Windows 10

The company you work for won't be upgrading then?

 

Over the last 18 months, my department has been upgrading - to Macs.

 

At this time I can't see it. Our customers are #1 priority and we must keep a steady supply chain to them. We just did a major upgrade to our network at all our plants across Canada / USA which came with much downtime. That upgrade cost millions to setup and get running to where we are now. To think that just because M$ came out with a new OS that we should jump on it..... not . W10 is only a few months old so give it a few years and let's see what happens then .
No one in the "IT world" would ever upgrade there company's OS this soon with an unproven W10. It's just too big of a gamble.

 

Fair enough, although it is interesting that Gartner thinks that uptake will be fast & large by enterprises - you'd think they might have surveyed some companies to come to that conclusion rather than guessing, I don't know what methods they used to come to their conclusions.

 

I would like to know how they figure this too. Something I would like to know is how many W10 users have switched back to there old OS after testing it.

 

More like this guy? LOL http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/g73jh-windows-10-freezing.779600/page-7#post-10144913 Nice.

 

Windows 10’s broken fall update removes user-installed applications without asking first
By Joel Hruska on November 25, 2015 at 7:30 am
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...r-installed-applications-without-asking-first

" Reddit user ShotgunPanda reports that:
I booted up my PC today and found message from Win10 saying that CPU-Z is no longer compatible with this version of Windows and decides on its own to remove the program from user space along with other programs that Microsoft doesn’t like and starts replacing them with their own Windows apps. Its even removed AMD Catalyst Control Centre and installed its own Win10 drivers."

One of Satya Nadella's key changes at Microsoft could be backfiring
http://www.businessinsider.com/one-of-satya-nadellas-main-changes-could-be-backfiring-2015-11

"Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella's decision to change the way the company builds and tests software could be backfiring, according to Petri...
...For example the first big update to Windows 10, which was released earlier this month, is filled with bugs that should not be present, and this is because of the new system..."

 

" could be backfiring..." LOL

 

I just ordered a new laptop for my daughter (for college; she needs a sturdy engineering workstation, picked a Dell Precision 5510 for that reason). It's ordered as a straight Windows 7 machine, of course. Enough said.

 

So let me get this straight. Nadella cuts testers at the same time they release a new OS that decides what drivers and apparently apps your machine should and can have installed? I see high priced college degrees and $$$ in the bank doesn't mean squat when it comes to common sense. I haven't seen anything change for the better since Ballmer left, if anything it's worse. Ballmer was an idiot but at least he was entertaining in a Donald Trump sort of way.

 

errr... i completed the install with a local account and now i can't change it to my MS account

 

I'm sure there's a way to do that in just the normal Windows menus - assuming you've not already tried that.

 

my local account is called localuser while my ms account is my email. when i try to make a task it just shows as localuser and i can't change the user.

 

Ah, maybe I'm not understanding you, but in my local account I can turn in it into a Microsoft account by going to: Settings -> Accounts -> then clicking on 'Sign in with Microsoft Account instead'

 

Don't let the 'Grinches' put you off Windows 10

Very good article about all the lies flying around about Windows 10.

 

Good grief, that ZDNet article reads like a paid advertisement from Microsoft and rubber stamped with the approval of Satya Nadella.

 

so far win 10 is working ok. still get my screen flash on and off at boot up but once it gets in: its in. will keep testing.

 

Yeah, right. Thats why it says at the end:

"If you're a diehard Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 faithful then just stick with what you've got. Support-wise you're good until January 2020 and January 2023 respectively, which gives you plenty of time to find the perfect Linux distro to upgrade to."​

 

Some (good) news... ;O) Maybe Spysoft will think about some changes.

"Losing Momentum"
https://www.infopackets.com/news/9732/report-windows-10-uptake-losing-momentum

"snail's pace"
http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-continues-to-crawl-up-desktop-os-market/

And add the miserable results in the phone dept.

 

Well they got the last part
right for sure

 

He's bought and paid by the Redmond mafia. I cant see any other solution.

 

The problem is FUD. While there are many valid concerns there are some out there without merit. The pushers of W10 will just push the FUD items as incorrect so it must be a great OS. This is why we must be very careful in what we select as issues for both the OS and updates.

Edit; one last thing the author does not mention is that with the systems purchased with W10 99.9% of users are paying the M$ tax before installing Linux or otherwise!

 

I think some of the negativity about privacy is over-hyped too. Upgrading to Windows 10 has caused some users problems though - the EDID screen corruption of some Alienware systems for example. I'm happy with the OS though.

 

and why testing for me is important.

 

Privacy is not over-hyped. If you consider the data usage today then maybe yes, but the problem is down the line and the EULA.It would be like saying to the company you work for; "I know you will only use this if you feel like I may be doing something wrong, so here is a signed power of attorney just in case you need it"!

 

they say it's just telemetry data and how people navigate the OS and i think either people got worked up too much or there's more too it!

 

Any source to cite here?


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I don't get it. I see absolutely ZERO reason for anyone to upgrade to Windows 10 from 7 or 8.1. None. Notta. Zippo. It offers nothing. Fine, put it on new systems, but don't give us the song and dance (I'm speaking out loud to Microshaft) that it's the best OS ever. Upgrade now now now!

 

i sacrificed my win 7 key to the win 10 gods so that my win 8.1 key could be spared...and mainly because win 7 wouldn't work with my current configuration so it had to go!

 

From what MS says, that key is still alive, and you can use it to roll back at any time - when you can get it to work on that hardware

IDK if you can use that key in a VM on that same system, or if it precludes simultaneous use - you could tell MS you are dual booting due to Win 10 issues...

 

there's no way to get it to work with a 980m and a 120hz panel successfully.

 

Right now the program is a free upgrade to W10. This is not free to new systems, this is why there is no discount for ordering with W10 over others and why there are downgrade rights. So a new system with M$ installed will have paid them for the OEM version.

 

That's too bad... did you use a new Win 7 key for it?; that's why you refer to it as burning it?

If you can use the Win 7 key in a VM hosted on Windows 10, at least you can get some use out of it.

 

@TANWare

While configuring new systems recently, configuring with no OS saves $88 - that must be the OEM Windows 10 cost.

But, not all configuration tools let you drop the OS, you need to have one selected to build.

 

it was a key that came with the computer so it was not new but just unused.

 

Did you already find/try this?:

Windows 7 preventing highest monitor refresh rates (post 14)
" Follow these instructions at your own risk.
Follow them _exactly_ and you should expose refresh rates above the standard ones."
http://forums.steampowered.com/foru...075a95ecbfd3b36fb53ff&p=10626223&postcount=14

The last post mentions qres , not sure if that forces existing or allows custom modes
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qres/

 

with a 980M you can only use it with optimus mode on win 7 because of the crappy UEFI implementation. Since I am using a 120hz panel, which bypasses the intel GPU completely, it would make it hard to use win 7 since you need UEFI to get it running and hence why i was using 8.1 for the most part.

 

Well, 8.1 is currently better than Windows 10

Too bad about the Win 7 UEFI Optimus conundrum...

 

not by much really.

 

Windows 8.1 is better, as in currently unchanging feature / performance wise => stable.

The next Windows 10 update / "TH2" / "RedStone" / driver upgrade can change moment to moment stability, and render Windows 10 as a new unknown.

Windows 8.1 is out the other side of that cycle already. Windows 8.1 was in this uncertain / not complete state for first 6-9 months of it's release too, a shorter time than previous OS releases.

Windows 8 was worse, as was Vista, and Windows 10 seems to be following a longer "development" settling / stabilizing cycle as well.

 

i'll deal with it when it comes.

so far there's no major issues that need to be resolved but i am looking out for any.

 

asking cortana to make out with you and the response is hilarious!

 

Came across this on tenforums
lol+++

 

My guess here is we should have all seen this coming; M$ and its founder is on a tare. While these can be considered off topic it just goes to show the arrogance. Let's place birth control so it can eventually be remotely controlled by outside forces. Can anyone say a foot in the doorway?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/bill-gates-100-million-database-to-track-students/

http://www.naturalnews.com/036171_Bill_Gates_bracelets_monitoring.html

http://gizmodo.com/bill-gates-wants-to-turn-your-birth-control-on-with-a-r-1601705087

 

I've actually been playing with Windows 10 Pro for the past week or so, and once you disable all the privacy-invading junk, it's not a terrible operating system. Now it's nowhere near the same ballpark as Windows 7, but I think I might actually prefer it to 8.1. I haven't decided if I'll upgrade my Yoga 2 Pro since scaling is no better than on 8.1, but at the 1080p resolution where I'm using my Zotac Zbox, well, let's just say I've been more pleasantly surprised than not.

 

For a new machine, sure go with Win 10. But I see zero reason to upgrade from any existing OS to 10. And if MS would get their heads out of their collective asses and removed that telemetry snooping crap and auto updates, most would have little to no concern. But as it stands, I'm not jumping through hoops to try to stay on top of plugging W10's privacy holes all the time.

 

Problem is a lot of those privacy issues are making their way to older Windows versions, too. In a sense, there might be more to do in 7/8.1 because you may need to actually look at individual updates and potentially research what they do. In W10, I just run O&O Shutup10 and it does all the work for me.



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Is O&O Shutup10 that complete? I thought there was a lot more under the hood that needed to be done. Looking at Matrix Leader's install guide especially. Lots of work for even a clean install, and chance for things to be missed.

 

I looked through that clean install guide, and the presentation makes it look like you need to do a lot more than what is, IMO, really necessary. That being said, I'm not going to rush out and put W10 on the other computers in mine and my parents' households. Their Windows 8.1 installations are far from broken, and I intend to keep them that way.

 

@Mr. Fox @toughasnails

Just when we thought things couldn't get any worse....

Windows 10’s next major update will let Cortana float around your PC