Windows 11

I am using W11 as a crash test dummy platform with all updates enabled, with no real intention so far of it becoming an OS that I rely on. So far no updates have undone that and I don't think they will. A major version release might require a clean install. Hard to know unless it happens, but given the fact that the Redmond Reprobates have already stated they are going to relax or remove both Secure Boot and TPM requirements, probably not.

I personally consider it a best practice to deny Windows internet access until you have finished setup and installed the drivers you want to use, applied your own tweaks to block what you don't want, etc. Only after crafting it in your image, according to your plan, should you allow an internet connection. People that consider themselves to be tech savvy need to be the god of their PC and stop letting Micro$lop make decisions on their behalf.

Edit:
What do you mean about CPU check? I don't know what you are referring to.
I saw something else you posted. I don't know because I don't own anything affected by that.

 

I fixed their typo. If Micro$lop doesn't recommend it, that it probably the best reason to do it. There is satisfaction in defiance, and what they "recommend" is always based on what is most beneficial to their agenda. They don't give a damn about anyone or anything except themselves.

 

The gotcha: Installing Windows 11 on an unsupported PC disables updates pcworld.com | Aug 28, 2019

Users who try and upgrade their "unsupported" PC to Windows 11 without meeting the necessary hardware requirements won't receive Windows updates

According to Microsoft, running Windows 11 in an unsupported state is not recommended, and Microsoft says it will be appropriate only in certain temporary scenarios. But Microsoft said Friday evening that unsupported PCs running Windows 11 won’t be entitled to receive updates via Windows Update. That means, Microsoft added, that unsupported Windows PCs might not include security and driver updates, either.

It seems they want create security mess we haven't seen before. Why disable updates if they will let people be allowed to install Win 11 on not supported systems? Isn't better security on the web their main goal anymore? Stupidity can't be cured!!!


Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app blogs.windows.com

We did identify a set of PC models that meet the principles while running on Intel 7th Gen processors that we did not originally include in our minimum system requirements. Based on those findings, we have expanded the list of compatible 64-bit processors to include the following:

• Intel® Core™ X-series, Xeon® W-series
• Intel® Core™ 7820HQ (only select devices that shipped with modern drivers based on Declarative, Componentized, Hardware Support Apps (DCH) design principles, including Surface Studio 2)

After carefully analyzing the first generation of AMD Zen processors in partnership with AMD, together we concluded that there are no additions to the supported CPU list.

They have probably problems with their KB. Or they have hired tooo stupid workers.

Microsoft and Asus are creating more confusion about Windows 11 sweclockers.com

Core 7000 processors with HEDT stamp will work with Windows 11, while Asus mentions the new operating system in BIOS updates for Z270 motherboards

Microsoft Expands Windows 11 CPU Compatibility List
tomshardware.com | By Andrew E. Freedman 1 day ago

Some 7th Gen Intel now included, but 1st Gen AMD Ryzen is out.

 

What a joke. I don't doubt MS desire to threaten people by saying they will not receive feature,security, or driver updates if their PC is in the "unsupported category." However, I can't see MS putting themselves in another position where there are enough outraged users that they withdraw this threat as they just did with the threat of not allowing Win 11 to be installed on certain hardware. MS has a history of drawing lines in the sand that end up being moved when enough people complain. No matter what they end up doing, it's still a total PR nightmare when they are trying to create all this hype over Win 11 but then totally taking all the wind out of the sails by tacking on all these ridiculous exceptions and caveats. Just release Win 11 and all feature, security, and driver updates to EVERYONE and simply add a disclaimer that some functions may not work with certain hardware. Done, that's all they needed to do.

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They just hope all the confusing info will push people their way to buy next gen Junkware from themself.

Microsoft is certainly looking to have a busy fall schedule, with the promise of the Surface Pro 8, a radically redesigned Surface Book 4, a Surface Duo 2 and, of course, the release of Windows 11. The next Microsoft Surface event could well be one worth tuning in for.

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/micr...enchmarks-just-tipped-major-performance-boost

 

Why doesn't Microsoft manage to make clear announcements about Windows 11?
good Morning 29 August 2021 9:31

Microsoft always manages to unsettle users. The Redmonders manage to publish vague statements again and again. The current example of this are the announcements for Windows 11.

I already wrote in the comments yesterday that this should be treated with caution. Microsoft only wants to make users feel insecure here. Zac Bowden also commented on Twitter similarly: “The fact that MS doesn't directly say“ no ”when asked about it tells me that it will probably work well and that MS says“ maybe or maybe not ”because the ambiguity is keeping people from upgrading their "unsupported" PCs at all. "

For some, Windows 11 on old hardware and no automatic updates and drivers would be a dream operating system. Tweaks would no longer be necessary and you can decide for yourself when an update or driver is installed. But that will certainly remain a dream. Yep, instead we will get a new nightmare ala Win 10 with all sorts of bugs and a never ending game for us that don't want useless changes.

See also.... My Windows 11 situation (Yep, not mine )

Just want to share some information. M15R1, 8750h + 2070 max-q model from two years ago. With the current build 22000.168 (rumored to be in release preview soon), the Cinebench r23 MT score of my unit drops from 7000 (with undervolting) to 5000 (without undervolting). A quick look at HWInfo, it seems CPU is much hotter even at idle and hits 100C very easily hence the big decrease in performance. GPU wise, due to the heat from CPU, GPU hits 86C quicker. I'd say there is a noticeably drop in framerates in games, especially CPU-heavy ones. Games like Witcher 3 also suffer because GPU hits 86C and lower its frequency. A rollback to Windows 10 makes the score back to 7000.

 

I think they toned down sys. reqmts just not to anger Surface Studio 2 users since MSFT already used older hardware Kabylake when 8th/9th gen were already available to most OEMs.

 

well Asus is "screwed" by MS, even with the slightly toned down W11 sys requirements

 

Yep, and they have problem to Stop.

NEWS ANALYSIS
The Windows 11 hardware fiasco keeps getting worse pcworld.com

If Microsoft's intent was to confuse and anger its customers, it's achieving that.

"As you can imagine, the PC community wasn’t too happy to have to be forced into a smart phone-like upgrade program to get a more secure Windows 11. It’s never been that way for the PC, after all, which has long held legacy support as one of its key pillars"

Bro @Mr. Fox Why can you be more stupid as the years go?

 

Microsoft announced that Windows 11 will start shipping to new and existing PCs on October 5. Unfortunately, the company also confirmed that Windows 11 will not come with Android app support at launch. Microsoft has further confirmed that Windows 11 will roll out to users in phases meaning not everyone will get the update on October 5. The company will roll the update out to "new eligible devices" first and will use intelligent models to decide the roll the update out to other devices. Microsoft is eying mid-2022 to complete the Windows 11 roll out to all the eligible devices.

As expected, Microsoft will provide Windows 11 as a free upgrade to eligible existing Windows 10 users. The update will start rolling out on October 5 and users can go to Settings > Update and Security > Windows Update and click on 'Check for Update' to download the Windows 11 update. Microsoft has also re-released the PC Health Check app so you can check if your device is meeting the minimum requirements to download and install the Windows 11 update. Fortunately, there is a way to get Windows 11 on unsupported hardware, but Microsoft reportedly will not seed Windows updates to unsupported devices.

Lastly, the blog post also lists the new Windows 11 compatible laptops that will be coming to market in the near future. These include Acer Swift X, Asus Zenbook Flip 13, Dell Alienware’s X and more.

 

"Microsoft reportedly will not seed Windows updates to unsupported devices"

What a shame.

 

If this happen they are already digging their own grave regarding the proclamented better security on internet. I can't see this happen. No system in the world will be secure if they''ll let all types malware and virus spam or take over the whole web and with their own code in the middle. Won't happen. There was a reason they patched older un-supported OS versions until today.

 

it's almost similar to how Windows Update would not offer new Win7/Win8.1 updates to Intel Kaby Lake (7th gen) and AMD Ryzen users

I'll believe it when I actually see it come this October.
so believe that MS statement at your own risk, heh
I can always manually download & install whatever W11 updates available from MS Catalog (or maybe from uupdump), so I don't rely on Windows Update to do the updating for me.

 

damn Microsoft - recently giving insiders with unsupported W11 hardware the "boot"

Microsoft kicks unsupported PCs out of Windows 11 preview program

Unsupported Devices Running Windows 11 Removed from Windows Insider Program

 

Just buy a new pc I'm sure you'll find many new models with the Win 11 tag the coming months. But don't buy the cheapest one... Some of they will perform much worse than your old pc but is prepered for Win 11 The choice is yours as Microsoft poin out.


Microsoft invites you to the Surface launch event on September 22nd

Microsoft reveals cryptic "Join us to see what's next" event for September 22 neowin.com · 8 minutes ago 1

Microsoft is sending out invites for an event on September 22. The invite houses a Surface Pro-looking device, hinting at a possible new model. A Surface Duo 2 might also be on the cards.



Windows 11 coming to Dell devices starting October 5th

Dell and Lenovo are among the first to announce Windows 11-ready laptops windowsrport.com

Minimum requirements;
Dell has also warned that Windows 11 won’t be offered on devices that do not meet the minimum hardware requirements.
https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/09/01/dell-promises-support-for-windows-11/

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Windows 11-compatible drivers could arrive on Intel's EOL Kaby Lake G with Radeon RX Vega M neowin.com · Aug 31, 2021 3

Intel seems to be working on a new driver for its discontinued Kaby Lake G-based products and it could be arriving with Windows 11. The driver might possibly be adding support for the next-gen OS.

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Win 11 could be the best thing that have happened for people preferring Win 10. At least you'll have a chance to get a more stable pc I hope Microsoft don't ruin it for all those with hardware that fulfill the Win 11 requirements (new ads that pop up in the OS as "Please update to Windows 11"). Maybe older HW is the way to go? Or just turn of Secure-boot/TPM 2.0

Is Windows 10 21H2 the last build?
If you lump the above considerations together, you could get the idea that Windows 10 has reached the end of development. At least no newer build than the 19044 is in sight - and for some contemporaries it would not be the worst thing to do without further function updates.
https://www.borncity.com/blog/2021/...-21h2-build-19044-das-letzte-funktionsupdate/

 

That is actually something that would cause me to more seriously consider accepting Windows 11. I block updates using third party software, so this would save me the hassle. That would make it less despicable in spite of it's reduced functionality and aesthetically repulsive new UI.

 

Yep maybe, but all the drawbacks with this new fancy touch friendly OS isn't appealing. Rather disgusting. And not worth it even if you don't need or have to block any updates/drivers anymore due not compatible HW. Far too much of the unwanted in this new worm works


Microsoft is making it harder to change Default Apps in Windows 11 ghacks.net
by Martin Brinkmann on September 02, 2021

Windows users who want to change the default applications in Microsoft's Windows 11 operating system have a harder time doing so as Microsoft change the process of setting defaults.

On Windows 10, when you want to change default apps, you visit Settings > Apps > Default Apps. One of the options on the screen that opens is to change the defaults for common applications such as the web browser, photo viewer, video player, or music player. Select the web browser, pick another installed browser, and you are done.

Microsoft did make the process less user friendly than in previous versions of Windows, as you can't pick a program from the system anymore when selecting defaults that is not displayed in the initial listing.

 

Microsoft, could you not?

 

Yes, I agree. Windows 11 is a piece of crap.

 

And you should be damn happy you don't need to find your email filled with spam.

Microsoft Starts Emailing Windows 11 Insiders Who Don't Meet Hardware Requirements tomshardware.com

They'll have to revert to Windows 10

Today Microsoft started emailing insiders to again alert them to downgrade if they use unsupported hardware.

There is no hope for this company.

 

Microsoft reportedly broke Windows 11 by injecting ads

 

Pretty sure there's more than two but its an extremely painful point. If you buy a computer, you already bought a licence for the OS, meaning there shouldn't be any ads since you bought it.

Windows 11 is just broken and a forced "buy a new computer" tactic to get everyone ditching their old yet probably even more reliable computers. Changing a laptop from a small system where RAM is at least upgradable to another with soldered RAM is a downgrade, along with the OS.

 

Windows 11 may not get security updates on unsupported devices bleepingcomputer.com | Sept 4, 2021

Microsoft is turning a blind eye to a loophole that allows you to install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware but warns that your device may no longer receive security updates.

It is not clear if users will be able to install updates manually through the Microsoft Update Catalog, and if they can, this limitation won't be as much of an issue if a user can stay on top of it.

On the other hand, if Microsoft blocks manual updates as well, this could lead to trouble for users who attempt to install software on incompatible hardware.

New ways doesn't always mean better.

Windows 11 Disk Cleanup from properties C: \ has been removed
good Morning September 3, 2021

Microsoft announced some time ago that disk cleanup by right-clicking on C: \ -> Properties will no longer be developed. Now Microsoft has removed them in the new Windows 11 22H1 (22H2).

It still works if you enter cleanmgr.exe via Windows key + R and start it. Then the old disk cleanup appears. But who knows how much longer. It would then be an old relic that Microsoft is removing. Since we only received the first build of the new version with Windows 11 22449 , a lot will certainly happen.

How many times do you think they have broke Win 10 with awful cooding? Every single patch Tuesday and Preview updates come with bugs. And this won't stop with Win 10.

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Windows 11 22449 ISO / ESD (German, English)
good Morning September 3, 2021 6:39

Yesterday the first Insider came in the Dev channel, which will be released for everyone next year. It is Windows 11 22449.1000, more precisely 10.0.22449.1000 rs_prerelease (code name Nickel). There is not much new to report yet.

As always, we will provide you with the ISOs for the build.

Windows 11 22449 ISO english

• En-Us x64 Home, Pro, Pro Educ., Pro for Work., Educ., Multi Session, Ent. Vol. HiDrive (4.31 GB) Thanks to Birkuli

Edit.
A new array of system bugs came with Windows 11’s 22449.1000 build windowsreport.com

Exactly like the previous ones before it, it is full of bugs and critical issues.

New build installation fails on devices without TPM
A number of Windows Insiders that use devices without the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) feature were unable to install this brand new software version for Windows 11.

Even though a lot of users that lack this specific addition to their devices were in fact able to actively test the future operating system, Microsoft decided that enough is enough.

Or, it could be a critical system bug that wreaks havoc on the mentioned hardware and prohibit Insiders from installing build 22449.1000
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Yep, The Aw-boys try fix/enable TPM on not Win 11 supported laptops... They just want that new OS over anything else
17 R4, turning on and off on a loop after firmware TPM

And I'm sure Dell can do some good deals selling their remaining stock of old refurbished motherboards at inflated prices, LOOL

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Riot Games’ Valorant game is enforcing TPM 2.0 on Windows 11
Mayank Parmar - September 5, 2021

Windows 11 is finally arriving on October 5 and it will officially require newer processors with TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. One of the hottest topics in Microsoft's community is whether or not you.....

After Windows 11 Build 22000.176 and Build 22449, some users reported that they’re unable to play Riot Games’ Valorant.



As shown in the below screenshot, Riot Games’ Valorant won’t run on unsupported Windows 11 PCs without TPM (Trusted Platform Module) 2.0 and Secure Boot.

 

Should gamers stick to Windows 10? 8:08 Conclusion

 

jesus....

i havent posted in weeks but jesus what are they doing

 

Not nice showing their new baby in badder light due hardened security that will slow down the performance below Win 10 if you run the wrong not hardware, LOOL

Their new strickt HW requirements is there only for your own good (if you value their new claimed higher security)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-my-dell-11-3000.836328/page-2#post-11117074

 

I'm noticing that Windows Defender is much more active in Windows 11 as compared to Windows 10. Can anyone confirm this? I'm running it on older unsupported hardware, so I'd like to know if it is the same on new hardware as well. On older hardware the additional CPU usage is very noticeable. Might need to look more carefully on new hardware.

 

Windows Defender has always been the heaviest AV since years and that won't change:

https://www.av-comparatives.org/com...=2021&chart_month=4&chart_sort=1&chart_zoom=0

 

See also my previous posts. I'm sure Microsoft will try push more Junk into Win11 to suck up even more Cpu clock cyckles. What you see is only the beginning

It's a reason they say "stay on the old" when you have the old HW

5 Things To Know About Microsoft’s Windows 11 Security Strategy

“With Windows 11, we are focused on increasing security, improving reliability, and ensuring compatibility. This is what drives our decisions,” Microsoft said in the blog post.

The company has said that its hardware requirements for upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 will include having a processor from Intel’s eighth generation (Coffee Lake) or newer, or from AMD’s Zen 2 series and up.

 

I find that rather difficult to believe.

 

Yeah I'm on fully supported hardware running the pre-release build 22449 of Win 11 and I actually have TWO Anti-Malware service executable processes running, each using about 90MB of RAM (hardly any CPU usage). I don't ever remember seeing two instances of this running. Definitely not excited about the direction they are taking. I'm wondering if using another AV program will actually stop those processes, I have my doubts. I haven't used anything software besides Windows AV just because it's free. Any suggestions?

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how much RAM an AV service uses how NOTHING to do with how heavy or light it is. We're not in 1996 where people had 64 MB of RAM

It's all about how it handles file scanning. NOD32 uses a lot of RAM compared to other AVs yet its light as a feather.

 

I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at. How else do we judge a piece of softwares burden on a system if we aren't looking at its CPU/RAM burden on the system?

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Tell me, where do you see them looking at how much RAM a security solution is using? What matters is the below chart, how it handles regular day-to-day activities.

https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/performance-test-april-2021/

 

Ah I gotcha, thank you. I mean, it would make sense to still factor in direct CPU/RAM burden that an AV program has on a system because while it may appear to be "speedy" or having little impact on tasks such as web browsing, opening files, installing applications (all things this comparison is looking at), if it's hogging resources and you have other programs needing those resources then this will have a direct impact on my experience. With that said, I'm assuming that most AV solutions today *shouldn't* be using system resources in that manner unless they are running a full system scan, which they shouldn't be doing anyhow while a user is actively engaged. Or, in my experience with MS defender, it is buggy and decides to continually scan its own directory or executable and does in fact have a directly negative impact on system resources. I certainly wouldn't mind trying out another AV solution, I just have a hard time believing MS defender will actually stop running. I feel like it has its tentacles too deeply integrated into the OS and what will end up happening is I have one AV solution running while MS is still running at least some of its processes alongside it.

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We've had many discussions about RAM usage on Wilders Security forum bro, the consensus is, let the AV use as much RAM as it needs a long as it will do its job without affecting your machine's performance.

What baffles me is, Windows Defender in theory SHOULD be the lightest since it comes from the people who created the OS! I mean who else can make an AV knowing how every file, DLL, service, etc runs than Microsoft themselves right? But the ugly truth is not the case.

The problem with Windows Defender, is it has no file whitelisting feature. For example, NOD32 will never scan the file again unless its digital hash changes that's why it is recommended to perform a full system scan after installing it then performance will be so light as if you had no AV.

Many people swear by Windows Defender because its free and is already preinstalled. Those same people might be coming from a very old computer and now they "think" wow Windows Defender is so light because their new computer is still lightyears faster but what they don't really know is how much faster it can be without Windows Defender because they never tried anything else and don't want to. You can't argue with such people.

If I was going to choose a Free AV, Panda Antivirus is the best, it is so light, has no ads, the only thing to be sure of is when installing it to uncheck the install Opera browser box and once installed, go to Settings and uncheck. the Panda News at the bottom of the General settings tab then you won't even know it's there.

 

Yeah you make a great point, I've used Windows defender for so long that I wouldn't really know to what extent it may be impacting daily performance. I'll give Panda a try and see if Windows Defender actually let's it take over. Thank you for the recommendation! I'm not sure exactly what you do for HIDevolution, but I purchased this system from you guys about a month ago and I had a great experience with all the reps I dealt with.

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Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to check it out based on your recommendation.
Btw. I like Opera.It has a free preinstalled/preconfigured VPN that lets me visit websites that have been blocked by my govt. without having to change the settings of my main browser - Firefox. Link doesn't work? Copy the link, paste it in Opera and go.

 

I have 2 roles in the company, 1 - Sales and 2- Tuning & Optimization - for people who have selected the TOP (Tuning & Optimization Package) upgrade along with their order which includes the following tweaks:

Here is a list of some of the tweaks this service entails:

1- Un-installation of the Windows Store apps that you don’t need including the ones which don’t have an “ un-install” option. (ie. Cortana, maps, people, Your Phone, etc.)

2- Removing Windows 10 privacy invasion like Telemetry, collecting activities that you do on your computer, sending your keystrokes to Microsoft, automatically installing suggested apps in the background, allowing Microsoft to conduct experiments on your laptop, disabling Windows 10 ads, disabling Cortana, Cloud Search, and disabling Microsoft from using your computer as an upload server to send previously installed Windows updates to other users worldwide which will severely impact your internet speed.

3- Installing and configuring your favorite web browser with an ad-blocker to prevent ads and online tracking.

4- Preventing Microsoft Edge from running automatically on startup in the background which takes up system resources.

5- Turning on Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling to improve performance and reduce latency

6- Adjusting several options in PC Settings like disabling Windows Tablet Mode (since you have a laptop/desktop not a tablet), disabling suggestions appearing in the start menu, disabling Game DVR which reduces performance, and much more.

7- Restoring the Classic Windows 7 Start Menu if you prefer the old classic Start Menu.

8- Completely disabling Windows Defender from its roots (including all scheduled tasks and startup files) for those who want to install their own security solution. We recommend ESET NOD32 Antivirus if you want the best security with the least system performance impact. See: AV-Comparatives Latest Performance Tests

9- Removal of factory installed bloatware.

10- Updating all drivers to the latest versions.

11- Creating a system image enabling you to easily restore your computer the way it was after all the tweaks were done within a few minutes.

12- Filling the OEM Info in System Properties with your computer model, support contact, and link to your computers drivers page for easy access:



Windows 7 Start Menu Styles you can choose from:

Start Menu Style 1 (Modern)


Start Menu Style 2 (Classic)



Start Menu Style 3 (Alienware Black)



Start Menu Style 4 (Alienware Silver)

 

See what happens when the old dogs retire? Whatever happened to the philosophy for the MS founder who said, "No one will need more than 637 kB of memory for a personal computer" and "640 k ought to be enough for anybody."

 

Haha.. If that kB was changed from KiloBytes to something higher than yB then 640 kB is ought to be enough!

RAM usage was a metric used half a decade ago. There's also another point to note that an AV can't consume 99% of the RAM and be light since it can be considered a resource hog and you'll most likely stay away or not use an AV.
Then again most AVs have good performance nowadays. WD can be resource hog whilst comparing ESet but I use WD because I use a lot of custom scripts/code and WD/MSE rarely deleted anything as suspicious.

 

That's awesome, I may have spoken with you. That optimization setup is also great, I often wonder how many people buy these expensive machines and leave so much on the table by not paying the little to have something like this done, assuming they cannot perform these steps on their own. It will be interesting to see how much different (if at all) your optimization process will change with Windows 11. I haven't noticed many changes running the same debloating scripts or service deactivation that I did with Windows 10. I haven't dug as deep yet as I have been busy but as far as I can tell they just slapped a new coat of paint on the OS and called it new lol.

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We've had a staggering amount of TOP orders included with every laptop, so much to the point where I asked the management to have the service removed from the website. As in, in the past, anyone could go on the website and purchase the TOP service separately and have it done to any of his computers remotely via TeamViewer with me but the amount of orders was way more than any human can handle so now it's only an option which can be selected when purchasing a new laptop and it's done in-house. That takes off a lot of pressure having to schedule appointments and be tied to them and also decreased the workload to where it is manageable.

As for Windows 11, once Windows 11 is finalized, I will surely have all the tweaks updated to ensure they work with the new OS.

 

Nasty bug causes Windows 10 Start menu to pop up on Windows 11 windowsreport.com

• The Windows 11 system bugs saga continues with a brand new visual glitch.
• This time, when pressing the Start button, something unexpected happens.
• The Start menu from Windows 10 pops up, instead of the new version.
• Issues such as these are making people lose confidence in the upcoming OS.

Windows 11 with a Windows 10 Start menu?
Yes, you heard correctly, there is no smoke or mirrors involved, just another system glitch from our very own Windows 11.

People seriously question Windows 11’s originality
This new system bug discourages even the most vehement Windows 11 supporters out there, as it shows once again that the new OS is just what we had before, only with more make-up.

Even if it is so, Microsoft should have done a better job at keeping this for itself and bolster community confidence, instead of shattering it with such silly and avoidable mistakes.

 

So, how's the reputation going for ya, Microsoft?

 

They don't bother with criticism or high reputation. Have been like this the last decade. They know very well there ain't many other options for the average Joe, governments, enterprise or the Gamers. They just push on as they have always done.

 

Look at this @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix It seems Microsoft create malware. And they know it themself

This PC does not meet the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11. These requirements help ensure a more reliable, higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may cause compatibility issues. If you continue to install Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and will not be eligible to receive updates. Damage to your PC due to incompatibility is not covered by the manufacturer's guarantee. If you select “Accept”, you confirm that you have read and understood these instructions.

Windows 11 can be installed (update) despite incompatible hardware from Microsoft deskmodder.de

 

Well, it has been malware since Windows 8.X but now they want to make Windows 11 a rootkit instead of a PUP magnet (UWP app filth) or virus. It's sad that they don't have the gonads to just be honest and say, we have made Windows 11 incompatible with your PC because we are control freak butt holes. But, they lie and say the PC is not compatible and might be damaged. They're totally full of crap and they know they are. Sadly, most consumer muppets do not.

 

An OS that can damage your PC?

 

They say so I expect Microsofts own engineers know their own OS better than others, LOOL

Won't damage the pc but they was close to kill a few ssd's

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-60#post-11033772

Windows 10 Alert: Defragger bug defrags SSD Drives too often bleepingcomputer.com | June 15, 2020

With the release of Windows 10 version 2004, the Windows Defragger has become a mess as it starts to defrag SSD drives too often, perform trim on non-SSD drives, and forgets when it last optimized a drive....

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The sad truth....

Latest Surface Pro X model will have the Windows 11 ARM OS

• Many people with Windows 11 incompatible devices are looking to purchase brand-new gadgets.
• Microsoft saw the opportunity and was quick to provide all sorts of devices with the upcoming OS.
• The new Surface Pro X device’s model number is 1876, which is the same as its predecessors.
• Redmond officials said the thinner Surface Pro today is using both Microsoft SQ 1 and SQ 2 chips.

How long will Mozilla stay in paradise before Microsoft once again will make stupid changes in the OS to push Edge and ads on you all...

Mozilla has defeated Microsoft’s default browser protections in Windows
Mozilla has quietly made it easier to switch to Firefox on Windows recently. While Microsoft offers a method to switch default browsers on Windows 10, it’s more cumbersome than the simple one-click process to switch to Edge. This one-click process isn’t officially available for anyone other than Microsoft, and Mozilla appears to have grown tired of the situation.

In version 91 of Firefox, released on August 10th, Mozilla has reverse engineered the way Microsoft sets Edge as default in Windows 10, and enabled Firefox to quickly make itself the default. Before this change, Firefox users would be sent to the Settings part of Windows 10 to then have to select Firefox as a default browser and ignore Microsoft’s plea to keep Edge.