Windows 10

That was my thought. Didn't see what the fuss was. I have OneDrive and Cortana disabled.

 

Thank you for that additional info, now I feel ok / better again, about staying with Windows 10 .

All I thought, was, that if MS already gets the rights to do this via the EULA, what should make them not think "yes, let's exploit our users data, and sell it to the firms of the sotware they use, to let them check if those are legit or not" or similar . If a government has those rights, it's questionable, but acceptable, as they rely very heavy restrictions, but a normal firm, one making money, should never be allowed something like this, no matter what the circumstances are. The allurement of transfering all those data into additional $ is just too great. This is the same reason, why teachers were / are civil servants in germany, to give them the possibilites to be safe from all sorts of bribes, like "I give you xx$, you give my daughter a x in the test" .
Seriously, answer to me, why should Microsoft not sell all that data, if a firm offers some millions of $ for it? Because MS is good *lol, sry* ^^ . Because it's wrong 'lol, sry" ^^ . Because they have high ethical standards and want to treat their customers with care? *sry, I'll stop* ^^ . A state or a government has an easier time on such a situation, because they get their money from taxes, and they get a lot of money and could never handle the shame if someone found out, that they sold the privacy of their citizens.

 

Well, you have no guarantee that Microsoft doesn´t do something fishy. But thats also true for older Windows systems - a minimal level of trust is needed if you want to be their customer (or better, if you want to use a products made by someone else in general). Because they could have screwed you over with Windows 7 or 8.1 long time ago, if they really wanted to.

Other than Google for example, Microsoft never made most of its money selling customer data for ads. That being said, as a US company, they will have to hand out user data to the US government, if the government demands it. Unfortunately, there is no technical solution around the power of the government.

 

Famous last words.

 

I've read articles, that claim that Microsoft is just jumping onto the Google / iOS train, only with a delay of 10y . Otoh, Google had some impressive cases, where they fought for the privacy rights of their customers, and refused to hand out data. Personally, I trust Google a lot more, than I trust Microsoft, tbh. though, no firm trying to achieve world power is actually trustable or good.

 

Well that's just great. So my guess you are working on a new thread as we speak

Oh I think there is. They took it a few steps farther than them. Read any of our threads about this..you will see

Sorry to make it hard but people need to know what M$ is up to

 

Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10576 is available now on Fast Ring

th2_release Professional 10576.

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...ncing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10576/

 

Thankfully I will be well on my way with a road trip from NJ to FL at that time.

 

Microsoft continues with their ****. Microsoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it
Pathetic. Try everything now. Microsoft offers amnesty of sorts to pirates of older Windows software

 

The beauty of it all is that Microsoft has finally made a "pirate proof" OS.

 

The chinese will find a way...

 

To change that, MS created w10. "Our best hoover Windows ever"

 

Actually the ironic part of this is that to prevent piracy they just give The operating system away, then reverse the piracy issue by pirating the consumers.

 

I'm amused by all the Oh Noes Skyne W10. My next phone will likely be the Lumia 950 XL. Still on the offense between Nexus 6P and the 950 XL.
- Lack of adblock for IE on W10 Phone is the only reason why I'm hesitant.

Good part there is a host mod option with an SD card, so Lumia 950 XL here I come... maybe.

 

I was going to hold onto my phone for a while but an unlocked 6P sounds sweet.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2999...windows-10-and-youll-like-it.html#tk.nl_today

"You will be a member of the party, and you will like it" says MS new CEO (picture) lol

 

Some good news! MS will maybe try to think straight again and adjust :O)

"far from great news for Microsoft as Windows 10’s growth once again slowed"

http://betanews.com/2015/11/01/wind...-windows-7-and-8-x-users-reluctant-to-switch/

 

This goes to show you that they just don't get it. They MUST do something about there privacy policy...period. Christmas is just around the corner and I can almost guess that computer sales is going to drop and when companies like Dell or Acer sees there profits sink maybe something will change. They maybe big companies but that just means when they fall they fall hard. They all have shareholders and some of them are just as big as M$ and they don't like losing money. Sooner or later something will happen. The question is when.

 

"At home Microsoft feared w7\w8 subversion. Redmond revived the House Committee on un-Microsoftly activities"

1:20 >
Are you using windows 7, or have you ever used windows 7 ?
The question is: have you ever declined an upgrade to windows 10 ?
lol

 

@Mr. Fox @TANWare @toughasnails

Micro$h4ft missing the deadline for their first major update to Windows 10 which was supposed to be released on the 2nd of November :

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-fall-update-could-launch-november-10th

Classical Micro$h4ft Swiss cheese Windows 10 is a BETA OS anyway

 

November 2nd was a date that was rumored as the potential date of release.

Microsoft never announced any deadline for Threshold Release 2...so they are not missing anything.

 

The privacy policy and automatic updates really are issues. I know several people who have stuck with Windows 7 specifically due to one or both of those - and sometimes I hadn't even discussed those topics with them before they brought it up as the reason they were sticking with 7. Essentially, it boils down to not really having any must-have feature, while also providing some good reasons not to upgrade. By contrast, while Apple doesn't always have a must-have feature in their new OS versions, they generally do a decent job of not providing major reasons to not upgrade. When those have existed, they've largely been technical (such as Rosetta support being removed in 10.8).

 

Windows 10 works great on my Win8.1 10.1" Tablet it only has 2gb of memory, it runs smoother/faster and i am getting another hour of battery life, O&O has been installed of coarse.

John

 

Unless they are revamping privacy issues and the forced hardware upgrades there is nothing here for me.

 

I agree with you on that. I will be staying with W7 until then.

 

Insider Preview TH2 build 10586 is now available Fast Ring

This Insider build leaves NO watermark in the lower right corner of the screen above the clock

This is probably the build that will be released next Tuesday,aka Patch Tuesday,as an update to Windows 10 RTM build 10240

 

From Microsoft:

Today we are releasing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10586 to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring. This build is really focused on bug fixes and general improvements. We’ve been loving this build in our internal rings as it is very fast and smooth, and makes a great daily driver.

Here are some things we have fixed:

The issue where any audio playing (like music from Groove, or videos from the Movies & TV app) gets reduced by 75% for a period of time after a notification pops up from Action Center is fixed.
Pressing the power button on your Surface Pro 3 should put your Surface Pro 3 to sleep instead of shutting it down.

We fixed an issue reported by Windows Insiders where a disksnapshot.exe command prompt window would flash randomly.

Windows should now remember your previous login type. For example, if you log in with a PIN – it will prompt you for a PIN next time instead of another type.

We fixed an issue where Tab previews in Microsoft Edge were appearing as black if the page was not scrolled to the top, and web note clippings were also appearing as black.

Small form-factor devices, like the Dell Venue 8 Pro, that boot with rotation or virtual mode screen size set larger than the physical screen size should no longer experience a bluescreen on upgrade.

Apps and games should download from the Store more reliably.
Known issues:

After upgrading from one Windows 10 Insider Preview build to another Insider Preview build, Skype messages and contacts will disappear from the Messaging + Skype app. You can get Skype messages and contacts back by navigating to “C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Messaging_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache” in File Explorer and deleting or renaming the “PrivateTransportId” file. After deleting or renaming that file, go to the Skype video app and sign out of Skype and sign back in

The Insider Hub might be gone after upgrading to this build. You can get Insider Hub back by going to Settings > System > Apps & features and clicking “Mange optional features”, choosing “Add a feature” and selecting Insider Hub.

 

Nothing of any use to me there. guess it is just more of the same.

 

OK deleted some posts, play nice......

 

If they fix the bug where even if a user selects the option to "never install drivers from Windows Updates" to make it actually work, this would be one of the best OSes to me, aside from the telemetry which we all know how to deal with by now.

 

Input indicator doesn't appear in Taskbar, I can turn them on in settings but when I reboot it turns itself Off.

 

My wife's Dell Vostro 5470 just updated automatically to Windows 10 Build 10586

 

Nothing here in the UK for mine yet! Will edit this post when I get the update.

 

I got it also after doing an update check. Gonna restart later for the process to start

 

I thought this is just an update, man this is like a full OS reinstallation! Just like Win 8 to 8.1

 

Well I did it, couse my wife restarted the laptop to check something, whatever, I got over it.
But what I'm trying to say is that it took about 15 minutes to upgrade and yes, it felt like a full upgrade.
You do get the option to revert to previous version.
Also, if there are people like myself, who run modded nvidia drivers, you will have to reinstall after the update, since it will break the drivers.I did not have the chance to check anything else, but I'm sure there are plenty of stuff to notice. It broke my chrome and hangouts icons pinned to start. They are both black now

Media creation tool has been updated to latest version also.

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-introduces-speed-shift-technology/

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

3% is impressive for free but the other is statistically insignificant. These are synthetics as well so pretty useless and this seems more useful to a battery run system rather than an DTR laptop like I usually use. I can see where this might be useful to a consumption tablet down the line but W10 is not my primary choice there.

 

Well, it's 3% from here, 1% from there, another percent from some other place, and in small steps we get better overall experience.
Just my 2 cents

 

problem is 3% in one bench never equates to 3% real world and in everything. Fact is I have seen where real world performance can take a hit where a tuned benchmark showed improvements. As I said this probably, if at all, will be a boon for systems running on battery where a step down CPU may be able handle the same tasks.

 

Well I updated to the latest build of Windows 10 by using the Media Creation tool (iso) rather than wait for Windows Update to trigger. Went fairly smoothly, took a long time to do the update like the others have mentioned. One problem has cropped up with the latest build for me: Boot time is randomly very slow - it either boots in 15 secs to desktop or 45 secs to desktop, normally it's slow though. I've checked the Windows Performance Boot Logs and it is MainPathBootTime that is the culprit. MainPathBootTime lasts for 30secs longer during slow boot - that parameter measures the length of time between user password entering & appearance of the desktop. According to the Event Logs there is no application that is slowing down the boot process. I've verified the installation by doing a sfc /scannow & found no errors. I've also tried enabling & disabling Fast Start option in the OS (no difference). I've also tried delaying the loading of startup items in the Task Scheduler (Throttlestop and a Dolby application associated with USB sound card). Anyone have any ideas on how to fix the sporadic slow boot time?

Apart from that the new update is fine performance wise.

 

Best. Thing. Ever.

 

still holding off on this OS...with all the mandatory updates and all.

 

I found out what specifically is causing the sporadic long boot times: BootExplorerInitTime. I believe that to be the time it takes to load up Explorer.exe - it's taking about 38 secs to load up that - when boot times are good then this part only take a few seconds. Anyone got any ideas on how I can fix this issue? I've googled it but didn't come up with much.

EDIT: I tried creating another local user account & rebooting with that account & boot time was really fast, about 15secs. Any ideas on how to get my other account booting like it used to - about 15 secs? (This is only a problem since directly after the Windows 10 Update a couple of days ago)

EDIT#2: Anyone know of an efficient way of cloning settings & content from one user profile to another in Windows 10? I could use that as a means of solving my slow startup problem - create a new account, migrate settings from my old account to new account, then delete old account.

EDIT#3: Slow startup problem wasn't solved by creating a new account because as soon as the original account was deleted then the slowdowns occurred again. I tried reinstalling Windows clean, and boot up was very fast, but then after installing my programs it became slow again. Thing is I then tried uninstalling any of the programs that were installed since the last known good fast boot, and it still boots slowly. I've concluded that it's not any of my programs causing slowdowns in boot up because uninstallation doesn't help, and also because boot logs show no programs slowing down the bootup process. BootExplorerInitTime is still the culprit, and I think it's just a bug in the latest build in relation to my system - it seems to me that the more times the PC is restarted the more often the slow boots occur. On a fresh installation boot times are 15secs, then sporadically restarts will be 45secs, then after enough restarts then boot times are always 45 secs. BootExplorerInitTime is about 35secs in the case of the slow boots - all of that extra 30secs accounted for by that. I'm thinking that Microsoft need to offer a patch that irons out this problem, although I don't see many or any people with the same issue!

I've posted on Microsoft forums about this issue in a hope to bring the issue to attention with Microsoft, and maybe to get some help:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-7dd0-4d69-9d7e-fac72125e464?tm=1447592740436

 

Looks like it was Avira Free Antivirus causing the longer boot times since the latest update to Windows. Microsoft community techs helped me find out by analysing boot trace logs. I've done 10 restarts so far with Avira uninstalled & boot time is all in the 13-15 sec range. Hopefully Avira or Microsoft will address this issue because I do like Avira Antivirus - for the time being I'm using Windows Defender to be 100% sure that the cause of the slow boots was Avira, and I may switch back to Avira anyway.

EDIT: I switched back to Avira, I'd rather have a 30 sec longer boot time but greater protection from malware & viruses (no other performance issues). I hope they patch Avira to improve compatibility with the Threshold 2 Windows Update. If the longer boot time really starts ticking me off then I'll research other free antivirus!

EDIT#2: I've reported the issue to Avira techs - along with a link to the microsoft thread, hopefully Avira will release a patch!
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...o/1352be46-7dd0-4d69-9d7e-fac72125e464?page=1

 

I had a BSOD among the test i ran on my computer, I ran the built in Windows Memory tester, the test ran fine, but when it booted into Windows, I have an memory icon on my taskbar, but when it click on it it does nothing, left or right click, fast slow, nothing happens, it`s been on my taskbar for two days.

John.

 

More messup: "Microsoft has removed the just-released November update"
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-yanks-latest-windows-10-release-from-its-download-server/

btw, got 10586.11 from MediaCreationTool on my test-laptop, installed and behaving ok.

 

Back to Windows 8.1 Pro for me and i'm waiting for Linux Mint 18 which is supposed to be a major update to the kernal and OS. I was running Windows 10 E and even that will download drivers and updates if you're not paying attention regardless if you're using O&O Shutup 10. On my initial install I had installed current nVidia drivers. A month and half later MS wants to install the newer driver. System was working OK. So to shutup the update client, I manually installed the newer video drivers (I only install the video driver, MS installs everything including Nvidia utilities) and the system bombed. I had to uninstall the video drivers and install the newer drivers. What a mess, I went back to W8.1 Pro.

 

Looks like 50% of enterprises could be running Windows 10 by early 2017 according to predictions by Gartner (an information technology research and advisory company):
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gartne...-to-Windows-10-OS-by-businesses.154601.0.html

Do you reckon this is likely? Any IT professionals in the business, what do you think, will your company be upgrading & do you agree with the decision?


EDIT (in relation to a post a couple of ones above this one): it's possible that build 10586 was removed from the media creation tool due to problems with Bitlocker support (credit goes to someone on laptopvideo2go who spotted this report):
https://social.technet.microsoft.co...yption-cannot-be-activated-on-win10-105861511

 

NO , It will be more like 2020 when support stops for W7 maybe. As I said before too many bugs in W10. They have got a long ways to go before company's take the chance. The OS might be free but the cost of retraining workers comes with a very high price not counting downtime that comes with it. When a company has downtime nothing goes out to there customers and I can tell you first hand if you can't deliver they will find someone else that can. Everyone has shareholders and they only understand one thing, making $$$$$.