Windows 11

Welcome to the Matrix. How deep does the rabbit hole go? Are you going to choose the red pill or the blue pill?

Micro$lop is playing mind games with their emo fanbois. Who wants to play? Anyone excited about putting up with this stupid bull feces?

 

funny is this cpu support ,..,will see in final release
,.but for 7th cpu --impossible install win11

"tested" on
GT75 7RE ,.,.TPM 2 /UEFI/secureboot/GPT/latest ME FW .,,.but old 7820HK

 

Yeah, touch screen for desktops/laptops is insane if you've got a mouse at your disposal - mouse to screen interaction is massively more efficient than any kind of touch related gestures, and all at the flick of a wrist or minute movement of your fingertips - as opposed to the "reaching your arm out to smear your screen" option, lol! touch for smartphones, mouse for desktop, yes please!

 

Yep, and only God or Microsoft know what info you as users of their new rounded corners Spybox OS will send to Microsoft servers for later user experience targeted ads.

One thing Microsoft didn't discuss: Windows 11 privacy windowscentral.com

Android apps, forced Microsoft accounts, telemetry, oh my God

In Microsoft's Windows 11 blog post, the word "privacy" doesn't appear once in the copy, which doesn't exactly bode well for its messaging. Windows 11 will force users to use a Microsoft Account in its free Home Edition, which already speaks of a business model where your data is the monetization engine.

Since Windows 11 will essentially require a Microsoft account for most users, data harvesting is part of the package. Microsoft always says this is to enhance the user experience, and on the face of it that certainly seems to be true. In Windows 11, you'll be able to continue editing cloud files per its algorithmically populated "Recommended" section in the new Start Menu. Your browser history will sync between Edge on PC and Edge on mobile, as it already does. Your Skype and Teams conversations will sync as you'd expect too, and your Windows 11 features will migrate to new PCs if you upgrade.

 

So, I work in public transportation, rail to be specific. I'm bringing this up because I think there's an interesting comparison between how my agency does business and how M$ is managing the release of this OS.

We don't have any idea how people use our service. Our ticket system is based on a window of time between any two points on our system, meaning, if you buy a ticket you can ride any train on our system that operates between two points of your choosing. I've done a fairly in-depth analysis of this and concluded that you cannot make any substantive service-related decisions unless you know where people are getting on the trains and where they are getting off. How does my agency build the service schedule? Completely shooting from the hip. We create service and hope folks will use it (if you build it, they will come approach) rather than actually looking at how people use our service and making corrections based on those trends.

I'm sure you can see where this is going. M$ isn't interested in the copious amounts of data they've harvested so far, which baffles me. They could make a case that all of this collection is actually being used to do something if Win11 was reflective of our actual use patterns or included stuff that users always do. Examples are; not using the built-in web browser. Using VLC. Disabling privacy-invasive nonsense. Trimming what applications start up automatically. If Win11 changed default behavior of what applications get to start automatically, didn't endlessly pester about using Bing, offered media players that were worth a crap, to name a few.

M$ is acting like my agency. They have the data but they aren't using it, or worse are intentionally ignoring what it's pointing at. They could use it to provide a service that is wanted or needed, but instead believe they know better than us plebes and can make everyone happy by giving us what makes them happy. No modern OS works in a service silo of "if we build it, they will come" mentality. I never asked for Teams, of all things, to be baked into the OS and I'm pretty damn sure no one else did either. This whole thing smells like some executive got a bright idea in a board meeting and no one there had the guts to tell him/her that it was going to be an absolute mess.

Instead, M$ has decided, for everybody, that you will need to upgrade your hardware in 2026, if you fall into that category of user. They've decided, for everybody, that DX12 is the display API going forward, regardless of how buggy it is, or how much better Vulkan is.

Well, Linux never looked better. With GPU pass-through looking solid on that end, a Windows VM for any titles that Linux can't manage will be the way to go.

 

Exactly this. Well said, bro.

 

Funny thing pointed out by Linus: MS revealed a window auto - tiling feature in W11 as world's first, whereas actually it's already available in Linux (e. g. Gnome in the latest Pop! OS)

 

More fun facts from Redmond regarding different Hardware Requirements depending on what countries it will be used in..


Windows 11 to Ship Without TPM Requirement for 'Special Purpose' SystemsNot all Windows 11 installs are created equal tomshardware.com | Today

Not all Windows 11 installs are created equal

Microsoft infused Windows 11 with an onerous new requirement that blocks any system without support for Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0 tech from installing its new operating system, but it turns out the company will allow shipping some systems without TPM enabled. Unfortunately, normal users probably won't have access to the installation ISOs or workaround used for those builds, though it's conceivable that we could see them leak to the public. Instead, these special builds are likely tailored for use in countries like China and Russia that don't use Western encryption technologies.

Now the company has clarified that some systems will work without any flavor of TPM, which will certainly make the requirement seem superfluous to detractors. Microsoft lays out the full system requirements in its 'Windows 11 Minimum Hardware Requirements document ( Warning - PDF), with the sixteen-page document giving us a much deeper look at the nuts and bolts of the OS than the basic version Microsoft published previously.

 

Only Kool-Aid drinking shills seek the "approval" of reprobates. Those that have functional reproductive organs do as they please without seeking approval, permission, or blessing. The mere fact that they have a self-anointed position of arbiter concerning matters that are absolutely none of their business demonstrates how deep their corrupt quest for control is rooted. Such efforts should be resisted and thwarted. We should never bow, bend a knee or acquiesce to their Digi-Nazi nonsense. Defiance is the only path that leads to freedom.

 

It fitted well with fall release of Win 11 that both Nvidia and AMD kill driver support for Win 7 this summer. AMD killed it with latest beta driver. Probably with blessings and thanks from Microsoft.


No official Windows 11 support for any Intel Mac devices windowsreport.com

Intel Mac devices will not officially support Microsoft's new operating system, because of the lack of support for the TPM 2.0.

 

Maybe they thought nobody would notice their sleight of hand.

 

So about this TPM...

Remember Windows Defender old news that M$ is going to scan your BIOS constantly, UEFI scanner brings Microsoft Defender ATP protection to a new level, notice the fine print of needing Secure Boot. The TPM 2.0 basically makes these computers, "Secure Core" as per M$, Secure Core documentation here mentioning the same. So that means all the notorious bs that this drama is due to M$ making their tentacles spread into your core hardware components, as if Intel ME / AMD PSP are not enough for the blackbox backdoor systems. This time from the OS level itself, fingerprint every single machine on the planet.

Basically once anyone is going to install this OS without DISM modifications to the ISO. They are allowing hardware control of the Personal Computer, no going back. I see this TPM thing on Youtube, mainstream blogs, discord, reddit everywhere. Some people are smart to not upgrade a.k.a downgrade some people are going to buy these TPM modules, some people which are highest in numbers a.k.a normies and masses are going to buy the Win11 certified systems esp those Home versions with mandatory MS account and telemetry to max.

EVGA / ASUS and maybe more mobo OEMs make it clear to us in disabling such garbage spyware, at-least on the current system, but on mobile unfortunately there's no CSM option on the X170 Clevo and even Prema cannot help it. So it's going to be horrible, as they were beating BIOS EOL drum. Dell also has that PCH cancer guard on A51M machines, expect them to incorporate all sort of lockdown.

M$ is going full Orwellian. Not surprising since nowadays we have witnessed massive M&A with absolutely no friction at all. Disney buying out Fox for $71.3Billion, ATT buying out WB for $85Billion and now Discovery network for $43Billion, Apple is sneaky with small but a large portion of the startups, Amazon, Google also etc.

Prepare for the worse from now on, as that CEO was saying "Next generation of Windows for the next decade", insane brainwashing is coming through the roof and all holes.

 

Orwellian, indeed. Hitlerian and Luciferian as well. All harbingers of darkness cloaked behind a pastel-colored cartoon puke façade that is carefully crafted to be titillating to the zombie kiddos.

 

All of us need to be linux(or other open OS) supporters and developers if we have the capability get ready for it now.

 

+Reps. As someone who was on an extended break from Linux on a laptop (with a couple of quick intermediate attempts to see where things were), I'm amazed at the current state of affairs. The barrier to entry has never been lower. The Pop!_OS kernel appears to have really comprehensive hardware support out of the box, including AX210 WiFi, a USB DAC. Even support for dreaded Nvidia hybrid graphics is built right into the distro. Literally the only things that did not work for me were a cheap Anker USB-C hub and an old printer in need of replacement. Indeed, just need to pop a live USB in to get a taste of freedom from MS and a rather refreshing computing experience.

 

Thx, yeah that's been the largest reason for just sticking with windows: easy setup and compatibility with pretty much everything, a few years ago I tried to put mint on my netbook and it would always freeze up during installation so left a bad taste in my mouth. Also gaming another huge deterrant to linux, my non gaming cousin has used linux for over a decade and has all the modern conveniences of windows afaik. Of course almost every pc new comes with the latest windows too, that's a real big reason, only ones I've seen personally where you could have linux loaded were the old Precision series always had that option new.

 

Totally agree.

 

So are you telling me that the beastly P870KM1 laptop I got in October of 2017 from HIDEvolution cant upgrade to 11? Wake me up when the bypass comes out. I'll make Windows 11 the daily driver of my 2011 Dell if I have to lol.

 

Fixed that typo for you, bro.

The "incompatibility' is a total fabrication, which is just a technical-sounding word for "lie" LOL.

If you really want cancer on your P870, replace the install.wim (or install.esd) from the Windows 10 ISO with the newer one from Windows 11 and away you go. It will install without checking for any of the silly made-up prerequisite nonsense.

I installed W11 cancer on a desktop with Legacy BIOS, MBR drive, no TPM, and Intel ME disabled. I road-tested it a couple of days to confirm it was a cursed piece of crap, then restored my Macrium image to undo the mess.

 

Hah I like my Clevos cancer free. Its kind of hilarious cause I just maxed out all the drive bays on this laptop; I just put in a 1TB NVME SSD a few months ago. Might just use the original SSD to run Linux.

 

Their upgrade readiness tools have never been accurate, so there's that as well. I remember when Windows 10 was a new thing back in 2015. Their upgrade readiness utility always said that Windows 10 could not be installed on my computer because GTX 780M was not compatible. It absolutely was compatible. There were no complications of any kind. Unless, of course, you counted having the EDID on the laptop display corrupted, which will brick a Dell with an 8-beep/no boot condition. The latter is a special feature, exclusive to Dell. It also happened to a Clevo I owned, but it did not brick the Clevo

 

TPM 2.0 = GOOD
6700HQ CPU = BAD
Oh boy these clowns at Microsoft better find a nicer excuse to exclude a barely 6 years old CPU

 

Well, I think this is one of the few cases where M$ is correct

 

If i had another choice back then i would've gone full desktop, at least Microsoft is pushing me into the right direction, away from these turdbooks

 

Yeah, my old 6700hq started showing its age after around the 3 year mark from its release. Maybe M$ knows how bad these chips were, and are doing us a favor.

3.1ghz all cores on a “high end” mobile chip

 

Not everyone is a gamer?

 

Yeah, I know. I’m not saying it was bad for gaming, just saying it was a bad CPU in general and that it’s quite funny to me that these CPU’s are excluded from running Win11.

 

Perhaps they are choosing to exclude processors that lack built-in hardware mitigations for exploits like Spectre and Meltdown. Or, maybe they are just randomly making stupid decisions. Probably the latter, since it fits their modus operandi.

6700HQ was kind of wimpy the day it was released. But, there is nothing inherently wrong with it apart from being BGA. It is otherwise fine for laptops that people use for work. It doesn't need to be any more powerful than it is for most laptop owners.

 

The 6700Hq aka Skylake was approved for Win 10. Isn’t that nice? When Win 10 become a reality the Haswell processors wasn’t even approved for the free upgrade (didn’t meet Redmonds hardware requirement specs). As you can see, nothing haven changed since Win 10 was released. If none with older processors can’t upgrade, this means Win 11 will be the most hacked Win in history. Thee security claims will be flushed down the toilet pretty fast.

 

The Windows 11 Insider Preview build 10.0.22000.51 is now live.
Downloading now!

 

Give me a link bro

 

Nice. Please let us know if it is any less repulsive, feature-reduced, or crippled than the unacceptable leaked version. Hopefully, it is not as horrible as the broken POS that I tested for a couple of days. I could not leave it installed because it was just too crappy to put up with.

 

If you don't want to deal with the new nasty start menu in Win 11....

Using the Open Shell Menu under Windows 11 - Instructions
good Morning June 28, 2021 deskmodder.de

With Windows 11, Microsoft also redesigned the taskbar. A lot was thrown out and the position is now firmly down. More on this in the tutorial on our wiki. There are some who use the Open Shell Menu (formerly Classic Shell) and also want to use it under Windows 11. But here you have to pay attention to something after you have installed the external start menu. Because after the installation no start menu is displayed.....

 

If you're signed up to receive Insider Preview builds on the developer channel you can get it.
There's no link.

 

Downloading it now via UUP

 

What's the point?

 

OK...

 

Well, the endless supply of lies is starting to be unloaded from the Micro$oft garbage truck.

• Brings you closer to what you love.
• Your content, curated by you.

Hmm, so how do they explain the Secure Boot and TPM filth? I hate, not love, both of those things, and requiring them prevents me from having the content that I want. It would be entertaining to put them on the spot and ask them to quantify both of those random marketing statements. It's clear that they believe that average consumers are stupid. And, they may be right.

Spoiler: Bombardament of Lies

 

I'm hearing potential reneges on their requirements. In their blog posts they go "we will test on 7th gen intel and Zen 1" then remove the part that says 6th gen is dead. Microsoft get your heads on straight, cause you literally don't have one.

 

OK, let us know if it is any less screwed up than the 21996.1.210529-1541.co_release_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_en-us.iso was.

 

The UI looks like a really bad MacOS rip off. How I miss Vista/7 aero days.....

 

Windows 11 Media Creation Tool

 

It is a rather hideous UI and has fewer configuration options than previous versions of Windows for those that would like to take matters into their own hands to correct the atrocities. Hopefully, third-party utilities and registry hacks that should not be necessary will be able to make it more palatable. Removing functionality and limiting user configuration options seems to be an unwanted trend that follows them from version to version. It makes no sense that they do this kind of thing on purpose. It really raises legitimate questions about their integrity.

 

Looks like MS removed Administrative Tools from the Control Panel in the Insider Preview build 10.0.22000.51
After the Preview build was downloaded and installed there was a cumulative update from the check for updates.

 

I could not find it anywhere in the leaked version either. It really sucks how they are making it harder and harder for people to access settings and configuration options. To call the architects of this dumbing down of Windows horrible people seems like an understatement. Nearly 100% of the hate they get is self-inflicted and deserved based on repeated demonstrations of poor judgment.

 

Can you open Task manager from the taskbar in this build?

Microsoft has posted clarification about the confusion surrounding the minimum system requirements blogs.windows.com | 28, June 2021

Windows 11 is designed and built as a complete set of experiences, unlocking the full power of the PC our customers have come to rely on, including in areas like security, reliability, compatibility, video conferencing, multitasking, playing, creating, building, learning and more. We need a minimum system requirement that enables us to adapt software and hardware to keep pace with people’s expectations, needs and harness the true value and power of the PC to deliver the best experiences, now and in the future. To do that, we were guided by the following principles:

1. Security. Windows 11 raises the bar for security by requiring hardware that can enable protections like Windows Hello, Device Encryption, virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI) and Secure Boot. The combination of these features has been shown to reduce malware by 60% on tested devices. To meet the principle, all Windows 11 supported CPUs have an embedded TPM, support secure boot, and support VBS and specific VBS capabilities.
2. Reliability. Devices upgraded to Windows 11 will be in a supported and reliable state. By choosing CPUs that have adopted the new Windows Driver model and are supported by our OEM and silicon partners who are achieving a 99.8% crash free experience.
3. Compatibility. Windows 11 is designed to be compatible with the apps you use. It has the fundamentals of >1GHz, 2-core processors, 4GB memory, and 64GB of storage, aligning with our minimum system requirements for Office and Microsoft Teams.

Using the principles above, we are confident that devices running on Intel 8th generation processors and AMD Zen 2 as well as Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series will meet our principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11. As we release to Windows Insiders and partner with our OEMs, we will test to identify devices running on Intel 7th generation and AMD Zen 1 that may meet our principles. We’re committed to sharing updates with you on the results of our testing over time, as well as sharing additional technical blogs.

And here is Joke 2:

PC Health Check App
With these minimum system requirements in mind, the PC Health Check app was intended to help people check if their current Windows 10 PC could upgrade to Windows 11. Based on the feedback so far, we acknowledge that it was not fully prepared to share the level of detail or accuracy you expected from us on why a Windows 10 PC doesn’t meet upgrade requirements. We are temporarily removing the app so that our teams can address the feedback. We will get it back online in preparation for general availability this fall. In the meantime, you can visit our minimum system requirements page here to learn more.

First build of Windows 11 available to Windows Insiders today
Today, we’re releasing the first preview build of Windows 11 to the Windows Insider community. In support of the Windows 11 system requirements, we’ve set the bar for previewing in our Windows Insider Program to match the minimum system requirements for Windows 11, with the exception for TPM 2.0 and CPU family/model. By providing preview builds to the diverse systems in our Windows Insider Program, we will learn how Windows 11 performs across CPU models more comprehensively, informing any adjustments we should make to our minimum system requirements in the future. We look forward to the product feedback and learnings as it’s an important step to prepare Windows 11 for general availability this year – thank you to the Windows Insider community for your excitement and feedback thus far!

 

Administrative Tools are now located in Redmont.

 

I think "tool" is the right adjective to use to describe them.

 

No, you can't unless they gave back the function. They removed that. Taskbar functionality is dramatically reduced. In fact, all meaningful function has been eliminated. You can't even do this now.

Stinking ugly and super inefficient and locked-down smartphone trash OS.