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    Windows 10

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by WhatsThePoint, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. pete962

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    Common Phoenix, stop teasing us, is it good, bad or don't know yet?
    or we should just assume nothing good automatically?
     
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    Even more telemetry? New hidden Telemetry will scan and deliver all information to Micro$oft first, then NSA. Everything of your private photos / all of your files in your computer. Once all this is uploaded, will ALL files be analyzed by NSA and M$. This is called security. But not for you and your pc. HaHa
    We haven't seen all crazy mess that MicroSoft will push out of new telemetry technology. We have only seen the start.
     
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    MS will announce tomorrow that for Win users protection it will restrict access to all system folders and some crucial system settings. All direct copying of any files between devices is strictly forbiden unless rerouted through MS cloud drive or itunes. Any attempts at gaining root access will make your device inoperable. Any repairs or replacement of security components, like fingerprint reader will brick your device unless done by authorized MS center. It will also encrypt your device and then, as a publicity stunt it will untruthfully claim that it will not be able to decrypt the device even if requested by government. No , I'm just kidding that could never happen for real.
     
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    You joke about that.

    But in reality, people will pay for that "feature".
     
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    That's a good one....that will be in Windows 11 :rolleyes:
     
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    Most of the people I know are using Win10 Home on their machines and don't know jack about this..this is the strength of the M$, weakening that would shatter this stupid right granting EULA of this Win10 and the OS.

    I'm rooting for Vulkan, once that gets past DX11 ,12 the timebomb for these Win10 spyware editions starts ticking and B00M goes M$ with their proprietary garbage.
     
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    The average user is stuck on: Oh win 10 is much better than 7 and 8.1 because it makes their pc run faster and gain some FPS in games and also its free and most of them gave in into upgrading by false advertising and scare tactics. Also the average user couldnt care less if MS is spying on them as long Win 10 runs better on their PC than their old OS did.
     
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    The average user is also an absolute retard when it comes to knowing anything about anything about their computer. My friends all use it because it's cool, and we all love it. I don't see what the problem is. Microsoft would never do anything bad. And, it has apps, just like my phone. Plus, my Facebook page loads really fast now and everything looks so pretty. The colors remind me of cotton candy and bubble gum, and those are my favoritest things in the whole world.

    As more people switch to Windows 10 it simply highlights the superiority of the elitists that refuse to bow down and worship at the Micro$loth porcelain throne. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
     
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    @Mr. Fox you nailed it there. It looks cool o_O
     
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    Actually this was posted before in other form, but this is something new and veryM$ish, I cannot just understand what's with this "18 month propaganda" with the Skylake and Windows...Isn't the Skylake machines running Win7,8.1 flawlessly, what an extremely dumb PR feat.
    http://arstechnica.com/information-...ke-and-you-wont-have-to-upgrade-in-18-months/
    First they go after Win7 with the xHCI to EHCI , causing Skylake + win7 painful and now this.

    A simple service pack would make Win7 brand spanking new, Atleast they should make the Win10 de-bloated version with the Aero as an option for maximum performance and zero intrusion the CEO must be plain dumb imo (Only option is using the LTSB WinX afaik), DT OS optimized for the battery life ROFL this battery thing is getting beyond control...first the OS, GPUs , BGA & drivers what not all toned down kiddocrap :mad:

    On the other side Intel reduced the thickness of this Skylake silicon compared against older platforms which caused some CPUs to bend HaHa. Seems like each and every company is flooding with some "low end B$" with forced adaptation this Win10 upgrade is the most intrusive thing ever in this digital age, I guess nGreedia backed their GeForcedExperience slime driver implementation...maybe that's a good sign ?
     
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    Anybody else having problem with the taskbar not auto-hiding, It`s been bugging me for months, even after a clean install it still happens, sometimes i can just click on the taskbar icons and then suddenly the taskbar will hide, but lately even this is not working, and i am forced to use taskmanger to restart windows explorer app for a temporary fix.

    John.
     
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    Only if a notification is preventing the taskbar from auto-hiding, but otherwise hides ok on my system. Re hiding the taskbar, there is a bug where when combined with Avira Antivirus that strangely results in slow boots - solved by either un-hiding the taskbar or uninstalling Avira, I reported this to both Avira & Microsoft in their forums.
     
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    I have Avast anti-virus.

    John.
     
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    Does anyone know how to stop the damned Windows maintenance that start every time, After a little while without touching your mouse? This was possible in Win 8.1 but do not think I've seen a way to do this in Win X Pro. This Os came with my new laptop so I have to try it out first. It's hard to start to try out this again. Damn I buy a new laptop, LOL
    Thanks
     
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    What new laptop have you bought Papusan? Isn't the Windows Maintenance there to keep things running smoothly, and if you're not using your PC at the time it's not gonna reduce performance, and I would imagine that if you started using it again then it would stop?
     
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    Hi. Killer-Edition aka Sky X9E :p
    I can manage that my beast can run max performance without the trash from Redmond. I hate this Win maintenance. If you want run an benchmark and you don't touch the mouse, the crippled maintenance start running(the junk os can't understand that hardware work full speed even if you don't touch the mouse, Crazy) This is totally junk from the morons aka Os engineers from Redmond. In Win 8.1 you could manage this junk to not start when you crunch numbers... I will manage the maintenance of my computer self. Not this force on you garbage. This new crap is crazy. I hate this idea that Micro$uckers know everything best by themselves. Any idea to stop this ****?
     
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    Ah, that's a real nice laptop, a beast indeed - congrats! I've not noticed any maintenance tasks running during any benchmarks I've been doing, only once in a blue moon have I seen a benchmark score lower than it normally was, that was a Physics score - maybe that was when some Maintenance was running, but on my system that kind of disruption hardly ever happens.
     
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    Thanks :)
    Have not experienced this now, but I've seen this garbage start when I had Win 10 in my Aw17 before I jumped the ship. Windows maintenance is strongly linked to telemetry. That's why Microsoft want that this garbage shall run often as possible. Is absolutely sure telemetry is the main reason the morons at Redmond designed the Os so you can't stop the trash from running. This is not acceptable.
    I have paid for my computer and the operative system. Not the morons. They should pay me because I use their trash aka malware. A lot of cash...
     
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    Full-Screen Ads Showing up in Windows 10

     
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    Ad-ware, Spyware, Crippleware what not, and M$ wants this to happen.... :rolleyes:
     
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    ... and now Tenware.
     
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    This windows 10 is really starting to piss me off. The asus laptop we use at our non-profit to keep accounting info on "somehow" got upgraded to windows 10. The guy who had it said he didn't upgrade it, so most likely win10 got pushed via some recommended update. Now the laptop won't even boot to desktop, it just boots to a black screen with cursor. Googling that problem just comes up with tons of the same problem for other people. I didn't even know it was running windows 10 until it finally booted into the recovery environment where it said win10. the only thing I can do is win-p key to access extended screens which doesn't do anything even with an external monitor attached. Apparently you can break the boot cycle by interrupting bootup 3 times which will put you into the recovery environment. Now I gotta spend the entire weekend trying to remove this win10 virus.

    /rant.
     
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    It's true that the Windows 10 upgrade process doesn't always go smoothly, but as far as I'm aware a Windows 7 or 8 device won't update automatically to Windows 10 - it will download the update automatically, but then I'm quite sure it requires user intervention to accept the prompted upgrade procedure. When I first used the upgrade process to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 the procedure didn't work - I got a black screen on boot with the ability only to access the Task Manager by keyboard shortcuts, nothing else was appearing. I managed to install Windows 10 sucessfully by doing a clean install rather than an upgrade, by using the bootable USB download/procedure on the Microsoft website. Next time you could use a free program called Macrium Reflect to take system images of your boot drive every so often, so that a recovery from problems like you're experiencing would take you about 10mins (just need an external USB hard drive to save the image & a USB stick which has been turned into a 'Recovery USB Stick' by Macrium Reflect).
     
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    The one system on which I installed Win10 for the purpose of testing has shown no problems whatsoever. The issues of privacy are still a question but performance wise it has been fine. I don't bother with modified drivers and NVIDIA's drivers that come through Windows update have been solid so far. I've been using that system quite a lot lately and haven't been given cause to complain. In fairness, I don't sign in with an MS account, use the Windows Store or any of the Modern Apps and have OOSU10 installed to get rid of Cortana etc... More because I just don't need it and prefer what I am used to, rather than anything else. As far as I'm concerned, once the privacy question is cleared up, I'll happily upgrade to 10 on all of my systems. Although in the interest of full disclosure, I have the means to revert those systems back to 7 or 8.1 should anything serious be revealed about Win10 and since I fairly regularly do a fresh Windows install, it won't be too much effort to reinstall a previous OS.
     
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    upload_2016-2-28_10-0-55.png
    Damn the ****ing morons at Micro$uck :mad: Telemetry must be the main reason why this **** can't be disabled. Windows maintenance isn't created to give the system better performance. Only for spy box.
    http://www.technorms.com/46366/using-automatic-maintenance-in-windows-10

    https://social.technet.microsoft.co...-by-a-hidden-task?forum=WinPreview2014General
     
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    I did what the following guide below suggests and set it to automatically perform maintenance at 4am since I'm never on my system that late or early and if I am - I'll be in no mood to allow my system to idle.

    http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3090-automatic-maintenance-change-settings-windows-10-a.html

    Windows 10 doesn't allow you to completely turn it off but setting it from automatic to a manually defined, anti-social time seems to work. I just let my system idle for about 25 minutes and kept an eye on CPU usage and tasks - no sign of automatic maintenance. Can't really give it more time since I have to at least look like I'm working - but it used to start within 5 minutes before so the principal should be sound. Using Windows 10, clean install and with the latest updates installed - for reference.

    I'm inclined to think it's more a case of MS ensuring maintenance tasks can't be disabled (As you could in Win8) than any telemetry related issue. Probably the same reason they're pushing updates - since a sizable number of people almost never did any updates and then had subsequent issues. I don't know to what extent (In practice) not updating would cause stability or security (I'd guess at least some consequence) so there's some logic to explain it. Although it could be a direct NSA data-mining and data stealing task - I suppose you never know for 100%.
     
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    Windows maintenance = Make ready a lot of telemetry for sending to NSA and Microsoft, Ha Ha.
    I have Win7 service pack 1 + 8.1 and a very few updates. Win update is always deactivated. Never experienced any problems. Maybe therefore I never have had problems with my computer... But I have experienced other have a lot of problems after some Win updates :p
     
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    My Windows 10 system runs from a 60GB SSD and I noticed that it had reduced in space by about 8GB. Not a huge deal but I hadn't downloaded or added any large files so this reduction seemed odd.

    Turns out it is the folder where Windows updates are downloaded to, prior to being installed. Located in: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Downloads

    In Windows 8.1 and 7, you could do a disk cleanup and remove all files in there that way. Perhaps it's just my install but it doesn't seem to work with Win10 - it just doesn't find anything to remove. I manually removed all of the contents of that folder and restarted - seems to have worked fine. Windows update is happy and everything seems ok... So far, anyway.
     
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    Disk Cleanup -> Clean System Files button -> then I think you can select an option to remove old Windows updates.
     
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    That's not enough unfortunately. After doign this, PatchCleaner still removed over 10 GBs of old files from my system partition.
     
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    Yes, this worked with Windows 8.1 and 7 but it doesn't appear in Windows 10... At least for me. Hence this ghetto approach.
     
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    Just had a bsod in Win10 x64 "bad pool header" i replaced my Intel graphics driver last night for the latest, but as usual i have to use the "have disk method" to install it as Intel want me to only use my manufactures graphics driver and that is years old.

    John.
     
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    Just downloaded the latest ISO which includes the February updates from MSDN 10586.103

    en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_feb_2016_x64_dvd_8379634.iso

    Hash Check vs MSDN Download = https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/su...Languages=en&PageSize=10&PageIndex=0&FileId=0

    Hash.png

    How to burn the ISO to a flash disk, RUFUS Settings, after selecting the ISO, make sure the settings are EXACTLY as below:

    Rufus for UEFI.png

    To make the Windows setup give you the option to install Core or PRO during installation regardless of the key entered or even if you skip the product key insertion, just copy the eif.cg file into the sources folder on the USB Flash Disk
     
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    just tried it, working perfectly
     
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    ok try the main page, then download the same ISO: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/AjYy/YZSPG1EVD/
     
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    Yeah, that works.

    Thanks

    John.
     
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    Disable All Telemetry... Don't be the Rhino :)
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    Windows "System and compressed memory" takes up too much of CPU seems like the Runfullmemdiagnostic runs always and ruins the machine add the pagefiling massive size to it too, eating up disk space. Disabling the memdiagnostic doesn't help either, optimizing CPU performance plus disabling pagefiling could have drastic effects over some apps, welp what a mess...

    This version of windows is by far the worst and most intrusive OS ever with disgusting looks, and a massive downgrade to the older Win7 and 8.1...

    The PC's dark days have begun....


    EDIT : Apart from the "Windows update" being depreciated, personalization panel (still a standalone app exists from winaero) to settings are there any others which were moved from CP to the settings ?
     
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    The control panel is being depreciated in favor for the settings.

    Found this out the hard way on some settings i was testing wouldn't hold their value.
    Turns out, the graphic part degraded to a read only placeholder
     
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    I don't know why It is happening !? A massive downgraded cluttered settings from powerful control panel, disaster it is...

    Still LTSB is the best Win10 build so far, unfortunately my system needs TH2 to boot with the maxwell upgrade with newer drivers (else black screen on boot to desktop), LTSB is on TH1, couldn't dare to test...

    DX12 seems more of a gimmick over the DX11 so no need for the Win10 on my machine till then...by the time DX12 becomes popular :rolleyes:(the WDDM 2.0 that M$ made is also a let down neutered path of PC gaming, locking out the user out of his/her machine LOL, console way), the Vulkan will take over the DX11 & 12 then Win10 would fail at that point, just waiting for that day to come, fingers crossed !

    The OS is dying. They are so hell bent on gimping the desktop performance OS to a castrated tablet kids UI.
     
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    I don't have those problems with my Windows 10 setup, I have pagefile disabled too without any issues (haven't been running a pagefile for the last 6 years).

    I hope they allow access to the old Control Panel alongside the new version - the old Control Panel seems faster & more efficient to navigate.
     
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    The Control Panel will be going away in future versions of Windows 10. Having two "control panels" was one of the major criticisms for Windows 8 and Windows 10 till now also.

    The Control Panel is a old component of the system coming from Windows 95 / Windows 2000. Its too inflexible and doesn´t scale, so essentially they have to replace it. Settings App is the replacement, rather then a continuation of the old, cluttered and scattered control panel, Microsoft opted for a "All Settings in one App" solution.
     
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    their Settings have not even half of settings you could do in old CP of already transfered blocks. Unless something changed for the last 4 monthes.
     
  50. Woodking

    Woodking Notebook Evangelist

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    Well said. All M$ needed to do is bring out a SP2 for Win 7 - that could buy them time to get windows 8 done properly and not release software using customers as beta testers. They've lost proper direction.

    This forcing updates to a new version is unacceptable and an abuse of position IMO, oh and their phones are just as bad!
     
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