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    Windows 11

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    Power Profiles are Causing Throttling of the CPU
    Despite the power profile of balanced stating minimum 5% and maximum 100% CPU; the power profile is limiting performance of rendering and other CPU intensive applications. This even from Dell :D
    https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/...throttling-of-the-central-processing-unit-cpu

    I have always used High Performance profile. And will continue to do so.

    See also the advice from bro @unclewebb https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ultimate-performance-power-plan.283007/post-4535701

    The default Balanced power plan prevents the CPU from running at maximum speed when lightly loaded. Some people prefer full speed all of the time. High Performance and Ultimate Performance are for users that need that. The reduced latency is important for some users.

    As well https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...Intel-Xeon-W-3300-Processor-Performance-2193/

    How well do the Intel Xeon W-3300 CPUs perform in Photoshop?
    For most users, high-end workstation platforms like Xeon W or Threadripper Pro are not necessary for Photoshop since the Intel 11th Gen or AMD Ryzen CPUs are both cheaper and faster. There are going to be niche workflows where support for huge amounts of RAM will come into play - and higher reliability is always a good thing - but the feature set of Xeon W is largely overkill for Photoshop.

    However, one important thing we did find in our testing is that if you plan on using Photoshop on a Xeon W-3300 processor, you may want to switch to the "High Performance" Windows power profile since it can give you up to a 20% increase in Photoshop performance over the default "Balanced" profile. This was enough to bring Xeon W-3300 to on par with Threadripper Pro, where otherwise they would be 15-20% behind.
     
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    Its not surprising as it was just announced only 3 months ago with no hype nor build up before then like previous versions of Windows and the fact that most users wont be able to upgrade to it and there barely any changes from Windows 10. Speaking of that Windows 10 21H2 will be released next month too... This wont end well!.
     
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    The Win 11 hype is real. Even Google will follow on the same rail-road due Microsoft.

    Google Chrome is getting menus with rounded corners to match the style of Windows 11
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ou-mean-its-ugly.822800/page-10#post-11120984
     
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    To be fair Google has pushed rounded looks on Android for a long time now, so there is also that. Nevertheless it looks like poop.
     
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    As far as appearance goes, I think Windows 7 was the best. Rounded corners, glass borders, shadings, reflections and gradients.
     
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    VBS IN WINDOWS 11 - UL Benchmarks indicates a loss of performance computerbase.com | Sept 30, 2021

    UL Benchmarks informs users of 3DMark, PCMark and Co. about performance losses in Windows 11 as a result of Virtual-based Security (VBS).

    The requirements for active VBS
    Microsoft's own information on the prerequisites for activating VBS are once again contradictory: At one point , TPM 2.0 and active secure boot are mentioned, at other TPM 2.0 is explicitly mentioned as optional and secure boot is not mentioned at all. Required are:

    • Active secure boot
    • Active CPU virtualization (AMD: AMD-V / SMV, Intel: VT-x)
    • Windows installation as UEFI, not legacy

    upload_2021-9-30_18-38-19.png

    Yep....

    VBS from Windows 10 becomes an issue in Windows 11
    Virtualization-based Security (VBS) is already integrated in Windows 10, but is deactivated by default. With Windows 11, Microsoft now wants to work with OEMs to ensure that VBS is activated at the factory.
     
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    I generally block, refuse, or limit version updates unless there is an improvement in performance that comes from the newest build. Does 17763.316 offer better CPU benchmark scores than 17763.107? If so, I'll update to gain the higher numbers. @Papusan did you notice any improvement?

    Disgusting. Monkey see, monkey do.
    It seems like being silly (to use a kinder word than I normally would) is standard operating procedure for the technology "leaders" of the world. I prefer the square corners, too. But, I'd tolerate the round corners just fine if everything else were not so screwed up. It's pretty telling when the only thing the tech media can find to be worth talking about is "round corners" LOL. It really emphasizes the fact that Windoze 11 has nothing to offer anyone except for more bloat and an aesthetic downgrade.

    Windows 7 was, and still is, the best at just about everything. We began a downhill slide since the day that 8.X was introduced, and now the downhill grade is getting steeper, causing the sliding to accelerate. We are approaching the edge of the cliff, so a free-fall is imminent.
     
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    Nope. But if I remember correctly some lost some data with the first build. And I neither see decreases in benchmarks with newer builds. Regardless what you go for on LTSC, it’s the only OS I want from Win 10 stacks of OS versions. Clean and light :) And on top. Never problems with standalone security updates with network disabled. No need to use the Macrium backups.
     
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    I've got the Dev build running on my old laptop. I'm gonna see if VBS is activated and if so, see if I can deactivate all those features and see if W11 keeps running.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    Windows 11 22468 ISO / ESD (German, English)
    [​IMG] good Morning September 30, 2021 7:12

    Yesterday Microsoft distributed Windows 11 22468 in the dev channel and made some corrections again. There you will also find instructions for installing the new Insider on older hardware. Please note, this version is not the "final" 22000, which was released on October 5th. You can find the ISOs here . But here are the new insider ISOs:

    Windows 11 22463 22468 ISO english
    • En-Us x64 Home, Pro, Pro Educ., Pro for Work., Educ., Multi Session, Ent. Vol. Also as N-Version HiDrive (4.31 GB)
     
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    More info and results from Microsoft push into more security.

    Windows 11 will hobble gaming performance by default on some prebuilt PCs pcgamer.com | Oct 1, 2021

    Microsoft 'will be enabling VBS on most new PCs over this next year' and that can tank PC gaming performance by around 25%.

    Despite Microsoft's claims that "if you're a gamer, Windows 11 was made for you" you will need to watch out for future prebuilt PCs with the new OS factory installed. That's because the Big M is enabling more security features in PCs by default, and one in particular can seriously tank gaming performance.

    In our testing, that can add up to as much as a 28% drop in average frame rates. And you thought the TPM 2.0 restrictions were a pain... :D
     
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    Yeah, Microsoft, about the gaming claim... If you want to game stick with 10 and forget that 11 existed so you can keep your framerates high.

    This is stupid. Just gives an incentive to bog down even more just because there's more power in processing.
     
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    As far as I remember, 17763.107 is the RTM for the Win10 LTSC 1809, that one had an issue with default apps setting for some Win32 apps. MS fixed it and later released this new update of 17763.316 iso. Also MSMG cannot service the .316 iso, need to use the 17763.1 iso and add the Security updates on top with the usual debloat procedure. I think @Mr. Fox there's no harm in issuing the KB updates from Security and LTSC patches for this release as brother Papu mentioned.

    Coming to the Win10 2021 LTSC, I wonder when they will announce. Perhaps too busy in fixing the dumpster fire of that POS OS Win11 for the masses. I feel pity for the ones who are now fearing for the lack of TPM and Win11 compat. But I don't understand why bother ? Win10 works fine, it even has everything that one needs for the DX12 full feature set (at-least the dumpster Win10 Pro / Home versions). The only reason I would want the LTSC Win10 2021 is to see the new OS with all the WDDM updates. I really hope in that process they do not bust the nut of the Win10 LTSC nature and purpose.

    Never going to bother with Win11 junk until 2025, that too only if they have an LTSC on par with Win10 LTSC, but not having confidence esp from the benchmark performance that Mr.Fox shared earlier and it's insane downgrades. Note - At that point Win10 LTSC 2018 still will be getting updates since it's upto 2029, but Win10 mainstream will be left out (though if M$ history tells us anything, they will support it for extended time period like Win7 plus not all corporations have this new spyware chip TPM BS necessity)
     
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    It's good to know that if I accidentally have some Windoze updates leak past my barricades they might not affect anything. I'm not too worried about "security" and think most of it is severely overhyped. The people that create the need for security updates deserve to be actively hunted down and executed on first sight, no questions asked and no due process of law, but I'm not going to let the overreaction to the existence of human scum get me hot and bothered or live in fear of their nonsense. I look at them like I do COVID-19... very unfortunate, but let's move on with life and not let the tail wag the dog. (My wife and I were both very ill with COVID and it was miserable, but I am still not going to allow the fear of it to alter my lifestyle. Unfortunately, the fear held by those around me really effs things up. I look at Windows security in much the same way. It's a money-maker that is over-hyped to make security software and hardware companies wealthier.)
     
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    lol....once again should I make the switch? I have 300 games installed and my business beats setup ready to go....windows 11 better be good for me to do a wipe...and how do I get it without a flash drive can you install it like windows 20h2 update kinda like install it in windows
     
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    For your main system, I'd recommend you wait about a month after launch just in case some hitherto undiscovered bugs come to light. A LOT more people will be 'testing' it after the official launch, so it is a distinct possibility.
    If you fulfill the hardware requirements and have sufficient disk space, you'll get the offer to upgrade to Windows 11 much like any other feature update.
    However, my personal choice for any major update is to do a clean install. In your case, I appreciate that it is going to be a real pain. Steam and other game managers make it a lot less painful, though, especially if you've installed them on a different drive.
     
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    Should you? No, absolutely not. There is nothing to gain. There is a loss of functionality. It represents loss by any measurement. You shouldn't unless you want to and you like the aesthetic elements of Windows 11 that many absolutely hate and care more about that than you do anything else. If that is the case, knock yourself out and have fun. Windows 11 is a joke. It carries a bigger bloat payload because it is a re-skinned version of Windows 10 and every major release of Windows packs a larger malware payload than the one before it. The Redmond Reprobates needed something to get their fanboys excited about so they could generate more cash, and so they invented an insanely ugly Windows theme and called it Windows 11 instead of something like stupid like 1H22. Then they tried to make it "incompatible" so their Digi-Mafia incest-lovers that sell hardware can help them milk the cash cow.
     
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    A useless upgrade. Win 11 is meant to boost the sales of own new released HW junk.
    upload_2021-10-2_21-31-59.png
    REVIEWS
    Windows 11 review: An unnecessary replacement for Windows 10 pcworld.com
    Windows 11 contains some good ideas. But it also feels like Microsoft made some fundamental changes to Windows for no good reason.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    A survey reveals almost half of professional PCs are not ready for Windows 11 winaero.com

    Microsoft will ship Windows 11 to the public on October 5, 2021. Eligible devices with compatible motherboards and CPUs will get the operating system via Windows Update, while incompatible devices will stay with Windows 10 (or move to Windows 11 using clean installation). A survey from Lansweeper reveals that quite a large chunk of professional computers and workstations are not ready to upgrade to Windows 11. In fact, more than 55% of surveyed PCs will not get Windows 11 via Windows Update.

     
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    2.5 stars out of 5 is all too much. But you cannot expect much more from the editors at PcWorld. At least they didn't give it 3 stars :D
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I've been running the Dev channel release on another rig for testing purposes for work which will essentially be the next major release of W11. Wow, I cannot tell you how many more background services are running, it's absolutely astounding. There are so many touch/tablet functions running that are completely unnecessary and unused for a desktop setup. They just grabbed W10X and reskinned it and called it W11 which means desktop users are burdened with a service stuffed, touch screen oriented, telemetry overloaded piece of garbage. While certainly not surprised, I am still disappointed that they spoiled another incredible opportunity to set themselves apart and instead created a Mac-OS themed knock off. Updating, in this situation, is not synonymous with upgrading. They've just taken one more giant step forward in the data harvesting era of technology. The product is not W11, you and your information are the product. W11 is just the vessel by which your data is extracted for the benefit of others. Ugh, whatever.....

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    It says enough. I agree that a -5 star rating would be more appropriate, but 1 is as low as they go. The thing is, a rating of 2.5 is half of 5 so they are confirming that it is a half-assed piece of trash with the generous 2.5 star rating.

    All very true. And, the concept that we are the product is correct. That's all part of the diabolical plan. The list of default services and running background process on Windows 11 is, indeed, absolutely insane. In a not-so-good way it is amazing that an average PC has enough system resources left to run a web browser.
     
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    REVIEWS
    Tested! Here's how much the new Windows security features hurt PC performance pcworld.com

    We tested Intel's 4th- to 11th-gen Core processors and AMD's Ryzen 5000 CPU with Microsoft's Virtualization Based Security feature to see how much performance was hurt.

    The elephant in the room is obviously Intel’s 7th-gen Kaby Lake CPUs which, in our testing, basically aren’t slowed down any more than an 8th-gen Kaby Lake R lake laptop. If the 8th-gen Kaby Lake R gets to run Windows 11 and VBS, why not the 7th-gen Kaby Lake chips? That really isn’t clear to us, but we do know Microsoft has indicated driver support and system stability also matters here, not just performance. So there’s likely more to this story.

    Still no reason for the new introduced HW requrements to see the lights for Win 11. Should be up to the users. Because you will never ever see a 100% secure OS from Microsoft.


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    REPORTWINDOWS 11 AS AN UPDATE UPDATE 2 - Requirements, installation, TPM & CPU requirements computerbase.de

    Windows 11 will appear in a week. An overview of update requirements, installation paths, and TPM and CPU requirements.



    A critical error prevents some Windows 11 users from installing Mixed Reality windowsreport.com | Today
    • Upgrading to the new OS is a joyful occasion for a lot of Windows 10 users.
    • However, many are still having trouble installing their favorite software.
    • For some, the installation process for Mixed Reality fails with a critical error.
    • Others are struggling with overall poor quality and long response times.

     
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    Hurry kids... Upgrade now! Hurry!

     
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    Not upgrading to Windows 11 certainly seems to be the smart thing to do. However, just like when Windows 10 was launched, the previous OS, in this case Windows 10, is going to turn into nagware, with popups all over the place urging you to upgrade.
     
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    Yes, that will most likely happen if it is permitted. And, it will be permitted because most Windoze users are muppets that allow the tail to wag the dog. But, not here. Metaphorically speaking, we are (or should be) the gods of our computers. An OS that can't be controlled by its "god" deserves to be damned. Windoze 11 is worthy of it regardless. It's an unholy product, produced by an ungodly company, and the devil is in the details.
     
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    That is why I posted the " Hurry kids... Upgrade now! Hurry!" earlier, but I did not want to contribute to the delinquency of adults or minors by giving out clues that the RTM version of the ugliest, more bloated, and most dumbed down release of Windows 10 cancer OS Service Pack is available for download.
     
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    Direct Download Official Windows 11 ISO Files (64-bit Only) wccftech.com

    Direct download Windows 11 ISO files
    Microsoft has released the Windows 11 disk images, which are now available for download. Here is the link (valid for both Home and Pro) to download Windows 11.

    For languages other than English, head over to Microsoft. As these links will expire soon ( 10/6/2021 12:36:15 PM UTC)

    If you’ve downloaded the media image from another source, you can verify the authenticity of your download by following the steps in this link below... https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/10/05/download-windows-11-iso-images/

    Ready to install the latest and greatest on your small pretty Dell-book? The Cpu is supported.


    Why Microsoft Is So Hell-Bent On Windows 11 TPM And Cloud Security Requirements hothardware.com

    David Weston, Microsoft director of OS and enterprise security, spoke with CRN about the company's controversial decisions with Windows 11. The primary motivation, according to Weston, was to improve security across the board for consumers and businesses, and that meant making some hard decisions regarding hardware requirements.

    For example, Weston said that only 8th generation Intel processors and newer support all the functionality of VBS and TPM 2.0 while hitting its internal performance requirements. That's why only a select few 7th generation Core processors are supported by Windows 11, while the vast majority are blocked.

    "Ultimately, we could have chosen many lines," he added. "But we used data analysis around reliability, performance, and security to get there, and that is how we landed on that particular bar."

    A more enlightening article why Microsoft banned Cpu's from 2018 and past...

    Microsoft Exec: Windows 11 CPU Requirements Allow Key Security Features To Run ‘By Default’
    https://www.crn.com/news/applicatio...llow-key-security-features-to-run-by-default-


    Windows 11: Partners Say It’s A ‘Smart Play’ By Microsoft To Put Security First crn.com

    While stringent hardware requirements will prevent many PCs from installing Windows 11, the verdict from solution providers is that the security advantages of TPM 2.0 and newer processors are worth it. The third of a three-part series on Windows 11.
     
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    KB5005716: Out of Box Experience update for Windows 10, version 2004, 20H2, 21H1, and 21H2: October 4, 2021

    Summary

    This update improves the Windows 10, version 2004, 20H2, 21H1, and 21H2 out-of-box experience (OOBE) by providing eligible devices the option to upgrade to Windows 11 as part of the OOBE process. If the upgrade to Windows 11 is chosen, the upgrade process will begin shortly after OOBE is completed. This update applies only to the Windows 10, version 2004, 20H2, 21H1, and 21H2 OOBE process and will be available only when OOBE updates are installed.

    This update applies to the following:

    • Windows 10, version 2004 (Home and Professional only)
    • Windows 10, version 20H2 (Home and Professional only)
    • Windows 10, version 21H1 (Home and Professional only)
    • Windows 10, version 21H2 (Home and Professional only)

    How to get this update

    Windows OOBE

    This update is installed during the Windows 10 OOBE process if an Internet connection is available during the OOBE process.

    Prerequisites

    You must have one of the following updates or a later update installed to apply this update:

    • For Windows 10, version 2004
      Recommended: November 10, 2020—KB4586781 (OS Build 19041.630)
      Optional: October 29, 2020—KB4580364 (OS Build 19041.610)
    • For Windows 10, version 20H2
      No additional updates are required.
    • For Windows 10, version 21H1
      No additional updates are required.
    • For Windows 10, version 21H2
      No additional updates are required.

    Restart information

    You must restart the device after you apply this update.

    Update replacement information

    This update does not replace a previously released update.
     
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    Yep, I'm sure Microsoft Chief Product Officer Panos Panya have been made sure that the telemetry works as expected :D

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    A rolling release to Windows 11 askwoody.com

    Microsoft confirms Windows 11 issues with VirtualBox, Intel Killer bleepingcomputer.com

    Right after officially releasing Windows 11, Microsoft has added three know issues to the Windows 11 12H2 release health dashboard.
    Yep, perfect timing... On win 11 release day :)

    New UEFI bootkit used to backdoor Windows devices since 2012
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ts-and-incidents.816109/page-47#post-11121827

    Secure Boot doesn't really help
    Patching the Windows Boot Manager (bootmgfw.efi) requires for Secure Boot (which helps check if the PC boots using trusted firmware) to be disabled.

    As the researchers discovered, attackers have deployed the bootkit in the wild, which means they've found a method to toggle off Secure Boot on targeted devices.

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    Windows 11 review: The start of a new era windowscentral.com

    Windows 11: The bottom line
    I'm sure Microsoft will add back some of the missing features and behaviors in future releases, but I don't think it'll add back everything. I have a feeling that the vision for Windows 11 going forward is simplicity and ease of use, catering more to the average user who is more familiar with how things are done on their phone, and less to the die-hard Windows power users who want everything to be accessible in a single-click.

    A new smarthphone OS is just born. The start of a new era, LOOL

    Only time will tell when Microsoft will try jump on the smartphone race again. They have just laid the ground foundation for this with Win 11.

    Edit.
    Windows 11 review: Aesthetics over functionality neowin.net
     
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    Yes, amen to that. We will never see a 100% secure OS from them or anyone else. Any device connected to the internet is vulnerable to exploit. Plus, the immensely more important underlying matter is that it is none of their damned business what CPU is installed, or whether or not Secure Boot and TPM are available or enabled. They need to butt out and buzz off with the hardware requirements nonsense. It is fine to recommend those things, but requiring those things is outrageous and it makes their ugly-looking digital abortion harder to accept, or outright unacceptable. It may not occur to them that some people don't want Secure Boot and TPM, so they should not have a surprised look on their faces when people reject the idea of installing their trash OS. Anyone that goes out and buys a new laptop only "so they can have Windows 11" deserves whatever kind of broken pile of garbage they get just for being ignorant.
     
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    This didn't take long:

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windo...-memory-leaks-remain-unresolved.568613.0.html

    Details:

    File Explorer memory leak
    The other major bug that was noticed by Insiders (via u/gyrohan269 on Reddit) is a File Explorer memory leak. Essentially, any well-written process should free up the allocated memory space once it has been terminated. Looks like that's not the case with File Explorer in the public release of Windows 11 (Build 22000.194).

    The issue appears to affect all Windows 11 installs; we could replicate this issue ourselves as well. Just open multiple windows of File Explorer and notice the RAM usage in Task Manager. Now, close each window to see if the RAM usage declines accordingly. In all likelihood, it doesn't.

    If you work with File Explorer a lot with too many Explorer windows open, you may eventually end up with a sluggish PC. This problem may not necessarily impede those with fast RAM kits and the likes, but it does pose an issue for systems with lesser (and slower) memory.

    Nevertheless, this is a problem that should not exist in the first place. Third-party apps such as Files v2 and Shrestha Files Pro do not suffer from this bug, so it's high time Microsoft fixes this on a priority. If you notice this issue as well, be sure to log it in the Feedback Hub for an increased probability of redressal.

    A launch day memory leak? Really? M$ had a real opportunity with W11 to change the game in a meaningful way. I held a sliver of hope that the development of WSL meant a kernel change might be coming. With leadership at M$ starting to warm to the idea of open source as a viable and necessary element of the development ecosystem, W11 could have positioned itself as the ultimate OS; a platform where private/public partnership met and a possible start towards the last operating system anyone might need. Customizable, transparent, tiered support and delivery, and most of all, debugging in the open. Instead, we get a tablet OS shoehorned in a bug-ridden, overburdened W10 clone. What a mess.
     
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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan LOL, the OS just got released and here goes the bugs. So much for all the preview builds and BETAs! Classical M!cr0$h4ft $w!$$ Ch33$3 [​IMG]
     
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    We already have ample evidence (since it was introduced in 2015) that they do not care about their product or the people that use it. Same behavior we have come to expect from companies that sell turdbooks, including crApple.

    As long as people are willing to accept garbage and deal with correcting the problems on their own, or living with those problems, there will be an endless supply of garbage. Garbage hardware, garbage OSes, and garbage software available for download from their "store" cesspools.
    Aesthetics? Really? Where? Maybe they really mean the absence of pleasing aesthetic qualities and they are trying extra-hard to find something nice to say.

    It amazes me that they showcase the disgusting UI as if it is something special. It's ugly enough to gag a maggot. W8.X and W.10 were arguably equally atrocoious, but they clearly are not learning from past mistakes and they seem to have a knack for employing designers with no talent in the area of design. They have all the bases covered... it's ugly, and it's inefficient, and it impairs performance. By my count that is three strikes.

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    Yep, the major problem is the users/people that is willing to accept garbage.... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nfo-for-their-ads.831352/page-7#post-11121867
    See my comment above.
     
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    I tried running the OS in a virtual machine again but this time with the released ISO and, well, they didn't actually tighten up the TPM requirement. So, I downloaded Pro, chosen Pro for installation and did that TPM bypass trick thing with Regedit. It did install, but discovered that in setup that was slower than molasses I still had to login with my Microsoft account and had no option for local user... What gives?

    I went with Pro, expecting to see Local account creation but the setup UI looks so awful and burned my eyes. I ended up deleting the VM entirely, and was surprised to see it still actually work in a VM, without TPM...
     
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    Microsoft makes the TPM bypass for unsupported PCs official but with lots of warning neowin.com · 1 hour ago 18

    Microsoft officially announces a TPM bypass registry hack that allows users on unsupported PCs to upgrade to Windows 11. The hack has existed for some time and was earlier packaged by a GitHub dev.
     
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    I used the other one with the two keys added to Regedit, not this one.

    But the lack of no option to make a local account even on Pro, and I swear I did click Windows 11 Pro to install, baffles me.
     
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    If you disable/not connect the internet, it should not ask you to login into MS account.
     
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    Maybe test this... Install Windows 11 with a local or Microsoft account

    Install Windows 11 Home with a local account

    From 9:25
    Back in June, when Windows 11 was leaked online, users found that the “next generation of windows” required an internet connection to grab a Microsoft ID. To avoid this, some quick-thinking users found a workaround by pressing “Alt+F4” to kill the process running behind the “Let’s Connect You To A Network” setup page.

    Sadly, Microsoft quickly shut down this work-around of sorts once things went public
    https://hothardware.com/news/windows-11-setup-internet-connection-bypass
     
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    Yeah, it really is very disgusting to look at. The cartoonish look of everything they have released since W8.X forward is a very telling indicator of the unresolved mental state of the Windows developers. It is just another hot and steamy deep-dish colon loaf from the Redmond Reprobates.
     
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    Disable xbox game bar (DVR) overlay (by uninstalling gamebar).

    In Powershell admin:

    Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage

    Haven't tested this method in the video though.

     
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    Here is the proper thread for tweaks Windows 11 Tweaks and Fixes (Index post #1)
     
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    This tweak is the ultimate solution for Windows 10 and 11 atrocities...

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=kb976932
     
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    Yep :) And Microsoft said they will thighen the security screw further forwards. It will be fun with new patches and updates forwards with their new OS :D And I'm sure their partners is damn happy with the new hardened security fixes that doubltly is coming. Less performance means a new HW upgrade cycle will come to all before than later.

    Benchmarked: Do Windows 11’s Security Features Really Hobble Gaming Performance? tomshardware.com 5 hours ago By Paul Alcorn

    How much do they hurt, and how to opt out.

    Wrapping Up

    Microsoft's decision to leave millions of older systems off the Windows 11 upgrade list has earned plenty of criticism, and much of that decision hinged on the performance impact of these types of security features. As a byproduct of targeted hardware-level optimizations, like MBEC, newer chips can handle these types of security measures without as much of a performance loss.

    However, our tests show that you will still see an impact in both gaming and application performance due to the heightened security, and that's even with the newer chips.

    This long nasty list below is latest patches for their latest Win 10 versions. I wonder how long the list will be for Win 11 every months forwards.

    What's new in KB5005611
    • Addresses an issue that changes the device’s current UI language. This occurs during an unattended out-of-box experience (OOBE) language pack installation scenario on a desktop.
    • Addresses an issue that causes the system time to be incorrect by one hour after a daylight saving time (DST) change.
    • Addresses an issue that causes the Server Manager application to disappear after you use it to remove Hyper-V features on Windows Server 2022.
    • Addresses an issue with parsing time formats in event logs. This issue occurs when you exclude milliseconds.
    • Addresses an issue that causes the DnsCache service to increase the CPU usage to 100% utilization. As a result, the device stops responding.
    • Provides administrators the option to reset the zoom to the default for HTML dialogs in Microsoft Edge Internet Explorer mode.
    • Addresses an issue with Enterprise Mode Site List redirection from Internet Explorer 11 to Microsoft Edge. In certain circumstances, the redirection opens a site in multiple tabs in Microsoft Edge.
    • Addresses an issue with PropertyGet in JScript9.dll.
    • Addresses an issue that stops calls to the Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) minidriver for Windows Portable Devices (WPD) devices that you access using WIAMgr.
    • Addresses an issue that causes applications, such as Microsoft Outlook, to suddenly stop responding during normal use. This occurs if the application created and removed UI elements on a background thread that is no longer receiving messages.
    • Addresses an issue with the Microsoft Outlook Add-in that prevents you from providing input after you select Reply.
    • Addresses an issue that fails to keep the NumLock state after a Fast Startup restart.
    • Addresses an issue with sharing a screen using Microsoft Teams. Protected content, such as a digital rights management (DRM) email, appears black for the presenter, but appears transparent for everyone else.
    • Addresses an issue that might prevent drawing on the screen using Windows Context::UpdateRgnFromRects from working.
    • Addresses an issue that always reports the update build revision (UBR) as zero (0) on a device during enrollment to mobile device management (MDM) service.
    • Addresses an issue that might cause distortion in the audio that Cortana and other voice assistants capture.
    • Removes the limitation of 25 maximum Traffic Selectors in the Windows native Internet Key Exchange (IKE) client and server.
    • Addresses an issue that fails to display the smart card PIN dialog when you are connected to a virtual private network (VPN). This issue occurs after upgrading to Windows 10, version 2004.
    • Addresses an issue that causes a memory leak in lsass.exe when the pTokenPrivileges buffer is not released.
    • Addresses an issue with a non-paged pool (NPP) leak from the UxSF pool tag. This leak occurs when lsass.exe stops processing asynchronous Security Support Provider Interface (SSPI) calls.
    • Addresses an issue that prevents the xhunter1.sys driver from loading. As a result, some games cannot run when you enable Hypervisor-Protected Code Integrity (HVCI).
    • Addresses an issue that causes Windows to stop working if you deploy a Code Integrity policy without user mode rules.
    • Improves the performance of MsSense.exe in environments with User Datagram Protocol (UDP) applications that require high amounts of bandwidth.
    • Addresses an input method editor (IME) mode instability in the RemoteApp scenario. You must install this update on the Remote Desktop server and Remote Desktop client.
    • Addresses an issue that causes blurry News and interests icons when you use certain screen resolutions.
    • Addresses a paged pool memory leak of the registry keys for the Virtual Desktop ID that occurs in explorer.exe.
    • Removes a hyperlink that might cause the Input app to stop working when you first enter fuzzy pinyin content.
    • Addresses an activation issue for the Input application.
    • Addresses an issue that causes LogonUI.exe to stop working because Direct Manipulation fails to start.
    • Addresses an issue that causes News and interests to appear in the context menu even when you have disabled it on a device.
    • Addresses an issue that causes the configuration for multiple artifact DB support across datacenters to fail for Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML) artifacts.
    • Addresses an issue that causes the LsaLookupSids() function to fail. This occurs when there are security identifiers (SID) for users that no longer exist in a group that contains cross-domain trusted users.
    • Addresses an issue that fails to apply the post_logout_redirect_uri= parameter when you use an External Claims Provider.
    • Addresses an issue with a deadlock in the WebDav redirector that occurs when it attempts to read a file from the local TfsStore. As a result, the system stops responding.
    • Addresses an issue that causes a stop error after a restart.
    • Addresses an issue that causes apps to lose focus when the taskbar is not at the bottom of the screen.
    • Implements a Group Policy setting for the following registry value:Registry location: HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Printers\PointAndPrint
      Value name: RestrictDriverInstallationToAdministrators
     
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    It is such a joy to exempt myself from their ridiculousness. By refusing to participate in their nonsense, I bypass the endless and unnecessary drama associated with using Windoze in the manner that they would like me to. Even the versions of Windoze that I hate most work reasonably well for me because I don't allow them to molest my system with their update filth. When it ain't broke I don't fix it.
     
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