Windows 11

My understanding is that the reason Rocket Lake's IPC gains didn't really manifest themselves is because of inter-core latency.

I'm glad AVX 512 is going away. That piece of crap just made CPUs draw a crapton more power without doing anything more useful than regular integer operations.

 

Yeah I also think it might be due to that Inter-core latency. As for AVX, yep too much of a power hog for barely any mainstream improvements use cases. But AVX 512 is not junk it has it's place but for us it massively helps brute forcing Emulation for example check below. 11900K is the leader in RPCS3 Emulation, no CPU on the market can beat the performance of that CPU. Don't ask power consumption lol.

 

Just watched the whole event. Basically nothing new. They imitated Apple so hard, felt like ultra cringe, that Panos says Windows is always about understanding past and shills for us to buy the new PC that all the OEMs are making for Win11. It's a joke at this point how he mentions it's all about past. Shameless. Below are takeaways from the event.

New MS Store policies what we heard, Everything is 100% going to the developers all Win32, PWA, UWP support. As a Service monetization support like Adobe CC and etc. This is to improve their pathetic userbase and horribly garbage eye sore UI of that store with massive space waste just like the whole Win11 UI. This is probably to take a jab at Apple for their gated bs.

Whole event they only showed pathetic laptops and Surface trash with some touch UI experiences and that centered Start + Taskbar with same UI changes from the leaked build.

More Bloatware Xbox Game Pass / MS Teams bloatware directly included in the Win11 along with that News panel and etc plus Start is having MS365 integration it seems.

Graphics API is DX12, from the ISO dxdiag it says 2.7 but TechPowerUp GPU-Z screenshots and some news mentions it's WDDM3.0 with some new WSLg, Linux GUI apps support, I'm expecting fall Win10 will also have new WDDM update.

Android apps compat, who tf wants to run Android apps on Windows ? I don't want any of the Android "Apps" because we already have Win32 "Applications" which are inherently superior, remember WinDirStat ? It just works on Windows and helps us to check all the junk or important files. On Android there was one, DiskUsage, but guess what ? Scoped BS Storage on Android10+ makes it useless pos.

Updates are smaller it seems and background, maybe a slight change. I think they did change something on SSE and CU system which reduced the constant all update installation to a single pack now... probably same like Win10.

Nothing for Desktop PC UX. Absolute nothing, why would they when all these use those Surface and other iPad Apple junk.

No upgrade news mentioned as in free update for Win10 / 8.1 / 7 no news, nothing on Secure Boot or other mandatory changes mentioned, except that usual bs of most secure.

No mention of pricing. What is the policy for updates and etc and versions.

What an absolute train wreck, this is just a new coat of paint for those pathetic use and throw BGA machines to sell more and make more money through OEM licensing since it's a new Windows version now with that discarded joke of an UX from 10X project. Purely business made decision and wanted to move away from Win10 marketing and add some more revenue generating and data mining into the mix. This just proves all the talent that made old OSes up until 7 are gone. Only the core Kernel team is alive at this point.

Win32 aint going anywhere, as I personally feel that Win32 is drastically superior to any API on this planet from Operating Systems standpoint that has god tier compatibility and it won the Survival of the Fittest challenge to it. However note that some .exe and DRMs have problems with Win10 and needed updates esp games and etc. Win11 expect more old stuff to break despite the superiority of the NT Kernel Win32 system which many journo fools call it "Legacy". UWP couldn't stand on itself until they made it full Xbox Gamepass Infrastructure platform and now some more partner garbage like Abode will come. It won't change a thing. Only worry is how they break the UI more.


CEO says how Windows is a "Personal" OS and more than OS, hypocrisy at finest when they bombard the user with all their Corporate News / Services / Telemetry / Lack of Local Account creations. They babbled a damn lot for the whole event. On that guy also mentioned "First Version of Windows for next decade" So I'm expecting there will be Win12 at some later point of time.

 

Windows 11 Is Out! Panos Panay Introduces Us to a Centered Start Menu That Puts “You at the Center”


Windows 11 Will Be Required to Run the New DirectStorage API

However, by far the biggest news tidbit is that the upcoming DirectStorage API will be exclusively available on Windows 11.
With a high performance NVMe SSD and the proper drivers, Windows 11 can soon load new games faster than ever thanks to a breakthrough technology called DirectStorage, which we also pioneered as part of the Xbox Velocity Architecture featured in the Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S.

With DirectStorage, which will only be available with Windows 11, games can quickly load assets to the graphics card without bogging down the CPU. This means you’ll get to experience incredibly detailed game worlds rendered at lightning speeds, without long load times. “DirectStorage Optimized” Windows 11 PCs are configured with the hardware and drivers needed to enable this amazing experience.

Windows 11 Will Be a Free Upgrade – Official Requirement Checker Goes Live
After the release of Windows 10 back in 2015, Microsoft had promised free upgrades for eligible devices for one year. However, that offer was extended and continues to work to this day. Now that the company is ready to move on with the introduction of Windows 11, it was expected that it'll still be a free upgrade.

Windows 11 System Requirements – Releasing for Public This Fall with a Free Upgrade Offer

Windows 11 system requirements
Here are the minimum Windows 11 system requirements that confirm that the operating system will be the first that is only made for 64-bit devices.

• 64-bit dual-core processor
• 1Ghz clock speed
• 64GB drive (up from 32GB for Windows 10)
• 4GB RAM
• UEFI, Secure Boot, and TPM 2.0
• 9-inch display
• 1366 x 768 resolution
• DirectX 12 compatible graphics / WDDM 2.x

Yep, as bad it can be

 

This is going to be a big issue for older Notebooks and PC's
You Need TPM 2.0

A simple way to quick check your system for TPM and the version:

Press Windows+R to open a run dialog window.
Type tpm.msc into it and press Enter to launch the tool.

 

Windows 11 is finally going to be updated once a year

Microsoft is also simplifying how support works for each version. With Windows 10, each version got 18 months of support, but the second update in a year would get 36 months of support for Enterprise and Education editions. Now, every update will have 24 months of support for Home and Pro editions, while Enterprise and Education users will get 36 months of support on all releases.For Windows 10 users, Microsoft also explained that the update process to Windows 11 will be similar to a feature update to Windows 10.

A big change from the disaster of Windows 10 update SAC release system. So far nothing on the LTSC front.

 

Windows 11 will let you run Android apps directly on the desktop

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...you-run-android-apps-directly-on-the-desktop/

 

That's still dumb and arbitrary.

 

Maybe touch gaming will be the next? The new OS is crated for the gamers and productivity. Yep, this is the proper way to use your pc. No need for the old fashion mouse or mouse pad anymore. But you'll have to buy a loads of cleaners/paper towels for the screen and your hands and fingers Because slimy screens ain't nice.

And the working position with touch as in the pict is terrible and will lead to an increase in work-related injuries.

 

Apparently my Dell here is 2 years old?



Off to a legit great start.

 

These features are going away with Windows 11

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/these-features-are-going-away-with-windows-11/

 

This is disgusting. I'm happy camper with Enterprise LTSC/Pro but this disgusting move for the cannon fodder is pretty awful. Can this be allowed? I hope this will become as a new case for the EU regulations/laws for privacy concerns. Those of you who can't afford or don't think Pro is worth it and hence paid less, shouldn't lose their privacy. This is against the EU laws.

Amazing this is still accepted by the U.S laws (Microsoft is still a U.S company and have to follow the law makers). Discrimination like this should be caught up of the lawmakers.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

Edit. I can see from the features why they require 64GB storage for the OS. What a Joke.

 

Disgusting, although I wouldn't use Windows Home anyway.

 

Are you all have alpha builds or is there already a normal win 11 build?

 

Angry Emmett's posts is deleted, LOOL https://betanews.com/2021/06/15/download-microsoft-windows-11/#comments

Maybe he finally saw the paint on the wall? No Win 11, LOOL

 

The Taskbar thing kept me worried when the ISO leaked that all the settings were removed and some generic crap options onto Settings UWP system. I couldn't find information on their new Taskbar system changes that they mentioned above, the link for Taskbar Docs they have doesn't apply for Win11 because its not updated yet.

It definitely feels and looks like UWP only system with Win32 wrapped inside for compatibility. Also they mention Apps cannot change Taskbar elements. Not sure how to interpret that only way to interpret is it's not exclusive Shell32 anymore but UWP on top of that.

On a negative take (which is what I'm expecting it to be) that means IF it's 100% absolute on what they meant then StarDock WindowBlinds, StartisBack, Aeroglass and OpenShell need a big overhaul to be able to modify it properly, and work very well with all their options intact. Look here, OpenShell works but not properly with the Win11 leaked ISO. But it's not RTM or Insider Preview so no good news so far.

But like a few shell extension mods for Foobar which I use won't work (It display's progress bar for the track playing, and some customization options for preview small peek that we get on hover, none of them will work on 11 then), here's more info on that Foobar2K extension that I use.

This is sad. With that Taskbar no Labels like Win7 that can be stacked and combined, they had basic rectangles with Aero glow for open applications. That's is fundamental of Windows since Windows 95 to Windows 10 damn it for multitasking. Not just Win7 Aero, every single Windows had that. And they killed it without remorse for some Touch Screen fanatic dumb idiotic hires. Pathetic dumb fools.

This is a big thing. Nobody cares apparently...


Rant ---
If OpenShell and other shell modifiers won't work on this OS. I'm not going to use this at all. This pile of dung only belongs in a dumpster. DX12 DirectStorage can be dumped into same as well, no use on PC since we have DRAM and no speed improvements in gaming for NVMe and SATA SSDs. On top 2025 is still viable and since all games will be DX12 only M$ cannot force some magical BS onto Windows like how they did for Win7 users when Win10 launched. And since all applications will still be Win32 nothing will change for Win10, bonus is LTSC support for 2029 by that damn time, I will be moving to Linux for sure and won't even bother with these dumpster woke games which they are pushing nowadays.
---Rant.

 

Well here's to hoping there will be a few of the stripped down and cleaned iso's here. I just really only got into 10 the last 3 years so that puts me into 2026-27 for 11 or something else altogether. Also 11 has had a meaning that's becoming more and more frightening as we see more and more of it all over, but that's not something I can discuss here that's for sure.

 

Thanks to W11 release Linux is looking ever more tempting. It's interesting to note that apparently decent UV and GPU OC tools are available.

 

They kill support for own hardware so they can sell new junk. Some said that Apple is bad. But this take the whole cake.




Microsoft won't allow many older Surface devices to upgrade to Windows 11 pcworld.com

Microsoft's minimum hardware requirements will prevent many of its own older Surface devices, including most Surface Pro tablets, from upgrading to Windows 11.

Of the 25 Surface device families that Microsoft has shipped to date, only 13 will be eligible for Windows 11. Most of Microsoft’s Surface Pro tablets won’t be eligible for an upgrade. Microsoft didn’t list the Surface Hub or Surface Studio among those eligible for an upgrade, either. Simply put, if you own a Surface device that was shipped before 2017, chances are that your device won’t be eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade.


And you'll need a new ssd for the DirectStorage feature if you went the cheap route and bought a smaller NVMe ssd when you bought your computer. Is this a Joke or a typo?

Windows 11 and 1 TB SSD Will Be Required for DirectStorage on PC

[UPDATE] It looks like having an NVMe SSD with 1 TB or greater capacity will be required as well to use DirectStorage on Windows 11, according to the official specifications.

• DirectStorage requires 1 TB or greater NVMe SSD to store and run games that uses the "Standard NVM Express Controller" driver and a DirectX 12 Ultimate GPU.

This is curious since the Xbox Series S only has half that capacity and supports the new API just fine. We've contacted Microsoft for clarification and will update this story if and when we hear back.

Edit.
Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors docs.microsoft.com

Hardware and Software Requirements docs.microsoft.com
Hardware Requirements
There are new minimum hardware requirements for Windows 11. In order to run Windows 11, devices must meet the following specifications. Devices that do not meet the hard floor cannot be upgraded to Windows 11, and devices that meet the soft floor will receive a notification that upgrade is not advised.

Hard Floor:

• CPU: Core >= 2 and Speed >= 1 GHz
• System Memory: TotalPhysicalRam >= 4 GB
• Storage: 64 GB
• Security: TPM Version >= 1.2 and SecureBootCapable = True
• Smode: Smode is false, or Smode is true and C_ossku in (0x65, 0x64, 0x63, 0x6D, 0x6F, 0x73, 0x74, 0x71)

Soft Floor:

• Security: TPMVersion >= 2.0
• CPU Generation

 

Yesterday's Plan B will become tomorrow's Plan A. PCs that run Windoze XI will be a glorified and overpriced XBOX kiosk for idiots and Facebook zombies.

Designed by worthless trash (people) to run on pathetic trash (hardware). May the torment of their cursed souls last for an eternity.

 

hi
,.what is the reason why win11 does not support cpu like 6-7TH ??

 

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TPM 2.0 for their Secure Boot BS. They already backtracked on it from 2.0 to 1.2, not even that they removed support for all AMD parts upto Ryzen 2000 as well. Still you can install Win11 onto your machine as long as you can run it with full secure boot and UEFI (no GPT) with install.wim from Win11 ISO to Win10 ISO, there's a video also posted in this thread only.... This is going to kick off a lot of products of the market forcing them to upgrade, I believe this nefarious scum move is coming from Intel, they are neck deep in this M$, also xHCI USB 3.0 drivers were removed from MS update itself for Windows 7 for Intel 6th gen and up hardware.

Windows 10 worked on all machines, which are way old from XP days too. But since MS got all the data they required by datamining from the Win10 installations. They do not need that "junk" (as per them ofc) anymore. Also remember more Thin and Light machines will sell than Desktops so more hardware for braindead consumers. So now you gotta upgrade for their new upgraded experience which is pathetically awful and downgraded Mac / Linux / Tablet mish mash hybrid with no visual and technical direction leadership.

EDIT
@Mr. Fox I have a question for you on the same note of Secure Boot requirements. Can we please know if you installed it onto VM or a HDD/SSD and what BIOS did you run it on. Like for instance if Windows 11 needs Secure Boot ON + Full UEFI, doesn't that mean we have to disable the CSM option ROM from the BIOS, which means any MBR based installation and specifically Windows 7 itself won't be able to boot at all. So that means if we want to boot Windows 11 every time we dual boot out of Windows 7 we have to disable the CSM ?

Damn they are retroactively killing Windows 7 and all installations based on CSM out of existence but at this rate of mandatory requirements and forcing the Skylake and AMD Ryzen 2000 owners out many dumb people using laptops and desktops won't even know how to bypass, this will net them a TON of Cash for OEMs and M$ Win11 licensing alike and datamine more. God knows what Intel will put into new Management Engine and AMD into PSP subsystems on the PCH and Chipsets...Microsoft is really the most evil corporation out there, on par with Apple and Google. Perfect Trifecta of Hellish cancer.

Also younger dumb people do not have basic knowledge of these aspects of an OS forget these they barely know anything remotely related to Control Panel... they only know how to write a java code and use TikTok along while consuming Netflix and IG. These all corporations push the same nonsense of making things "Simpler" meaning dumbing down everything so that people are unaware of anything remotely and only fit to consume not tinker or understand.

 

I have the BIOS set to Legacy (not UEFI with CSM, but true Legacy) mode. I installed to a Silicon Power 2.5 inch 1TB SATA SSD. My drives are always formatted using an MBR partition table unless they are larger than 2TB. I did not change any settings from the way I run it booting Windows 7 and Linux using GRUB bootloader. I also have the Intel ME disabled in the BIOS, since it offers absolutely nothing that serves any functional purpose from my user perspective. Just an extra worthless piece of crap malware to suck up CPU clock cycles and introduce unwarranted device driver overhead.

I only tested it for a couple of days. It was too crappy to stick with it any longer than that. It put me in a bad mood too much to continue wasting my time farting around with it. Even if it offered better performance, it is just so effing ugly and functionality I use was removed, so they can stuff this disgusting touchscreen turdbook/tablet/smartphone OS downgrade up their poop chute.

It probably does. They exist in a state of utter reprobation. They lie constantly about everything. They said 8th, 9th and 10th Gen CPUs wouldn't work or function correctly under Windows 7, but that was an absolute lie designed to get gullible people to switch to Windoze 10. The only thing that doesn't work is their dishonesty and underhanded behavior. That should lead them to extinction because they don't deserve to survive. Dishonest gangsters don't deserve to stay in business. I hope their cartel goes belly up.

 

Thanks !! So that explains, if we install it with install.wim trick Win11 will work absolutely fine on Legacy Mode itself not even UEFI+CSM. So M$ tried so hard but Windows by design is such a powerful OS in modularity of ISO customization they couldn't do it.

I do remember about ME Disabling from EVGA mobo, their BIOS seems to be superb in that aspect, ability to disable IntelME. Luumi also made a video to make WindowsXP work on Z490 Dark, M$ and Intel and AMD all these goons lie flatout when they want those money....cheap moves. But unlike Apple the HW itself is not castrated so we can install the Windows 7 onto these no matter what they peddle.

 

I have Intel ME disabled in the BIOS on my Tongfang turdbooks and my ASUS Mobo as well. The EVGA X299 Dark and Z490 Dark are superior to any others I have owned.

The challenges with W7 are only driver-related and these are deliberately fabricated problems intended to support a nefarious underlying agenda. There are no real hardware limitations.

 

For those of you who want avoid Microsoft's buggy Health check software for Win 11 comptibility....

We recommend the freeware WhyNotWin11, which does what Microsoft should have here. This software is open source and will be updated.


Microsoft is working on a fix for the PC Health Check app, first update scheduled for today · 10 hours ago 37

If you were excited to test drive Windows 11 but received an error saying "Your PC can't run Windows 11", do not worry as Microsoft has acknowledged the issue and is looking into the problem.

Yep, they can't do it right. A $2 trillion dollar company struggle make an small app. This doesn't bode well for Win 11.

They fail in everything. Most secure OS ever and they can't do it right. I installed Win 11 on a smaller ssd than the requirements. Secure boot and TPM disabled. Skylake Cpu.

Yeah, Win 11 is designed around own disgusting hardware/Jokebooks.


Microsoft: Windows 11 immensely improves Surface Pro X touch friendliness
Sayan Sen · 2 hours ago 12

Microsoft today detailed some of the ways how Windows 11 has been designed to improve the way it works with Surface Pro X. There are enhancements to the touch friendliness, and much more.

 

Seriously, just fired up Ubuntu 21.04. Unlike on previous attempts, everything works out of the box on my AW m15, incl. WiFi 6. Battery life much better. Undervolting works. Netflix, Spotify, Brave.. no probs. I'm installing in celebration of W11 release lol.

 

Of course, SecureBoot is off with Legacy Boot on, but only due to the fact my system's panel doesn't light up until it's in Windows. Although this only happens if I leave SG on. Turning it off yields a proper boot though.



I've not figured out why that's the case, but I have some hope, just without SG? IDK.

 

People are crazy. Spend money when they already have Win 10 only to get this so called free Apple similar Touch friendly OS Upgrade is pure stupidity. Nothing amaze me anymore

Windows 11 May Spark Scalping for TPM2.0 Chips, a Requirement To Run the OS pcmag.com

The price for TPM 2.0 modules soared for two eBay listings after Microsoft disclosed the security chip is necessary to run Windows 11, which begins rolling out this holiday season.

Microsoft Doesn’t Want You to Upgrade to Windows 11 pcmag.com
Yes, TPM affords more security for your PC, but that’s not why it’s required for Windows 11.

Shut Out of Windows 11: TPM Requirement Excludes Many PCs tomshardware.com

This is a sea change for Microsoft, because the company has previously prioritized new OS adoption over most else. In fact, the company was likely disappointed when it took two years longer than expected to reach 1 billion active monthly devices for Windows 10. With Windows 11, it’s going to take a lot longer and, as with Android devices, there’s likely to be more computers running older operating systems than the latest one for years and years to come. That’s bad news for users and developers.

Bifurcated Windows
At some point it was inevitable that Microsoft would stop supporting really old hardware and, by most accounts, the minimum requirements for Windows 11 are really minimal. However, the TPM requirement by itself may force a lot of people with five year old PCs to either stick with Windows 10 or upgrade to new computers.

The cynic in me says that Microsoft and OEMs are looking for reasons to drive a new PC upgrade cycle. But it’s also inevitable that, to guarantee a decent user experience with graphical features like rounded edges and translucent window widgets or modern security features like secure boot, you need to up your requirements. Just don’t expect to see Windows 11 hit 1 billion active devices any time soon.

 

It is none of their business what hardware people are using or how they choose to configure the firmware on it. If they were producing a respectable product it wouldn't matter. What goes around comes around. I hope they go bankrupt, lose everything and go out of business. People and hardware manufacturers should stop supporting their technology cartel. This company truly deserves to die because of how corrupt they have become. Some people won't like it, but they'll switch to Linux, learn to use it and move on with a life free of Micro$lop cancer.

I feel really sorry for the people that are so incredibly stupid that they are going to pay for TPM 2.0 modules just so they can have the "privilege" of downgrading to an inferior OS. They should be standing against evil rather than acting like feckless, subservient serfs.

 

This is the only reason for the requirements. There's no actual hardware limitation.

It's like what Apple does. They put in software locks to keep you from installing certain software on certain OS versions, or to keep you from upgrading your OS. Fortunately these are very easy to override if you have the knowledge like we do. Once forced to install, the software usually works. Having a hackintosh is pretty awesome.

As someone who likes MacOS, I think Apple is a very bad influence on the rest of the tech industry. Don't be like Apple.

This whole forced upgrade crap is probably going to backfire on them, and I really hope it does. Most people are content with their hardware upwards of 8 years since it does what they need it to do. They're not going to be buying new devices anytime soon. This move will probably just make them want to hold onto their hardware longer.

 

It'd be just easier to omit the requirement for TPM 2.0, let alone 1.2. If you want a userbase to stick with you, don't do an action that's bound to shoot yourself in the feet with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Unlike desktops where you can use fTPM or a TPM 2.0 module, it's not easy as that for laptops if they're using hardware TPM that's older than 1.2 or none at all.

 

Win 11 is in short same OS as Win 10. Microsoft don't bother spend time on whiners that can't update and will be happy regardless what people use. Remember both OS shell use exactly the same Microsoft Store... https://mspoweruser.com/windows-11-microsoft-store-on-windows-10/

And there is not much more work for the patch team maintaining both OS as both is built on same fundation.

Microsoft: “Windows 11 Is Built on the Same Foundation as Windows 10,” Designed to Coexist

Same foundations - Windows 11 will be deployed like Windows 10
"Since Windows 11 is built on the same foundation as Windows 10, you can use the same deployment capabilities, scenarios, and tools - as well as the same basic deployment strategy that you use today for Windows 10," the note reads.

 

That begs the question: what was the point of releasing Windows 11?

 

I expect Microsoft is in bed with Intel as bro @Ashtrix pointed out. The new hybrid (phone) processors from Intel need a boost in sales. And Apple release a new OS every year. I'm sure Microsoft saw that the 10 year with same OS version isn't any good. New build numbers ain't the same. They need show up some thunder to sell more new Surface Jokebooks. Exactly as Apple! + Microsoft have spent a lot time on Win 10x. Of course it had to be an Win 11 version.

Microsoft was planning to ship Windows 10X, a simplified version of Windows made for dual-screen devices, on its Surface Neo device. The company quickly pivoted toward promising Windows 10X for laptops once the pandemic began and then eventually reworked the OS into Windows 11.​

You of all should by now see that Microsoft stealing other clothes. The new Taskbar and rounded corners is an reminder what way Microsoft pushing forwards.

Windows 11 may seem like Windows 10 with a fancy skin, but Android app emulation could be a boon for Microsoft's Surface Pro and Surface Pro X series. If Microsoft pulls it off, it could finally provide Apple and its iPad Pro tablets with serious competition.


Windows 11: Microsoft has the opportunity to unlock the potential of the Surface Pro and Surface Pro X as true iPad Pro competitors notebookcheck.net


Microsoft wants Steam to be part of its new Windows 11 app store thewerge.com June 25

Microsoft’s Panos Panay on building Windows 11 during a pandemic, Android, and the leak thewerge.com June 25

The Windows 11 leak ‘was some early weird build’

The big Windows 11 leak earlier this month was never part of Microsoft’s plan. Developers at the company have spent the majority of the pandemic working from home and secretly building a new version of Windows that’s designed for a post-pandemic era. “It didn’t really leak. It was some early weird build,” says Microsoft’s Windows and devices chief Panos Panay in an interview with The Verge. “It didn’t matter, when something like that gets out incomplete, you’re like: okay.”

Yep, some of you remember Angry Emmett the beta tester who know everything on betanews.com comment section? He said this was a fake OS from the internet and not from M$. This leak was a preview what to come. And directly from Microsoft.

 

All are built on Vista. Windows 7 was an upgrade to Vista. By the time it reached SP1 it was the best OS in Micro$lop's history and that is still true today. Windows 8.X was a downgrade to Windows 7. It impaired performance and introduced the ugliest GUI in Micro$lop's history. Windows 10 was an upgrade to Windows 8.X GUI, but they did nothing to correct the performance impairments. The Windows 10 GUI maintained much of the 8.X ugliness but softened the most offensive elements. Windows 11 is a downgrade to Windows 10, which allows less end-user freedom, and functionality is reduced. It is also a downgrade to the already tacky Windows 10 GUI.

Control. Manipulation. Desensitization. They need to reach the bottom before they can show any signs of improvement.

 

WhyNotWin11 is updated to v2.1.0.0 with more Hardware detections. And yep, the Red flag doesn't bother me My Clevo P870 laptop is from 2015 but Win 11 is not on my wish list. Not even close.

• Install Windows 11 without TPM and Secure Boot

Microsoft updates Windows 11 requirements, says TPM 2.0 is required windowslatest.com - June 26, 2021

Microsoft has officially confirmed Windows 11 is a free upgrade for those running Windows 10. While you can upgrade your existing devices to the new operating system, Microsoft has announced new system requirements for Windows 11 and some new requirements can be a dealbreaker for you.

In a new update to the same document, Microsoft admitted that TPM 1.2 (hard floor detention) was a mistake and TPM 2.0 is a minimum requirement.


Edit.
For NBR's Alienware and Dell's boys and girls.

Dell computers tested for upgrade to Windows 11

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/...r-new-windows-tested-systems#Alienware-NB-W11

 

Yup. If it looks like a smartphone, acts like a smartphone, and sucks like a smartphone... it's Windows 11.

Windows 11 lets you run Android apps directly in the OS.

 

Now even a high quality webcam is mandatory.
https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-webcam-mandatory/

 

OEMs: Hmm, sales could be better. Computers these days are so powerful they last average users a decade! The volume is in low margin Chromebook garbage. Why do people even buy this spyware

Microsoft: We have an idea, dearest partners. The old "new Windows" trick coupled with the irresistible "free uograde/more spyware" trap. It's a win-win! Let's get those money bags ready friends

 

So much for Windows' equality. None of my devices have it at all so... Alright Microsoft it's been nice knowing you.

 

With Microsoft blocking Skylake and Kaby Lake yet allowing architecturally identical Coffee Lake, and doing the same thing for Zen+ vs Zen CPUs & APUs, I just have no wrods... they can go **** themselves!

 

Till yesterday Skylake and Kabylake were supported! Ok it saves me tons of Gigabytes of trying to download Win 11.
Why do other company follow Apple's bad policy like restricting old devices from OS upgrade for Intel CPUs.
I will stay on Win 10 even after 2025 while my newer BGA might run Win 11.

 

Once again owning an EOL laptop has paid off for me!

 

Windows Vista and 7 got together and adopted the bastard son of a MAC running Sierra. Very fugly. I don't care what it does, since visually, MAC OS is ugly, Vista was ugly and the my-little-pony Windows 7 color scheme wasn't any better. Mixing them together just makes things worse.

 

Its a lot of info to take in all at once and im still trying to catch up but basically Windows 11 is a sh*ttier version of Windows 10 with more restrictions.

RIP over 50% of the PC Market that dont have the hardware to support Windows 11 including Microsoft's own surface devices.

At least the comment section of their own video is pretty entertaining

 

Microsoft does not differentiate between Intel or AMD.

AMD introduced the first 64-bit consumer CPU on September 23, 2003. On June 24, 2021, Microsoft announced the next version of its OS would be 64-bit only. It took Microsoft no less than 18 years to make that jump. When it comes to locking out $2,000 CPUs, however, it only took a bit under two years.

Read the whole Extremtech article. Enjoyable trip into total madness!

Windows 11 May Not Run on Early Ryzen, Threadripper, or Skylake-X PCs extremetech.com

As long you have a newer phone processor from ARM in your Tablet or the weakest Cpu from 8th gen in the smallest laptop in the world you are almost good to go.

Yep, a newer wimpy ARM phone processor gets the love…

Never before has Microsoft declared that huge swathes of the existing CPU market simply would not be allowed to upgrade to the latest version of its operating system. The Core i9-9980XE is less than two years old.

And Microsoft still sell $5000 usd Surface Jokebooks that won't get the approved Win 11 stamp.


Microsoft won't allow Windows 11 on many older Surface devices pcworld.com

Microsoft's minimum hardware requirements will prevent many of its own older Surface devices, including most Surface Pro tablets, from upgrading to Windows 11.

While Microsoft has implied that you’ll want to upgrade to Windows 11 with these cool, unexpected Windows 11 features, it’s also implied that you’ll have plenty of time to keep working on Windows 10 if you’d like. Windows 10 will go out of support and into “retirement” in 2025. Still, for a PC industry that thrives on supporting legacy devices, it’s disappointing—especially if you’ve invested in a premium Surface device and hoped to get some more mileage out of it.

I really hope this new move from Microsoft will open up the Surface Jokebook owners eyes so they will say no thanks to next Jokebook from Microsoft Store.

 

Windows 11 is just one example of what happens when really bad and super-stupid people are given (or usurp) the power to make decisions that affect others. What is most stupefying is there will be people that go out and purchase a crippled new POS computer so they can run Windows 11 when they don't actually need to. That is most likely part of their sinister plan. The second most stupefying thing is the idea that some people actually think they "need" Windows 11. It will most likely be the same group of muppets that thought they "needed" Windows 8, 8.X, and 10. We cannot really say they don't know any better at this point; only that they're simply too stupid to figure it out. They never learn from their mistakes, so they are doomed to repeat them.

 

Does this match?



Btw. Expect Win 11 to be the most hacked Win OS in history.....

https://twitter.com/BeyondGrave/status/1408775205850394625?s=20

Microsoft want you as Guinea pig for Win 11 although your hardware doesn't meet the minimum requirements. Maybe they will use the info for the future Win 10 builds? Remember Win 11 is in short Win 10 but in more disgusting Apple shell. This is too dumb.

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-i...ing-for-insider-preview-builds-of-windows-11/

Edit.
WhyNotWin11 is updated to v2.2.1.0 (a better tool than what you get from Microsoft's own engineers clowns )


The The M$ muppets own software is still bugged... https://windowsreport.com/pc-health-check-app-crash/

Microsoft try force people to throw away their 2-4 years old computers with new hardware due their new coming touch friendly OS, but can not keep it clean in own nest.

Microsoft admits to signing rootkit malware in supply-chain fiasco bleepingcomputers.com

Microsoft has now confirmed signing a malicious driver being distributed within gaming environments. This driver, called "Netfilter," is in fact a rootkit that was observed communicating with Chinese command-and-control IPs.

You're not going to get a Windows 11 upgrade until next year betanews.com

You've probably noticed that there has been an absolute glut of Windows 11 news in recent days. After Microsoft officially announced the upcoming version of its operating system, there has been excitement, analysis, disappointment, leaks, and much more.

And today, Microsoft has delivered some bad news. While Windows 11 is being released later this year, if you're currently running Windows 10, you're going to have to wait until 2022 to get your free upgrade(only if you have the newest of the newest hardware).


Windows 11 CPU restriction to the latest - an installation will still be possible
good Morning June 26, 2021 11:54 am 63 comments
With the three lists for the supported CPUs for Windows 11 you have scored an own goal. According to the list, many who still have an older CPU will be excluded from upgrading to Windows 11. But this is not the case.…

Yep a nasty mix of mess. Time will tell.