cumbersome and a waste of time doing that. If you run the command line (bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy) to restore the legacy boot menu it makes things much easier and faster. Windows 8 and newer flavors are notorious for being inefficient and cumbersome compared to Windows 7 and older, so using a legacy option being superior should come as no surprise.

If all you do is disable it at boot to install unsigned drivers (or a modded driver, which breaks the signature,) and not disable it within Windows there should be no watermark. After the driver is successfully installed and you reboot normally (without disabling DSE) it will be active automatically. You do not need to do anything to turn it back on again. Disabling it in Windows and activating 'Test Mode' is what causes the watermark.

A lot of us just prefer to have it disabled in Windows. Doing that creates a watermark in Windows 7 as well. The watermark is not an atrocity unique to Windows 8. I hate DSE and want it disabled on all of my OSes because the whole concept of Windows making decisions for me and trying to block me from doing whatever and going wherever my whims and fancies lead me to is objectionable, even if their intent is to help avoid the execution of malicious code. For that reason, I also disable User Account Control (UAC) Data Execution Prevention (DEP) "features"... I want them out of my way, forever. I prefer to fight my own battles without any influence from Micro$haft. I don't want or need their help with security. I have been running my systems this way since Vista was first released, and without incident.

The bad habits and unethical practices of some folks create a dire need for draconian security measures, so I understand the basis for the approach they are taking with all of this over the top security crap. As long as I am able to turn off everything and do things my way, I'm fine with them making Windows defaults cater to the lowest common denominators in the PC world. I do not even run antivirus software any more, and have not for quite a while now. But, I do not do things that put my system at higher than normal risk. I do not randomly surf into the darkest corners of the web, frequent questionable torrent and software piracy havens, don't visit naughty adult web sites or have my system stocked with a payload of cracked software carrying Trojan horses. Those practices will ultimately lead to malware infection even with the strongest security measures available.

 

Thanks for the explanation Mr. Fox, I'll make a note of your bcdedit stuff and then I'll be able to use that during the NVidia Graphics Driver install. I'll probably just temporarily disable driver signing, I can live with the extra work at each NVidia install (he says now!).

 

i have the default bootmenupolicy set to legacy when i was installing modded nvidia drivers....worked like a charm.

still wondering if using the insider preview = free upgrade or not.

 

UAC is the most useless & irritating feature ever introduced to any product in existence. That ofc before the marvels that came with W8

 

I think that's been made pretty clear already. Only upgrading from a valid activated W7 or 8.1 will work for the "free upgrade".


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Oh well, I still have my win 8.1 key so no biggie.

 

I still don't have the invite, I heard that Win 7 RTM versions are ineligible for the free upgrade, is the Windows that my R2 came with RTM (retail, so I presume it is)? I've tried everything here and still do not have the invite icon:

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-get-the-windows-10-upgrade-icon-if-its-missing/

 

We got to create a separate topic for Win10 Invites because I'm tired reading same questions again and again (as many others I suppose) while don't want to delete subscription on this one.

 

Let's put this in the first post of this thread then as an EDIT, courtesy of tinker_xp who solved my same problem with the lack of Windows 10 upgrade notification:

 

Yeah I did the script above, if anyone actually bothered to follow the link in my query. I originally created a separate thread for this issue I'm experiencing in the Alienware M18x R2 forum, but a mod there threw it in here, I'm simply following up on my original question.

 

so every time i boot from a cold boot it would show the alienware logo then go straight to a black screen (with no black light). if i reboot the computer it boots fine.

i have no idea what's causing this and i think it has to do with something in Win 10. i have tried a reformat and that still didn't work so i have reverted back to 8.1.

 

Strange! Hopefully not an omen for the final release of Windows 10. I was gonna say it might be something to do with your non-standard graphics card, but other people like Mr. Fox didn't have these problems with a non-standard card and Win 10. Congrats on the new card by the way, and also on the good overclock you've got running on it, so wish my R3 was compatible with Maxwell - I'd be slapping a 970M in there & overclocking it within an inch of it's life!

 

Well, win 8.1 boots fine so it has to be something in the OS as I am using the 980M with both. I also doubt you that the nvidia drivers but I have no substantial proof.

 

good day! Do windows 8.1 operating systems only have the free upgrade to win 10?

 

No, Win 7, Win8, Win 8.1 are all having the free upgrade to win 10.

 

yay! Thanks!

 

Nvidia drivers are really screwing with me with their refusal to work from a cold boot and causing a black screen at start up

not gonna bother any more till release.

 

At least you're not alone. Misery loves company. It seems that NVIDIA has become pretty incompetent (or maybe just unethical) at driver development.

 

It's nuts because it's so close to release. For me right now win 8.1 is still functional with the help of classic shell.

 

The wddm2.0 for AMD suck ( not performance hit but rather completely unusable) as well until today's slow ring build 10130.

Sent from my 306SH

 

Mmmm... completely unusable is never a good thing. Another ouch for AMD is also not a good thing. Whether one is a fan or red or green, I think it is accurate to say we all depend on AMD's existence. It is an important part of holding NVIDIA accountable and keeping them honest. From the looks of things, we're not very good at that, LOL.

 

@j95 believes that PEG / dedicated mode is broken in the Win10 drivers.

 

Just decided to write a funny feeling how MS used to artificially separate Win8 and 8.1 creating separate marketing materials for both "OS", calling jump from 8 to 8.1 as "Upgrade" isntead of "Update" etc.
And now they comletely abandoned Win8 and call Win8 family of windows as simply Win 8.1. That's one of those cheap tricks which made everyone sick.

 

Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10147 has Leaked

Check the usual suspects for ISO download links

This may very well be the next Fast Ring Build?

EDIT:
Downloaded the 10147 ISO from MEGA
Unpacked the ISO using WinRAR to a new folder on my Windows 10 build 10130 desktop

Right clicked the setup.exe and ran as Administrator

After upping the files the 3 stage update from build 10130 went smoothly.

Been running 10147 a few hour and all seems good with no issues.

This is on a Sandy Bridge MSI GT780DX with an i7 2760 ,GTX570M,16GB Ram,3 SSDs and an Intel AC-7260

Still no driver support from NVIDIA for 5 series GPUs,version 347.25 is installed by Windows 10 10147

Modded driver is the way right now for newer drivers.

 

So? Windows 8.1 is better than 8 in every single regard. There's no reason not to update to 8.1 if you're running 8.

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Actually I think there are a few out there with either software, driver and/or system firmware issues that are prevented from doing an upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1. There are those too from earlier headaches that will never go near the update either.

 

I've got 7 Ultimate x64 on 1 SSD,8.1 Pro x64 on another SSD and 10 Insider Preview Pro x64 on a third SSD insde a 3.5 year old Sandy Bridge notebook.

No ODD in any of my PCs,obsolete,haven't burnt a disk or played one in ages.

Windows 8.1 is the daily driver.

Windows 7 is where my color management software and printing apps reside.

Windows 10 is for keeping ahead of the curve;a learning process but IMO not very different from 8.1 except if a non pro core version where auto update and driver installation can't be disabled.

 

downing the 10147 build.

 

Well, I'm all ready to go. While I have hated the Windows OS X Preview and gave up on it after about 90 days of nonsense, I'm signed up for the "free" bait and switch offer, have my fresh Windows 7 and 8.1 drive images all set, etc. I'll give it fair shake, hoping the final product will be better than the Preview builds I hated. I am more than willing to let Micro$haft have a good 60 days to win me over and if it's not appreciably better than Windows 7 or 8.1, Windows OS X will be gone much faster and easier than it got installed. I'm just hoping I can download an ISO and do a clean install. If the only option is an upgrade in place, I may change my mind about giving them a final opportunity to change my mind. If I cannot disable Automatic Updates and manage my system in whatever manner I deem appropriate, I have strong doubts I will be willing to put up with such glaring ethical misconduct.

 

Build 10147 Pro x64 is very stable so far.

Check the downloaded ISO that the MD5 matches.

NVIDIA 5 series and older have not been getting new Windows 10 drivers

No DX12 for older GPUs that are not supported

My GTX570M only gets DX11.2 but my GTX850M in another notebook got DX12 and new NVIDIA drivers

 

I am getting a 1TB SSD to replace the 750GB HDD. My plan on the main system is to run Windows 7 on the 1TB, then with the existing 480GB SSD running Linux. My plan is to try out several distro's.

I am looking for the easiest for now for casual users. I know there is nothing like Windows 7 out there right now but if we do not start the quest now it will be too late soon. I feel as an enthusiast I need to help drive the market to an alternate Windows solution in every way possible. For short;

1.) Helping with the community to make the OS/UI consumer friendly.
2.) Helping with support wherever possible.
3.) Driving up market share for PC's to entice developers.
4.) Start to nudge developers with my own market choices.

I will still give Windows 10 a chance but I firstly have little faith and secondly want to get a jump. Windows 8.0 and then 8.1 really started this feeling but with the promise of listening with Windows 10 I held off but feel I can not do so any longer.

So the plan is Linux everywhere possible and for now Windows 7 for production software. Once I can dump Windows 7 I may do that too. But for now if at least all internet usage of the OS can be eliminated the production use may even last past 2020 if need be just without updates.

IMHO an OS developed by enthusiasts will not then look to lock out other enthusiasts.

 

giving build 10147 a go on my spare SSD (which i should have done earlier).

Edit: looks good so far. but will still keep testing.

 

I have made a habit of placing any expendable/disposable OS on my mSATA with the other drives disconnected during Windows installation, and changing BIOS boot order instead of dual-booting using Windows. If the OS doesn't meet my expectations, or just turns out to be a piece of trash OS that I don't want to waste any time with, it doesn't affect anything else and I can wipe it out without any kind of drama or rigmarole involving the OS I care about.

I'd dearly love to be in a position of ditching Windoze, and it would be very satisfying to see Linux steal a massive amount of market share from the Redmond Nazis. It needs to do anything and everything Windoze does, as good or better, but I don't know that it can adequately serve my needs in that manner. There are very few games that interest me that run on Linux and I've never been able to get the kind of CPU overclocking and GPU driver support (especially multi-GPU support) that I require in a Linux environment. Basic computing (web, email, office productivity apps) is done very well and it can already replace Windoze in that capacity, but anything advanced that has to do with overclocking, benching or gaming that I have attempted has either been incomplete, simply not worked, or required so much effort that it was more of a chore than a rewarding experience.