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    Windows 10

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by WhatsThePoint, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. thegh0sts

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    will this mean a potential move to win 10 @Mr. Fox?
     
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    Haha, well there is the whole performance issue not to be forgotten! I, for one, am very pleased though about the ability to prevent targeted Windows 10 updates using a tool that is released by Microsoft themselves - a good move! 2 days countdown!!!
     
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    As I mentioned in a previous post, I am going to install it in a multi-boot setup to see what I can exploit from it. I'm not interested in "new" because there's no value in something being new as far as I am concerned. (In fact, new almost always means garbage by today's standards.) I only care about what's in it for me. I am always open to having my mind changed, but I am not expecting it to be a suitable replacement for Windows 7. I will have to wait and see, but I have almost no expectations for anything good from Windoze OS X. With my bar being set so low just about anything... even something really insignificant... will be a win to some degree. If it somehow magically turns out to be good enough to replace Windows 7, I'll be happy to use the drive space for something else. If it doesn't, I will continue to enjoy the smug satisfaction of using Windows 7 for everything meaningful and things will be business as usual. What it is all going to boil down to for me is performance and control. I must have both. If those are better, I really don't give a hoot about the UI because I am going to tweak, hack and rearrange that to be exactly what I want it to be no matter what.

    So, yeah... I'm excited about measuring it six ways to Sunday. Will be fun even if it's a pile of crap. Bucket loads of love or hate... one or the other... incoming.
     
  4. thegh0sts

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    still gonna hold out.
     
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    I still say reserve all till we see the EULA and RTM but this is a convenient 11th hour showing. :)
     
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    Looking forward to your reviews on it. I know I'm gonna post something about how it performs on my laptop. I have synthetic & game benchmarks recorded for comparison (Windows 7), so I'll know if I'm getting more/less/or the same performance from Windows 10. I'm looking forward to testing it out!
     
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    Some things in life are just low priority in the grand scheme of things. Having a new OS from Redmond Mafia is low priority in my book. They need something to new to sell, so it's necessary for them... but it's unimportant and unnecessary as far as I'm concerned, LOL.

    Besides that, publicly ridiculing the incompetence of Micro$haft will be almost as much fun as if they deliver a winner. I'd prefer the winner, but I'll squeeze some lemonade and make it a fun exercise either way.
     
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    No matter what you think about the features in Windows 10, it still looks half baked. Edge crashes very easy for me, and there are so many details that just doesn't look good.

    A lot have happened the last couple of months, but it's not enough. I'd say that January is a good timeframe to try it out more seriously. Until then you don't really have to care about it, unless you're just curious. There will be some driver problems in the beginning, I've already had my fair share of them.
     
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    Yeah, I'm just in it for DX12, plus the generic fun of testing of course! As far as I'm concerned I don't need anything better than Windows 7 as an interface (wish they'd just wack DX12 on it, but that's naive of course!), but I'm willing to test out Windows 10 to see if it's better on that front too.
     
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    DX12 will mostly help lower end CPU's keep up with better GPU's. We with higher end systems will rarely come across where a game is unplayable because of a CPU bottle neck that DX12 will alleviate. Now it may help in synthetics though, but there are only a few that will care about that other than the unknowing public.
     
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    This is what I am holding out for. If it does that, it will at least earn a small spot on an unobtrusive corner sliver of my system for benchmarks. If it doesn't deliver on the synthetics, then I will lose interest in it really fast. The only reason I am wasting my mSATA space on Windows 8.1 is for Fire Strike benchmarks.
     
  12. thegh0sts

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    i won't touch it till i get the 120hz panel installed so i can rule out optimus mode.
     
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    Still no interest. Nothing has changed: Windows 10 offers nothing I want, and removes things I do want, so it's a no-brainer. Otherwise, big yawn. Ask me again next year.
     
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    I wont update to 10 as i dont see much of a difference between 8.1 and 10 and also the bad things i heard about it. Windows 8.1 with classic shell is like using a faster version of windows 7 to me and its stable too. I still remember the days people was excited when a new windows was coming out but now its like meh whatever and who cares.
     
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    Now it works fine, even though WU hasn't updated any drivers.

    Some other updates were installed and the build number jumped to 10240.163 93.
     
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    Great find! I might have to install this on my home server. Having to download direct from MS every time I stage a new install is very bandwidth wasteful imho. Would be great to have a repository of updates and deploy them locally. Thanks.

    But as far as the Windows 10 tool, it's just a band-aid and not part of Windows. You will still be forced to install the update, just have the option to remove it. Which is better than nothing I suppose, but Microsoft can't seem to smell a fart until after it's suffocated them.

    With Win 8 you needed a third party app to add back in the critical feature Microsoft took away, the start menu. With Windows 10 you will need to do the same thing with the update tool. Why can't they just build on Windows 7 instead of trying to reinvent the bus?
     
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    will you lose your win 8.1 once upgrading to 10?
     
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    I think you will if you stay on Windows 10 after the 30 day trial period.
     
  20. thegh0sts

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    oh ok. yeah i don't want to have to pay for a new 8.1 key because 10 doesn't work. so will hang back or try with my win 7 key :p
     
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    For those folks in the UK (BST), rollout for Windows 10 begins tomorrow at 5am (or 12am ET)! I'm gonna leave my laptop on & connected overnight in the hope that it might download the update!
     
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    May the lord be with you on your quest.
     
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    I had KB2952664 earlier today - I installed it. Microsoft say that it is: "Compatibility Update for Windows 7 - This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.". What that actually does I do not know.
     
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    Well this is my Windows 7 machine so I don't want anything that can bring this disaster called Windows 10 on it nor do I want my Windows 7 key to be upgraded. I have a Windows 8.1 Pro key so what I'll do is install Windows 8.1 Pro and use that to get the upgrade :)
     
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    The crap is ready to start hitting the fan :) Have seen reports of users already having got the install files.
    Will sit comfortably at a safe distance and watch the show, could be quite a dose of entertainment...

    Am definitely not wishing any unsuspecting \ inexperienced pc owners any harm, but they are the ones most likely to get hurt (no image\backups\disaster routines), many 'things' are bound to happen. No way I can believe MS has taken everything into consideration (but will gladly applaud and bow in respect if they manage smooth upgrades for (nearly) everyone).
     
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  27. baii

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    I think Asian time zone got a install file pushed already.

    actually it is partly downloaded on mine already, under system called "windows BT" whatever.
     
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    Well, on second thought I decided not to use a Windows 8.1 Pro key. I'm going to use my OEM Dell Windows 7 disk. Although it's the Home Premium version it won't cost me a licensed key if I don't like it.
     
  29. TANWare

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    It took getting IE11 installed on my P79 to get the notification. As I said, I'll bite to see what is up. Good news though is where this system had lost aero glass with IE 10 or 11 and the related updates it seems to be fixed now.

    Using resource monitor that DL to software distribution is flying at 2 MB/s.
     
  30. thegh0sts

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    i also have a dell windows 7 key but i don't know how to use it to redeem for windows 10.
     
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    I'm thinking you could reinstall Windows 7 and activate it with your Dell Windows 7 key, and then upgrade to Windows 10. Then your current key you're using would still remain unsullied by Windows 10 activation. Having said that why not just use your current key to upgrade to Windows 10, and then you've always got your spare unused Dell Windows 7 key that can remain Windows 7 - that's less work overall right (especially if you decide to stay on Windows 10).
     
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    i have spare HDDs available so i could do an install test....if i could be arsed!
     
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    Who's already got the Windows 10 upgrade files already downloaded to your PC? You'll know if you've received the install for Windows 10 as a new folder will appear on your operating system partition - $windows.~BT. I don't have this yet (in UK here, I'm not part of Windows Insider Program). If you've got the files downloaded already, then there's a good chance that you'll be one of the first to upgrade.
     
  34. shaggyskunk

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    What's this?

    [​IMG]

    Just rebooted to 8.1

    Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v1.8.1
     
  35. Robbo99999

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    Well there you go, it's ready to upgrade to Windows 10! Where in the world are you? (Just trying to get an understanding of which areas might have the update 1st).
     
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    I'm in Eastern Canada - But it doesn't boot into 10 - And Windows Update still showing 10 as being reserved

    Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v1.8.1
     
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    Really hyped but I'm sure Middle East will be the last area to get it.
     
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    Did you go into Windows Update again & see what it has to say about any options to Install Windows 10? Did you look at the history of updates to see if any updates failed?
     
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    So there is no ISO to do a clean install of the RTM ?
     
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    Yeah - 8.1 updates failed
    Tried Win Update again and get the same Win 10 is ready to install - "restart your computer" - boots into 8.1 again - lol
    Probably MS is ready - but just waiting for the date to flip to the 29th

    Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v1.8.1
     
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    Yeah, good point, try it again in about 7hr 40mins!
     
  42. baii

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    People had turn the downloaded esd file into iso, not sure it works now though.

    Sent from my 306SH

    Edit: some Chinese seem to already got the upgrade using the esd turn into iso or native upgrade.
     
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    +1 to this. When I upgrade to Windows 10, it must be a clean install.
     
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    Noob question but is it worth upgrading on an older machine? Or does the common adage apply: worth waiting till it's stable, drivers released etc?

    My specs are i7-2670m, 16gb ram, 120gb ssd, gtx 570m
     
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    Maybe in the past. Windows 10 is not an official version. It's just Windows, meaning they will be continuously releasing updates, not just security fixes. So... I don't think it matters when you install it as there will always be a continuous stream of updates from this point forward.

    You're not paying for an OS or software from Microsoft any more. You're paying for a service, aka Windows and Office 360.
     
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    Edit: Nevermind.
     
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    still can't get the little icon in the taskbar to show even though i have all the updates installed....is it possible that it's because the install was quite recent?
     
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    Do you have IE11 installed?
     
  49. Rodster

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    IIRC Windows 10 goes live on the 29th so that's probably why it booted into Windows 8.1
     
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    This happened to me, uninstalled it and swtiched to Razer Surround, which doesn't care what Realtek driver you're using.
     
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