Windows 11

LOOOL. What a Joke. Maybe they think, with the changed taskbar (icons and start menu in the middle as Apple) this isn't needed. I my gosh. Pure stupidity!

 

Users should be discouraged from inspecting the Task Manager, lest they might start wondering about all the bloatware or why on Earth their system gobbled up 5-6GB of RAM on startup whereas Linux might use 1-.1.5GB.

 

Here's a MAJOR part of the problem.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...based-security-enabled-by-default/ba-p/890167

That is not a PC. It is a piece of [insert expletive term for feces here] tablet with a removable keyboard. Stupid bastards. A piece of trash like that is better off running Android (Linux for smartphones and tablets) rather than Windows.

 

Well it looks horrible POS.

Spoiler: Images

Basically from the top, we see what happens when we click in Time and Date, damn look at the size of it, it's easily 4 times bigger than what I have on my Win8.1 which is exactly like on 7. And maybe 1.5x larger than Win10 default look and looks horrible as well, everything is decoupled and floats these were from XDA, apparently they are not using acrylic effect I guess..since it's opaque and even uglier.

Oh we get the bloated Notifications news which has almost useless information there. Then we have the new Quick Settings, which is basically Android / Apple rip off from Touch Screen devices shoved onto Windows, this is even worse the old school Networking, Sound Mixer are gone replaced by this more clicks and stupefied box. On the left (since the taskbar cannot be changed anymore) they shoved the Widgets which is a 1/3 cut of the screen and has scrolling style vertical UI. No thanks these are garbage and Win7 Vista based ones work and they are inherently superior. And sadly no sign of Analog Clock anymore, just like Win10 but even worse.

File explorer looks like a joke now, thanks to loss of information density everything is very big on this OS from the get go. So that Touch screen controls can work. As for that Store, ugh my eyes are simply bleeding of Cringe. Who wants to shove the stupid propaganda shows that Hollywood makes onto an App platform or their political agenda as you can see the small boxes under it in my face ?? Damn. I'm using an Operating System and for the Landing page they have their cut of information bombardment. And core games lol, idk what the hell are those. As expected the Store is a disaster. All processor cycles and data are wasted on this useless background updates and other "Features" they shoved yeah even if I have a 10900K those cycles are wasted. I'd rather let the CPU idle than running such bloatware garbage. And waste of GPU cycles when opened, and RAM as well. And most importantly the User's Time and Neurons.

This is really the next level of garbage puke that I ever laid my eyes on, the whole Windows team when Terry left was orphaned and now under Panos they transformed it, they got all the developers from the stupid phone market into this and wanted to shove Touch Based OS first and Windows with Mouse / Keyboard Human Interface second. Just why can't they give 2 options when setting up Windows ? They could save a lot of cash on their side too, give Desktop Win95 type look and feel, give Touch Screen what they want to shove. For the former they don't even have to do anything since Win95 based design is Timeless and it is light years ahead of any touchscreen abomination they can conjure.

Horrible. And completely unintuitive for Desktop experience. I hope this OS flops harder than anything they made but sadly with more people wanting to test this Pile of Junk and more people inclined towards latest is greatest AND younger generation using this junkware ChromeOS in schools and iPads etc. Esp the fact that how they are lured onto the Social Media platforms by these corporations which mine data. I do not have a bright future of Mouse Keyboard Win95 Windows anymore.

Win11 is the worst OS ever designed and It can only get worse. Nothing is going to save the Windows anymore, the people are dumb and the whole idea behind this OS is crystal clear from M$ from the TPM to the BIOS and the UX and all. They started the process of killing Windows with 8.1 but achieved it with 10 and now are just desecrating it's corpse now. RIP Windows95-10. This is not a Windows OS at all in my eyes.

 

Here is some older articles so you can see Microsoft new move with Win 11 isn't something new. They have done same disgusting practice since Win 10 days. As a reminder... Apple let processors from 2013 run on their latest Apple OS.

Microsoft made 'em do it: The latest Kaby Lake, Zen chips will support only Windows 10 pcworld.com | AUG 30, 2016

No one knows what would happen if you tried to run an older OS on one of the new chips.

"We don't know whether terminating support for older operating systems on Kaby Lake and Zen actually means they won’t work. What seems more certain is that Microsoft’s latest strategy will be seen as just another “stick” wielded to force customers to upgrade to Windows 10"

Confirmed: Windows 10 may cut off devices with older CPUs pcworld.com | NOV 7, 2017

Microsoft's policy puts all older hardware at risk.

I'm sure the only reason they pushed the free update on all and let the older hardware run on Win 10 was the Microsoft Store and the nasty Bing.

If Microsoft engineers used the so called start menu from Win 8 with the Win 11 language it would be complete. Win 11 is exactly as Win 8 once again. For phones and tablets. Win 11 ain't a real desktop OS. It's a real Disaster.



Intel Core Processors and Intel Bridge Technology Unleash Windows 11 Experience
by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 06/25/2021 08:22 AM |

Renowned for deep co-engineering and collaboration to advance computing, Intel and Microsoft today deepen their partnership to deliver a completely reimagined computing experience with the upcoming Windows 11 for the more than three-fourths of Windows PCs powered by Intel processors.

"The combination of Windows 11 and Intel technologies and platforms offers unmatched performance, compatibility and experiences on Windows" YEEP.

 

The Windows 11 Dev Team has left us with no option.
The only solution is...

 

Build 22000.x

The right-click context menu has been changed now to accommodate the touch screen crap and the new animations are out, the explorer has a compact view which restores the lost information density but those icons instead of the text based ribbon menu on 8.1/ 10 looks childish and silly also you can see it's huge. The Settings panel is out, it reeks Tablet puke esp if you see there's an "Apps" section. Plus people are mentioning Default Application system is not good.

The whole OS animations are fancy, many people are going to love it like Soyjak normies many people are legit excited for Android apps, I run my phone bootloader unlocked, rooted with recovery and never wanted those apps onto Windows but viceversa, now things are changed. Many want Android apps onto Windows mostly because of that stupid bs Instagram / Snapchat and other social media garbage.

Whole OS is kiddified esp those dumb icons are designed by the usual pathetic people that designed these flat UIs and garbage elements of bloatware. Win10 icons when Terry and his team was there was at-least faithful now it's ultra lame and clone of Linux and Apple Mac. And as expected everything is super dumb just like Apple / Google and now M$ also. Future of smart people who can reject the corporate dictating their lives will be far less, I can see that, don't believe ? try to setup "Widgets" which has "News" without M$ Account, means they control what you read and what you are getting from their servers.

I was mentioning to many folks that Apple is going to ruin this world. And now this is the proof that how Apple mangled the America and their whole approach to the computers. Shame that Microsoft which made the superior Windows 7 Operating System is now bogged down.

I'm still waiting for an LTSC update, I hope Windows10 gets LTSC since Windows 11 uses Windows Experience Pack of some sorts and too new with all borked features esp most important context menu system and new DCH Drivers, Plus most important Windows 11 update system is now Annual instead of SAC so corporations have to shift a lot of their deployment process, which is where money at. So that makes sense to split 2 revenue streams, instead of one, with Windows 10 it was more Enterprise side since they need more support and users were simply guinea pigs and with new 11 they get ton of cash from OEMs directly.

About that Windows Experience Pack, I wonder if we can remove that completely through MSMG / NTLite / DISM or M$ may actually issue an LTSC without that pack for in case they are going with Windows11 as LTSC ? Gotta wait for these questions to be answered.

 

Reminds me of those like, kids toy computers which isn't a good image for an OS that would be targeting professionals...

 

How does Windows 11 run on the compatible Surface models? windowsreport.com

• Some users have managed to upgrade their Surface devices to the Windows 11 dev build.
• Many of them have taken to social media to share their awesome experience with other like-minded users.
• Windows 11 seems to run excellent on all the compatible surface devices and got only positive reviews.
• Microsoft announced that it has big plans for its Surface family, in the not-so-distant future.

If you are a proud owner of such a device, know that Microsoft has considerably improved users experience, and has announced important plans for the future.

Yep, Win 11 will be a big leap for thin, tablets and Surface Junk. And the Kids love it. Microsoft will as Apple build their desktop OS around own Hardware/Surfacebooks (see above... big plans for its Surface family). This will dumb down the OS for real desktops.

Microsoft stated that it’s planning to significantly improve users’ experience for all its touchscreen-based devices, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job, so far.


"Users also mention substantial improvements to all the touch features and have even started calling these device s the iPad killers they have been dreaming of for years"

Samsung’s Galaxy Book 2 runs Windows 11 like a charm

Windows 11 could become available to an even bigger and more diverse palette of gadgets, in the future.

"With time, Windows 11 might be coming to more and more devices, spreading its availability to a vast network of supported gadgets and doodads"

What only lacks into this new Win 11 ecosystem is Microsoft smartphones.

There you have it.

I ecpect the new Windows 11 dev build perform equal as the the leaked version. Win 10 2019 LTSC vs Win 11 https://www.3dmark.com/compare/vrpcr/68656/vrpcr/68283


As you can see, Win 11 is useless for the bot with the old

 

Some interesting views on Android apps + w11
Basically, looks like w11 will have a bad MS store + a bad Amazon store :O)
But could evolve, and the ability to sideload stuff (if really working) is an asset.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3623051/android-apps-windows.html

 

@Papusan @Mr. Fox

Winaero Tweaker for Windows 11

 

Yep, and expect bugs as in the new touch friendly OS fron M$.

Exactly the tech we need for desktops/laptops. Microsoft takes hand on what refresh rate your screen run to save power. Why buy a high refresh screen or laptops with +144Hz if Windows turn it down to old days 60Hz. Yet again a new tech that probably will be a buggy mess.

Windows 11 Will Feature Dynamic Refresh Rate on the Desktop tomshardware.com

But there are several caveats

As detailed in a Microsoft Blog Post, dynamic refresh rate is new a feature coming to Windows 11 that will allow the operating system to dynamically change your screen's refresh rate to save power consumption.

This type of refresh rate manipulation is a bit different from the current variable refresh rate we have today in Windows 10. With dynamic refresh rate, the goal is to improve power consumption when using 2D applications on the desktop, like emails, web browsers, and word processors.

Let's say you're typing an email to somebody. The screen doesn't need to be refreshing at its maximum of 120Hz to keep up, as an example. When Windows 11 sees you aren't doing anything that requires a higher refresh rate, it will cut your monitor's refresh rate down to 60Hz automatically to save power. If you have an android smartphone with variable refresh rate, it's the same idea.

This feature will be most beneficial for laptops, but Microsoft doesn't say if this feature will be laptop exclusive. So we could see this feature being unlocked for both notebook and desktop computers.

It seems Microsoft tune it for Win phones in the future

 

They need to keep their filthy mitts off of my hardware. This is a great example of why they deserve to die as a company. They are unfit for duty at this point. If they want to go into the smartphone business again, let them have at it. We'll see if it works out any better on their second try. But, their control freak crap isn't welcome in my world.

 

I don't want a dynamic refresh rate. I want it to be static.

Running my screen at 120 Hz or 144 Hz at all times makes everything look better, even when typing up documents.

This is the same stupid argument people make for running slow paced AAA games at 60 fps. They say high framerates don't matter as much in slow paced games. This is completely and utterly wrong. EVERYTHING looks better at a higher refresh rate.

 

The problem is they don't care what anyone wants. They want what they want. Bastards. This approach to things would spell death to most companies. Let's hope it does for them, too.

If I want to save power, I will turn the computer off. This is not something that should be their decision and they should stop treating all digital electronics devices as if they are a smartphone or tablet. I have a smartphone. I own a tablet (that I seldom use because it sucks). I own a few PCs. I want them to not resemble one another in any shape, form, or fashion. Each serves a distinct purpose. Blurring the lines always results in compromises. Compromise sucks.

 

I become more and more concerned for Microsoft engineers health. They seems to lack understanding what Windows originally was meant for (desktop OS). Apple make IOS for their phones/IpadOS for their tablet and desktop OS for their computers. Windows heading to Unisex platform who cover everything from Phones to desktops. Sad seeing Microsoft's (new) direction.

I know, but they don't listening on the users. They know what you want, LOOL

 

Their lack of understanding (and intelligence) has never been so obvious. It is sad to see that unisex/homogenization thing happening in any aspect of life. That is a messed-up approach. Differences are what make things some things greater than others and differentiate between good and bad. Eliminating differences never produces a good outcome... only a compromised outcome, steeped in mediocrity. Differences should be identified and clear lines should be drawn. Celebrating differences, rather than pretending they do not exist, is what opens pathways to excellence. The great rise to the challenge and become dominant. The not-so-great simply fade into oblivion. Let's keep it that way.

I am eager to see what new benefits it brings to Windows 7 and 10. But, I am not sure that this is going to be enough to make Windoze X.1 acceptable. We need a utility that has the ability to undo everything new that is not liked and put back everything that was liked exactly the way it used to be before they screwed it up.

 

Meanwhile, over in the wonderful world of Linux, people enjoy freedom from all this BS and laptops with not only an open OS but also user-editable firmware:

 

Windows 11 22000 ISO / ESD (German, English) deskmodder.de

Windows 11 is currently being tested in the dev and later in the beta channel. But you can save this link. Because we will use it for the updates of the "summer version" (co_release). More options for download links of the ISO.

Windows 10 22000 ISO english

• Home, Pro, Pro Educ., Pro for Work., Educ., Multi Session, Ent. 22000.51 28.06. Also as an N version HiDrive (5.12 GB)

Developer boots Windows 11 on a phone and it surprisingly scales well windowslatest.com - June 30, 2021

Microsoft’s Windows 11 has been optimized for multiple form factors and it seems to work great on laptops/tablets with touch screens, thanks to the new in-built tablet mode and significantly improved gestures experience.

Yep, if you have older computer past 2017/18 (+ 8 cores desktop Cpu doesn't matter) then throw it in the bin and buy a newer phone so you can enjoy Win 11 the way this OS is meant for, LOOL

Yep, Microsoft try be Apple all the way...

'Dynamic Refresh Rate' in Windows 11 could rival Apple's ProMotion displays in future Surface PCs windowscentral.com

Microsoft just announced that Windows 11 is getting Dynamic Refresh Rate to help improve inking, scrolling, and battery life. The tech mirrors Apple's ProMotion displays and hints at new Surface hardware coming this year.

Windows 11: It doesn't matter, and you shouldn't fall for the marketing windowscentral.com

What I'm saying is, I don't agree with the fuss over the new OS, even as someone whose primary job here is to discuss Microsoft news on a site with Windows in the name. The operating system is, as an industry analyst whom I spoke with yesterday called it, a "marketing moment" for Microsoft. From where I'm sitting, it's nothing more than a mild facelift that is being used as an excuse to draft the media into manufacturing consumer interest.

No Win32 Updates in Windows 11's Microsoft Store winaero.com ghacks.net

The latest update to the App Developer Agreement puts a damper on the support of Win32 applications in Microsoft's Windows 11 Store.

This means, that Win32 applications won't be updated through Microsoft's Store. Developers may publish new versions, but updates won't happen through the Store. Microsoft notes that applications can be updated through in-app updates. Not all Win32 applications support in-application updates.

Closing Words
Updates were one of the key reasons for installing Store versions of Win32 applications. With that gone, there is barely anything left that can be seen as an advantage over downloading programs from developer websites or even third-party download sites.

The only benefit of downloading a Win32 application from Microsoft's Store is that the executable files have been tested for viruses. LOOL

 

Cant believe i am saying this but:

Windows 10 > Windows 11 by far.

They're trying so hard be like Mac and a Android smartphone that even average users are sh*tting on it. I was naive to think they would go back to what made Windows 7 and earlier OS's great but now they're a lost cause. The only positive is that more users will move to Linux for sure. The UI is ugly as hell and its even more locked down than Windows 10.

Also thanks to the NBR community for being guinea pigs of this trash OS, it helps a lot

 

In that case why not just disable Secure Boot to burn the ISO? Does it block the creation of installation media as well if the Nazi cancer is disabled?

Have you tried enabling Secure Boot just long enough to get past the installation process, then disabling Secure Boot? I'm curious if you can get by with pretending to go along with their stupid program and then changing it back when they're not looking.

That makes perfect sense given the fact that it is built from the ground up to look and feel like a smartphone instead of a PC.

I don't even need to read the article on that link to know that I agree with it, LoL. I will give it 5 stars based on the headline alone.
Edit: after reading it, I only partially agree.

 

Amen. They're too stupid to be ashamed of themselves for releasing such an abomination.

 

All I can say...

 

1) My Gigabyte lappy doesn't have the option to disable Secure Boot

2) Not sure if you can even install the OS without Secure Boot enabled with the TPM stuff Microsoft is enforcing.

 

Just lovely

What have changed with the new Dev build vs the leaked OS? You could install it without Secure Boot ot TPM.

Install Windows 11 without TPM and Secure Boot

 

The second row reads funny.

 

Suddenly Laptops - System76 is starting to look a lot more appealing.

 

Why are we stressing over this so much? All the checks can be bypassed by replacing one file in the ISO - appraiserres.dll - with one from a Windows 10 ISO.
I've installed it on an 11 year old laptop - no UEFI, no Secure Boot. Just MBR, and TPM 1.2.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-who-are-trying-to-install-windows-11.836312/

 

Firstly, I expect Microsoft will probably fix that particular loophole at some point in the future. Heaven forbid they work on things of actual value for the consumer. Second, do you honestly expect John and Jane Doe to undertake such steps to install Windows 11? They may get the notice that their computer is not able to install the new OS, causing them to flip out and toss an otherwise perfectly viable computer into the e-waste bin.

 

That might have been true a decade ago. Now we have social media. In every social circle you'll either find a geek, or someone who knows a geek who will tell you what needs to be done. In my family circle, I'm that guy. In other circles, there's a school/college going son, daughter, niece, nephew, etc.who will know what to do. 3 of my own nephews are computer savvy.

Ultimately, what is going to happen is that certain advanced features will be disabled for users with incompatible hardware. John and Jane Doe won't even know what these might be.

 

It's what we can't see that is most worrisome.

Wow, that is beyond tragic. This glaring product defect would be outside of my capacity for tolerance regardless of how nice or fancy a product might otherwise be. A readily accessible and fully functional BIOS mod to correct that defect would be a prerequisite to purchasing it. The fact that it ships that way calls Gigabyte's moral integrity into question for me. That is even worse than the lack of CSM, which was enough to negate the option of owning an X170 for me.

I was curious about disabling it after installation, not before. There are already methods to circumvent their design defects that interfere with installation. So, instead of modding the ISO or using a reg hack, simply pretending to go along with the program until the installation completes, then removing the TPM module and disabling Secure Boot.

Indeed. They become more appealing than ever simply on the basis that they are not supporting Micro$lop and shipping systems with Linux preinstalled by default. This gives special meaning to " The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

This seems to be against their core values. They offer nothing of value in Windows 11. Zero, zilch, nada.
This seems to be part of their nefarious self-serving agenda. I believe what we are seeing is a carefully crafted scheme to do exactly that.

 

This is last year's model, but I don't expect the latest ones to be any different. Pretty cool that they disable the Intel ME and allow you to build your own firmware.

I'd be willing to bet 90% of the engineers who wrote Windows 11 will never use it.

 

I disable Intel ME in the BIOS on all of my systems, including my turdbook (thanks to @Prema's unlocked BIOS). I cannot identify any loss of function with it disabled and there is no discernible benefit to having it enabled. As far as I am concerned, it is a frivolous security risk (and I don't even care that much about security) and there is not a good reason I can identify to leave it enabled.

Build your own firmware? I am going to have to look into that further to understand exactly what it means. I definitely like what it sounds like it means.

I suspect you are right and that is a pretty safe bet to wager. I suspect a majority of IT managers will also quietly avoid having it on their own computers, or install it in a dual boot scenario so they don't have to rely on using it as the primary OS... like my crash test dummy installations of Windows 10 with all of the cancer payload.

 

Damn that sucks

Even on my Legion 5 i can disable secure boot and enable legacy mode as well.

The workaround in this article looks like a PITA to do but it might be the only way for now.

https://allthings.how/how-to-install-windows-11-on-legacy-bios-without-secure-boot-or-tpm-2-0/

 

I bet they won't even do that - they'll probably install it within a virtual machine, allowing them to work with the cancer but not have it infect their hardware directly.

 

I just unzipped a Windows 10 ISO and unzipped a Windoze 11 ISO, renamed the install.wim file in Windows 10, then did a copy/paste of the install.esd file from Windoze 11 into Windows 10 hierarchy.

 

I forgot to mention, this is the best news out of Windows 11 since rumors and Insider preview. In fact this is really amazing thing. No BS UWP Style MS Store crap touching the good old perfectly fine and superior Win32 applications, I can be happy now. However their abomination of GaaS Xbox Trash Pass and their Microsoft 365 SaaS and other WaaS cancer is still there in the OS core components esp DCH driver system, but they have shifted away from Win32, means they are not going to try and kill it since they failed so many times by now. So no centralized BS repo of Win32 applications at all, no project Abomination / Reunion shovelware as well.

Superb !!

Only worry is their full focus is now on Windows on ARM, UWP, As a Service money printing services, publishing their selected News propaganda & killing all the aspects of Win95 innovations to dumb down young people in the name of simplicity and unoriginal Apple inspired garbage.

 

You forgot the massive Windows 11 marketing machine from the web, OEM and Microsoft itself. People ain't as smart as you think. And they will believe on the marketing over anything else. Same for the security claims from Microsoft. And none know if Microsoft will patch the loophole or not in the released OS. Probably ways to circumwent new tricks from Redmond HQ but this isn't for the Average Joe

Alienware 17 R4 turning on and off on a loop after firmware TPM

Windows 11 6700k
Hi all, I have the Alienware r5(I think) it's the one that came with the 6700k. Anyway, I seen that windows 11 won't support 6th gen chips. Is that hard-set?

TPM / PTT on Alienware 14
Hello, did someone managed to find TPM / PTT in the Alienware 14 BIOS (I am on A12 BIOS version)? Can't find it anywhere and what is surprising is that older devices like Alienware MX14/17 seem to support this feature. Thanks

Is a Surface Pro 8 coming soon? A new Windows 11 feature adds to the evidence
A new feature for Windows 11 specifically designed for inking on tablets couldn't be a coincidence.

Windows 11 runs unexpectedly well on Raspberry Pi 4 and mobile phones
Users are installing Windows 11 on a wider range of devices than initially thought possible.

First Windows 11 preview still insists with bloatware
Our own survey showed that only 11% aren't bothered by this behaviour


The push for the Microsoft Store will be massive.
Microsoft Edge extensions are coming to Windows 11 Store windowslatest - June 30, 2021

In Windows 11, Microsoft Store will be the one destination for everything. The Microsoft Store policies will also allow developers to publish their Chromium Edge extensions in the Microsoft Store, which should streamline the overall web browsing experience on Windows 11.

Microsoft’s new vision for Store is simple: Windows 11 Store becomes the one destination for all your apps and games. This includes Android apps. In fact, Microsoft is trying to integrate apps stores like Amazon AppStore directly into the new Store, so it makes sense for the company to publish extensions through the Microsoft Store as well.

All is about Windows 11 as a Unisex touch OS and the Store .

 

Well said. I agree with you for the most part, although my point still holds good - that most of the average Joes and Janes know someone who'll know what to do, and will probably do it for free. Or they'll know someone who knows someone. Six Degrees Of Separation. LOL. I have personally set up laptops for dozens of people in the past, and trained them to use it for their VERY basic needs. Press this to turn it on, wait for the login screen to show, type your password here to continue. Use this for the internet; use this for word processing. When you're done, this is how you turn it off. I install a pack of simple games for them - solitaire, etc. If they need something beyond that, they invite me over for lunch (if I can't tell them how to do it over the phone).

I expect the hardware restrictions will eventually come down to the feature level - as it should have been from the get go (what were you thinking, Microsoft?).
A feature that depends on specific hardware will not work if that hardware isn't there. Touch input needs a touch screen, Windows Hello face login needs a supported webcam, newer processors are needed for the Android subsystem, ... that kind of thing. I'm more concerned that they're trying to tie everyone to a Microsoft account, which doesn't work if there's no internet - there are still a lot of places around the world where that's going to be a problem.

 

I am not as optimistic about ordinary people (sheeple). If they were truly intelligent they would not be interested in finding a way to make it work and sucky trash like Windows 11 would not even exist.

 

https://www.techrepublic.com/articl...ystem-requirements-and-the-security-benefits/

Why didn't they say this at the very start?

 

Translated: We don't want to focus on optimizing our OS nor find alternative solutions to support hardware that is recent and still working fine on Windows 10. We just want to milk the crap out of people with Securo-Phobia.
I guess it had happen one day, but i didn't expect it so soon in the name of security, that makes me mad and laugh at same time.

 

Why not take it further and push the HW recuirements specs to 11th gen Intel and latest AMD processors? This should been don if security was their main goal #Tiger Lake CPUs have Control-flow Enforcement Technology to help Control Flow Guard block ROP attacks (and there's an AMD equivalent)#

Newest processors is out, but not the new touch OS. No reason to set the bar lower for Win 11 Or maybe they are afraid almost none will be able to use/install this new OS and enjoy the rounded corners and the new idiotic taskbar?

Talking about security.... Why should you trust on Microsoft? I'm 100% sure big corps, NSA etc would never ever jump on Home Edition even if it had same features as Pro versions. None of they would let M$ grab their key to all their data.

Windows 11 Home will require a Microsoft account, but Pro won't pcworld.com

Why force people to use an Microsoft account to be able to install Win 11 if they later can swap back to an local account? Will this improve security for the Win 11 Home users?

Once you sign in into an M$ account, you give them the disk encryption recovery key so they can use it as they want . Is that safe? It's for a reason etc China can get Special Windows Editions from the U.S based Redmond Company.

"As soon as your recovery key leaves your computer, you have no way of knowing its fate. A hacker could have already hacked your Microsoft account and can make a copy of your recovery key before you have time to delete it. Or Microsoft itself could get hacked, or could have hired a rogue employee with access to user data. Or a law enforcement or spy agency could send Microsoft a request for all data in your account, which would legally compel it to hand over your recovery key, which it could do even if the first thing you do after setting up your computer is delete it"

Yep, M$ need to stop talk about security as reason for the new OS HW specs and let it be up to the users... Microsoft Admits It Signed Rootkit Malware That Phones Home To Chinese Military

 

Classic fear-mongering tactic.
Just asking ... if someone using Windows 11 on a supported PC becomes a victim of ransomware, will Microsoft pay the ransom? Har, har, har.

 

22000.62 is the next Insider build.

https://twitter.com/rgadguard/status/1410457737192947714?s=19

 

Yep, and the phone jockey and the young devs jump on it as sweet candy. Finally a OS from Microsoft worth have on their phones Maybe those with real computers should swap it out for a phone?

Damn straight I'm excited for Windows 11, and no one can convince me I shouldn't be
I haven't been this excited about an OS since the days of Windows Phone, and no one can kill my hype.
https://www.windowscentral.com/im-excited-windows-11

Devs start bringing Windows 11 to Android phones from OnePlus, Xiaomi windowslatest.com - July 1, 2021

Running Windows on a phone has long been a dream for Microsoft enthusiasts, especially after the company discontinued their Windows Phones. While we may never see Microsoft's vision for a phone running Windows 11 some young developers have shown us a preview of the operating system running on Android phones.

 

Correct, just fixed some minor typos.

 

Windows 11 CPU compatibility list: Link to an annoying compatibility list
Ubuntu CPU compatibility list: All 64bit Intel and AMD CPUs supported

 

Phones you say bro papu ? yeah they are ultra DUMB to handle x86 OS, people installing it to try the WindowsARM but they are powerless planned obsolescence garbage. But wait ... there are similar things going on Android side too.

Google just made big changes, they are making Android APK side-loading and Play Store submission system into real Submission to Google. Basically now APKs cannot be submitted for new Apps from Aug2021, they are taking it to a step further by making the Playstore/Google generate the Signatures for the Applications, here Developer won't be signing them, but their keys will be in the hand of Goolag. So what's new ? it's called AAB, bundle format which takes their APK and splits up with removing small parts of app. They claim saving space through Dynamic Delivery of PlayStore which saves bandwidth (what a BS joke Facebook and other Social Media trash are big not basic applications) thus you cannot simply install AAB downloaded from APKMirror but you need to install their Extractor and then make an APK out then install, in the future Goolag may deem that practice is not safe and they will ban the App once the dumbed down people do not care anymore as they will be busy in consuming all sorts of trash from these megacorporations.

Also an important Note - Google made Android 12 into ugly dumb kiddo OS like Apple beacause Young people are destined to be dumbed down, they should be kept in dark. And under the UI they shake up fundamentals like APK system, Fileystem killing like Scoped Storage, APIs etc.

As mentioned in above Computerworld article - how Android Apps on Win11 do not work with PlayStore and are crippled. However point is AMZN already takes the same developer signing by them approach for their Android app store but they wrap their NSA Certified tracking system onto the Apps to keep track. Google does it in the Playstore way but not App itself, with this new AAB system they can do it right now as per XDA article they are saying they "Won't" . Well this is age of Data not Oil but things are going out of control and people do not care at all, too dumb and too entrenched in their daily dose of Dopamine.

Slippery slope is now slipping away, people giving away all their keys..people like us are going to be soon outnumbered by the stupid and brainwashed.

 

But, we already know that...

I guess it depends on whether or not the facelift is nice. I certainly don't think so in the case of Windows 11. I embrace change when it adds value. Change purely for the sake of change seldom does more than create chaos. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Change is not a measurement of improvement and doesn't define beauty.

Some people think new is always better.

If you're planning to upgrade to Windoze 11, then you need to...