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    Windows 11

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 14, 2021.

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    Those emojis, Madre de Dios... one could think ms' mistreatment of windows had already reached a climax in many areas, but, still working to make things even worse wherever possible :confused:
     
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    I have been paying 0% attention to the "new" Win 11, so could somebody please explain the screenshot
    Seriously… it looks like something from a gaming console, 15 years ago. Is this the wonderful new UI MS "designed"
     
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    Pure Stupidity! Microsoft treat us all as kids. The colors, icons and the UI seems to be made by kids for kids. The flood of new emojis just confirm this.

    Hey Microsoft, the last things we need are animated emoji

    We have too many distractions already, and Microsoft plans to add more to both Teams and Windows.

    I’ve asked Microsoft whether there will be a way out—ideally, a way to turn the animations off. I’m not the Grinch that’s going to tell Microsoft that they can’t redesign their UI, or emoji, or other parts of their OS. But I am going to say that I think a bunch of newly animated emoji are the last thing we need right now, and I would encourage you to tell Microsoft the same.

    It could be worse: Microsoft could have added emoji with sounds attached. Oh wait.
     
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    At this point, we all need to band together and create the "perfect" operating system. One that gives the user complete control over everything, and has performance in mind.
     
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    how is my sig logo now? I saw the first one ok since I have a 4K screen which is why you see it gigantic, lemme know know how it looks on your screen so I can decrease more if it still looks big
     
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    I could use a lot of colorful language that would be against forum rules and against my character as a decent person, but the bottom line seems to be that the people responsible for aesthetics are from a different planet. On the planet they come from, everything is exactly 180° the opposite. Meaning good is bad, bad is good, ugly is beautiful, etc. It is difficult to have any respect for people with such disgusting poor taste and zero talent for creating something desirable to look at.

    Understanding that going into the idea of using it is key to avoiding anger and disappointment. One must resign their self to the idea that the first order of business needs to be fixing their repulsive mess. This is a recurring area of opportunity and point of failure for them that started with Windows 8. They consistently demonstrate an uncanny ability to learn nothing from their past failures.
     
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    Not too big. Ok. But the yellow color for the Apple thing is what I call Puke Green. Not yellow. And where is your Gigatop? In hardware heaven? :oops:

    Compare my sig with yours
    upload_2021-7-16_5-42-39.png
     
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    I have not the need for a Gigatop taptop anymore Switching to Mac and just keep the XPS 13 for work/as a back up laptop and something to hold me off until the new MacBook Pro laptops with the M1 are released because the current 13 inch MacBook Pro with the M1 chip has only 2 2 Thunderbolt ports and nothing else.
     
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    @Papusan I tried setting the color to Yellow for the Mac but if I do that it's way too bright that I would blind my online friend PooPooSan. Have you a solution? I wanted to enter this hex code manually for Dark Yellow but I don't see the option anymore to enter a custom color I could've sworn it was there before:

    #8B8000

    @Charles P. Jefferies
     
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    You can have 3 pics in sig. Maybe make one for your Applebook with correct colors with everything within two lines.
     
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    Yes, this is a lot better. It was crazy, ridiculously huge before.

    I have more or less given up trying to use colored text. Nothing works well with XenForo. I am not sure how or why it became popular. It sucks in every place that uses it. Maybe the people responsible for it are the same ones responsible for how icky-looking and screwed up W8, 10 and 11 are.
     
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    perhaps im a moron but i dig windows 10...do i prefer 7 yes i do...but its in the past nothing will bring it back as the vegtables will never grown in the up direction....only down
     
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    I liked W8 and I like W10 aesthetics after I am done tweaking them it to look more like Windows 7, but the default UI on W8 and W10, including the cartoonish tile crap, horrible abuse of pastel colors and white are personally repulsive to me. That doesn't mean someone that finds it attractive is a moron, only that we have nothing in common in terms of aesthetic preference. The newest versions of W10 and W11 lack any form of AeroGlass transparency, so they are sorely lacking in terms of gratifying aesthetics based on my personal preferences. I do not enjoy everything being opaque and pastel. I find the default options to provide a very blasé and unimpressive user experience. The fact that we sometimes see the word "immersive" used to describe the W10 and the new W11 GUI is truly laughable.

    I really miss how extensively Windows 7 could be customized. It seems that being superior, distinct or unique in our modern world is viewed as sinful, elitist or racist. We may as well all be deaf, dumb and blind and believe everything the media and government tell us to believe.

    I am not a fan of the new Fisher-Price icons in W11, but I am finding the W11 UI (excluding the joke Start menu) to be favorable over 19XX and later versions of W10. The only way to have an acceptable Start menu after Windows 7 is with a third-party application. The stock Windows Start menu has been an inefficient and hideous-looking piece of crap on every version post-Windows 7.
    This is what an attactive version of W10 looks like. It also happens to the be least screwed up version since Windows 7 SP1. W10-1809-GUI.JPG
     
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    Well it makes sense it's for enterprise use.

    The remote access we use at work is garbage, it's slow and can't use any software apart from the MS Office suit. Wonder if with Windows 365 I would be able to run all the software I need from home.
     
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    One of the best things about win10 is the dark mode(and nightlight). I wasn't so much into the aeroglass from win7 it was buggy at times, didn't improve the experience to me. I also like the sharp corners and I don't really mind the start menu other than the bloatware to get rid of.
     
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    I also like the sharp corners. It is sad that W11 regressed in that way, going back to round corners. While we have different views on the Start menu, the most useful feature, perhaps the only good one, that came after Window 7 is the Win-X menu. I love that feature. I am waiting for them to deprecate it because it is so useful, as they seem to enjoy killing valuable functionality.

    The only times that I have encountered bugs with AeroGlass is when using buggy display drivers and on systems with very weak graphics processing capabilities (such as integrated graphics). I never really viewed those as issues with AeroGlass other than it exposing the underlying problem with lousy drivers and hardware. But I can see the connection based on the symptom.
     
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    Yeah can't remember but sometimes it would switch out to windows basic theme in 7 and I'd have to jiggle it a bit to get aeropeek etc reenabled. I think it was faulty detection of the equipment that said it wasn't enough, probably around gaming. Might have been optimus related too.
     
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    Yes, almost guaranteed. I have always hated Optimus/hybrid graphics. I've only had a couple of laptops that use it (including my current) and I totally despise it. I had issues with AeroGlass crashing to the Windows Basic theme on my first laptop that had it whenever I would leave a game and it would switch back to Intel HD Graphics.
     
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    Huh if you're referring to your eluktronics I thought those had mux switches? Unless you need the battery savings can't see why not just squash it, worked well for me but I'm always plugged in on this one.
     
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    Nope, I have an older MECH-15 G2Rx. It's Optimus, unfortunately. The mux switch came a generation or two later. I bought it because it was cheap and for the price the best option available. It served me well for the purpose for which I bought it, so no complaints.

    I've never cared about battery life... ever. Even on my smartphone I don't care.

    But, I seldom use it anymore. In fact, I was thinking about selling it because I so seldom use it. It still looks almost new.
     
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    Fixed. We can put the barf bucket back in the cabinet under the bathroom sink.
     
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    Yep, Microsoft want to force web camera with Windows Hello functionality as security feature.

    Hackers Trick Windows Hello With a Single Infrared Image
    CyberArk researchers bypass Microsoft's facial-recognition system by exploiting its reliance on infrared imaging.

    This isn't more safe than Apples Face ID. On top they want that the OEMs must have it on coming laptops that is forced to use Win 11.


    And damn amazing new feature from Redmond... It will be free. Yep, free to use for the consumers :vbrolleyes:
    Windows 11’s taskbar chat app integration is now a step closer to release windowslatest.com

    One of the flagship features of Windows 11 is Microsoft Teams-based Chat app integration right into the taskbar. During the event, Microsoft said Teams integration in Windows 11 will allow anyone to launch chats and calls directly from the taskbar, and it will be free for consumers.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Using your web cam as a security feature makes about as much sense as choosing your date of birth for a user name and social security number for a password.
     
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    Lol especially with all their fear mongering about security breeches all over, real or otherwise. The way it's going you'll need TSA/TSO level of id to do pretty much everything including using your own purchased computer etc etc etc
     
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    Windows always had security breaches and i think they just using as a excuse to add whatever crap they want to Windows 11, Most laptops dont have Windows Hello so i guess most PCs in the world are consider unsecure as well with their logic.... The more i hear about Windows 11 the more i wanna ditch Windows for good. The main question i wanna know is if buy a new PC with Windows 11 preinstalled will i be able to install Windows 10 on it instead without any issues?. Personally i think it'll work and if so i think a lot of people will go that route.
     
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    Nvidia Releases Its First Windows 11 Supported Driver
    By Aaron Klotz about 3 hours ago

    Prepping for launch


    Exactly the laptop you'll need or want for the launch of Win 11. Why bother with normal laptops when tou can almost get two laptops in one for the brand new touch friendly OS? CIGAR.gif


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    Microsoft's Game-Changing DirectStorage API Won't Be A Windows 11 Exclusive hothardware.com | Today

    Last year, Microsoft announced that it would be bringing DirectStorage to Windows PCs to “revolutionize PC gaming." Then, Microsoft showed how DirectStorage would improve the Windows 11 gaming experience back in June, but what about Windows 10? Since that announcement, the DirectX team has been hard at work, and the DirectStorage Developer Preview is now available with support for Windows 10 version 1909 and up.

    Windows 10 Will Support Game-Boosting DirectStorage Tech After All tomshardware.com

    But Windows 11 will have superior performance

    The only caveat with Windows 10's implementation of DirectStorage will be its older storage stacks -- a set of drivers that allows applications and Windows to communicate with storage devices. This will lead to reduced system performance, compared to Windows 11, but is still better than having no DirectStorage technology at all.

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    And this doesn't bode well for Win 11. If Win 10 have more vulnerabilities/bugs than the 10 years old Win 7. What will Win 11 become? Equal older OS as XP used today? :D

    Windows 10 more vulnerable? aswoody.com

    Every month brings the usual suspects — zero-day vulnerabilities, remote code execution, denial of service attacks, plus the odd Defender bug here and there.

    But as we count up the vulnerabilities, there is a disturbing trend. If you go by head counts of the bugs in each version, Windows 10 has more bugs this month than Windows 7.
     
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    anti innovation?
     
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    MFHVMYQCeJHMGop4u8VkzJ.png upload_2021-7-20_10-15-9.png poop.png
     
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    A rough start for Win 11. But this is as expected. Win 11 ain't a new OS but built on Win 10 with some Apple sugar on top. Would the forced Secure boot and TPM 2.0 helped on this? :D

    New Windows 10 vulnerability allows anyone to get admin privileges bleepingcomputer.com | Today

    Windows 10 and Windows 11 are vulnerable to a local elevation of privilege vulnerability after discovering that users with low privileges can access sensitive Registry database files.

    The future of PC gaming might not be Windows 11 after all windowsreport.com

    Previously, Microsoft was advertising Windows 11 as the future of PC gaming, operating system-wise.

    • Recent decisions that the tech company took seem to dismiss last moths allegations, in terms of gaming.
    • The tech gianr is committed to ensuring that when game developers adopt a new API, they can reach as many gamers as possible.
    • This could mean that gamers will still choose Windows 10 over Windows 11 as their go-to OS.
     
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    Hmmm, now why do I NOT have a surprised look on my face? They are huge proponents of anemic trash yuppie tree-hugger hardware, so it kind of makes sense. They've lost focus on what matters most. Trying to emulate a sucky outfit like the Cupertino Clown Posse will really mess things up. There is a reason crApple's market share has never been anything to write home about. They suck. Not sure why the Redmond Reprobates think copying that is a good idea. Oh wait... they're reprobates... that's why.

    As for that new vulnerability, we can thank heaven for the good mistakes like that. I know I do. Those are the kind of exploits dreams are made of for enthusiasts in a world overrun by sheeple and muppet babies. I hope they find fixing that one to be impossible, LOL.
     
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    I hope this pushes more people to Linux. I've always wondered why tech-savvy people interested in having full control over their hardware don't just use an OS that actually gives them that control instead of constantly fighting Windows. Gaming was a legitimate excuse in the past but Proton is excellent and it looks like Valve is doubling down on it with the Steam Deck.
     
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    For me personally, it was the unfamiliarity of Linux when I first tried it out coupled with the complexity of getting anything installed. That left an extremely bad impression on me, and I ended up seeing Linux as a very hard to use piece of crap. I immediately went back to Windows and have been happy ever since.

    To be fair, this was 10 years ago, and I was in middle school back then. Given the improvements over the past decade, I'd be willing to give Linux another shot today if I could play all my games on it and use all the software I use on it.

    Proton is great. I have seen it beat native processing in Windows on a few occasions, which I find interesting. Imagine if all games were built to run natively on Linux.

    Having said all of that, even as a programmer and a tech enthusiast, I absolutely DETEST the command line and avoid anything that uses it like the plague. I only use it if I have no other option. I much prefer my pretty GUIs. :D
     
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    There are easy to use, more introductory-like distros like Pop, Mint, and the like that are mostly GUI driven. Though you actually make things more complicated for yourself when you actually want to control the hardware. There's a learning curve with something like Gentoo for example, but I remember when Intel started rolling out microcode updates for mitigations - all I had to do was disable Intel microcode loading in the kernel, and then recompile and install it. Sounds complicated but it took 10 minutes, 3 terminal commands, and unchecking a box in the kernel configuration menu, and I'm suddenly immune to performance losses through new the microcodes. When you take the time to learn OS's that give you power, everything becomes really simple once you become familiar. Nothing good ever comes easy (at first).
     
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    Microsoft provides workaround for HiveNightmare registry vulnerability that affects Windows 10 and 11 neowin.com | July 21, 2021

    Microsoft has acknowledged the new HiveVulnerability flaw found recently in Windows 10 and 11 builds. The company is yet to patch the problem but has released a workaround for the vulnerability today.


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    Microsoft says that there will be a Windows 11 LTSC release, but it's a few years out neowin.com· Today

    Microsoft today announced during a Tech Community AMA that an LTSC release based on Windows 11 will ship a few years after the one based on Windows 10 version 21H2 ships this year.

    Microsoft officially unveiled Windows 11 last month, showing off the UI changes being made as part of a major update to Windows, among other changes such as the addition of support for Android apps. The company also shared more about the support and service lifecycle of the OS, adding that Windows 11 will move to an annual update cadence, unlike Windows 10. It has also been providing clarifications about the minimum system specifications, which has been a topic of discussion since the Windows 11 announcement.

    As for Windows 10, the firm recently detailed the features being added to version 21H2, the next feature update to Windows 10 – which is yet another enablement package. As part of that announcement, the Redmond company also confirmed that the next Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) version will be based on Windows 10 21H2 and will be released later this year. However, nothing in the way of information about Windows 11 LTSC releases was shared. That changed today, as the firm confirmed during an AMA on the Tech Community blog ( spotted by Petri) that the LTSC release after the one based on 21H2 will be based on Windows 11.

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    Stupidity have no limits...

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    Windows 11 kills drop & drop feature for taskbar, and users are not happy windowslatest.com - July 22, 2021

    Windows 11 is expected to launch in October and Microsoft has already revealed features that were removed or depreciated in the new operating system. Some key features like Timeline will be removed or replaced to reduce clutter, but some of the changes wouldn’t exactly be convenient and they could affect the way you use Windows on a daily basis.

    With Windows 11, the taskbar is losing support for some basic features and it might feel like a downgrade when compared to Windows 10. For example, the taskbar can only be used at the bottom of the screen. Windows 11 won’t let you pin the taskbar to other sides of the screen, according to Microsoft’s official documentation.
    ..
     
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    It won't. As much as I would love to use Linux there's so much software unavailable for it.
     
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    In another thread, someone raised the accusation that we were Windows haters. We're not, even though sometimes it feels like Microsoft is doing everything it can to turn us into haters.

    Just for fun, I tried remote desktop - connecting from a Windows 11 laptop to a Windows 10 laptop (my main PC). Of course Win 11 couldn't find my Win 10 on the network (same wifi, same room), so I put the IP address instead. No problem - connected, put in username and password (local account), and Bob's your uncle. Easy.
    Then I rebooted the Win 11 laptop and tried again. Screen opened for a fraction of a second, then vanished. Tried this several times. Blink and it's gone.
    Spent hours searching for a solution - someone suggested to change the resolution. Didn't work.
    Then I noticed that instead of a local account, remote desktop app was trying to connect using Microsoft account/<username> instead of just <username>. Fiddled around with that a few times, entering fresh credentials. Still no luck.
    So I gave up and went to my Win 10 laptop (my main PC - that I use for work).
    Couldn't log in. Each attempt would send me back to the login screen immediately. Fingerprint, password, PIN ... nothing worked. Restarted, shut down and started. Nothing worked. Spent a few more hours searching for a solution to this (far more serious) problem.
    Finally found a suggestion to restart in safe mode. Now which thrice damned low-life thought it was a good idea to put the option to restart in safe mode available after you've logged in? Held down the power button to intentionally crash shutdown the laptop a few times, and finally the safe mode option appeared. That fixed the login issue.
    Whew!

    So, no more remote desktop for me. Installed TightVNC instead. Worked out of the box. No fuss. Setting it up took less than a minute per laptop. Compare that to half a day effing around with remote desktop.
     
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    Bes sure you know where you get the ISO.

    SECURITY, MICROSOFT
    Fake Windows 11 installers now used to infect you with malware bleepingcomputer.com | Today

    Scammers are already taking advantage of the hype surrounding Microsoft's next Windows release to push fake Windows 11 installers riddled with malware, adware, and other malicious tools.

    While Windows 11 will start rolling out worldwide during early 2022, Microsoft has already made it available for install to all customers enrolled in the Insider program after officially unveiling it as the next version of Windows last month.

    However, hundreds of users have already downloaded installers from unnoficial sources are getting infected with malware, as Kaspersky security researchers discovered.
    How to enable old 'F8' Advanced boot options as 'Safe Mode' & 'Disable driver Signing' for Win10/8.1
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-11.836301/page-6#post-11108558

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    Edit. July 24, 2021

    Microsoft explains Windows 11’s new Start Menu and taskbar design windowslatest.com - July 24, 2021

    The next major version of Windows introduces a major overhaul of the UI. With Windows 11, Microsoft is ditching live tiles that first debuted with Windows 8 in 2012 and introducing a new interface.

    Windows 11’s centered Start and taskbar experience is the result of years of research and testing by a team of about 40 designers.

    Yep, 40 designers with same awful taste.
     
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    NO EXCEPTIONSOnly compatible systems receive Windows 11 computerbase.com | Today

    As Microsoft once again expressly underlined to the community in a Q&A session , only compatible systems will receive an update to Windows 11 . Neither a workaround nor changed group policies can change anything. This should keep systems " more secure and productive ".

    Microsoft makes no exceptions
    During the so-called AMA call (“Ask Microsoft Anything”), Microsoft informed its tech community that the system requirements for Windows 11 should be implemented without exception. In addition to an eighth generation Intel Core processor ("Coffee Lake-S") or newer, or a Ryzen based on the Zen +, Zen 2 or Zen 3 architectures, (f) TPM 2.0 is mandatory.

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    No chance for "tweaks" and "hacks"
    Microsoft would like to actively prevent the current workarounds for using Windows 11 without TPM 2.0 or active fTPM 2.0 based on the firmware of the mainboard and for installing the new operating system on older systems.

    The same should also apply to group policies and "tweaks" in the registry that have been adapted by administrators. Under “ Processors: From 8th Generation Core and Zen + ” and “ TPM 2.0 is officially mandatory ”, the editors have already outlined the possible “stumbling blocks” when switching from Windows 10 to Windows 11 in more detail.

    The distinction between an absolute minimum requirement (“hard floor”) and a recommended minimum requirement (“soft floor”), as communicated at the beginning, no longer exists.



    “We don’t want all of the admins or all of the consumers out there to have to constantly be thinking [about compatibility],” Microsoft officials said. “What we’ve actually done is bring some of that enforcement inbox so rather than you having to even think about it, your device will actually be able to determine by itself before ever being offered [Windows 11] and wasting that download”.

    Whats great with the TPM 2.0 requirements... No nagging ads about the upgrade to Win11 :) Aka Good for those who want to stick with Windows 10. TPM just has to be deactivated in the BIOS. Or you can do it through group policies . So far, Microsoft has officially announced that an 8th generation Intel CPU or AMD Zen +, Zen 2 is required to upgrade. Finally something worthy from Redmond Engineers.
     
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    N2ishun Notebook Evangelist

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    It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye... or access to things they wish to access.

    Because of this, they can plant a sloppy wet one on the part of my body which is below the belt and requires a mirror for me to see it. And, I am not kidding. If I wanted locked down, castrated, pathetic piece of garbage, I'd spend way too much for a crApple system.
     
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    Not sure. But double up of everything can't be any good :eek2:
     
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    And then it's just a game, find the eye.

    Sorry, off topic I know, but I just hadta :)
     
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    Windows 11 Home vs Pro Full list of features/differences: https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-home-vs-windows-11-pro/

    Note, you cannot set up Windows 11 Home with a local account only with an online Microsoft Account whereas Pro still allows you to set it up with a local account. Let's see if there's a way to bypass that when it reaches its final stage
     
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    Windows 10 LTSC is the modern Windows 7 with support for new hardware compared to all these new builds (including 11)
     
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    The Redmond Reprobates might just be throwing their poop against the wall to see how much sticks. If they are watching for reactions, they might tone down their Gestapo tactics a bit by the time it hits the RTM fan. If the sheeple don't pitch a big enough fit, then they'll probably go full crApple spider monkey control freak retard on us (what they'd like to do) and lock things down even more than what they are threatening to do now. It will be interesting to observe what level of assinine control freak idiocy actually develops with Micro$lop through Q1 of 2022.
     
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    Yeah. Like I mentioned earlier, controversy sells. This system requirements thing has generated a huge amount of interest and publicity for Windows 11. Was that intentional? Maybe - the marketing guys at M$ are certainly smart enough to be able to predict that and plan it that way.

    Anyway, I'm going to wait and see what the guys over at mydigitallife are able to do to roll back some of the idiocy.
    Btw. love what you did with the word assinine - gave me the first belly laugh I've had in weeks. :biglaugh:
     
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    Off topic but I got the first thing that prevented me from installing a program, hamster ebook converter, on win10. It says you must have .net 3.5 installed and won't run. From the online research I think it has to do with my having update turned off via sordum and winaero. There's no way to install it even with a windows installation nub, unless you have update turned on, my guess anyways. This has .net 4.8 or some such already installed, why the heck dont' they have older versions installed or that the current .net I have be backwards compatible? Ugh.
     
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    If we're going there, I am going for both of their eyes. Better yet, let's not beat around the bush... how about we just rip out the jugulars and call it a day?
    If you open Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the link on the left to Turn Windows Features On or Off, add the checkmark for .Net 3.5. While you're at it, might as well add the checkmark for the SMB 1.0 Client. Then momentarily enable Windows Updates before applying. The second it finishes, re-disable Windows Updates.
     
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