Hey.. thank you for your thoughts as I agree entirely.
Matrix deserves the focus no matter what on this thread. Knowing I felt a bit uncomfortable soap boxing my perspective.
It seems the insurmountable efforts are now the "checkmate" here as many have to cope with in any form of the system.
As you say, what's behind it all is vast and complex while every avenue to be heard is totally out of the "Peoples" hands.
Leaving the one true approach. "A change from within the system..." That is if only "human kind" is involved.
Your approval is deeply noted as all things out her are never private.
Peace to you... Awispersecho.
BTW, did a re-edit while you posted.
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Some more of the Windows Updates listed in the OP got re-released yesterday: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/894199
Specifically KB2952664 & KB2977759 (Optional, W7) and KB2976978 (Optional, W8/8.1).
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@stringbuzzzzzz @octiceps @6730b @Player2 @Awhispersecho @toughasnails @Mr. Fox @Ethrem
Please ensure you have KB3050265 ( Which fixes a major leak in Windows Updates that causes slow scanning and also adds the option to disable automatic update to the latest Windows Virus) then head over to Group Policy Editor and to this:
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Excuse my ignorance but where exactly should I go to download this update.? I don't have this one installed . I've never installed an update outside of using windows update. Thanksstringbuzzzzzz likes this.
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Two new patches this week, one claimed to be a scanner: 2976978 so not installing.
"KB 2977759, re-released for Windows 7 on Oct. 6, version 12. Analogous to the KB 2976978 patch for Windows 8.1, this one is also a scanner. The KB article says it's a compatibility update for Windows 7 RTM."
The other is 3083711 - it looks unnecessary to me, and so not installing.
"KB 3083711 is also new, and it appears to be an analogous update client change for Windows 8.1.
Be careful what you patch."
From: Windows 'snooping' and nagging patches return...
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I never had it but you can get it here. Just pick which W7 you have.
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I found it today on my new Windows 7 Pro installation. It appears at the end after I did another scan after installing all updates.Last edited: Oct 8, 2015stringbuzzzzzz and Player2 like this. -
Guys, on Windows 8.1 I rid myself of the Windows 10 upgrade app, systray, and upgrade downloads long ago, but there is an app I found that checks for, disables, and deletes the cached files the Windows 10 Upgrade downloads.
I ran it, and found that even though I had done everything I could find, there was still a bit set that kept me a "slap and tickle buddy" with the Windows Update OS Upgrade bit set, this app disabled it - requires a reboot.
Now I won't see any future Windows 10 Upgrade foray's from MS - at least that is the dream
Formerly known as GWX Stopper, now GWX Control Panel - download page:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
Details here:
http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html
Reference to GWX Control Panel, here:
How to clean the Windows 10 crapware off your Windows 7 or 8.1 PC
http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html
Here is what my GWX Control Panel looks like after I clicked "Disable Operating Systems Upgrades in Windows Update ", and rebooted:
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Pretty well said in the bottom of that article; The lesson is quite simple: If you have Automatic Update turned on, Microsoft owns your PC, and it can and will install anything it likes.hmscott and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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2 more updates to add to the list.
KB3083710: Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: October 2015 Link
KB3083711: Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: October 2015 LinkSpartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
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Matrix....
Anyone here like yourself preferably...
Able to best composed a draft regarding the "consumer right position" is
encouraged to do so on the matter.
Representative to all Win O.S. Owners, not asking for a Win 10 upgrade or preparations, to that end.
Example Header...
Part A.
A PETITION TO BLOCK MICROSOFT'S INTRUSIVE UPDATING AND PUSHING OF WIN 10 UPDATES AND ASSOCIATED ELEMENTS ON UNWILLING WIN O.S. CUSTOMERS AND USERS/RECIPIENTS.
Part B.
Make all effected O.S's, prior to WIN 10 update intrusions, made whole again. As defined by original customer expectations of standard usage.
link:
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/contact/comment
For someone like myself... having taking a powerless view at first...
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The description says it's for the Windows Update client, doesn't say anything about W10 upgrade or telemetry. Anyway, it's optional.TANWare likes this.
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Optional + vague info (windows update client improvement) + this makes me not want to install it
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I don't install optional updates anywayPapusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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Sorry but had to edit you post. That's one thing we cannot talk about....sorrystringbuzzzzzz and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
What a headache... I'm glad I finally decided to give Macrium Reflect a try because as soon as this install is set up properly, I'm backing up the image to both my desktop and my storage RAID on the laptop because this is tedious picking through updates... Microsoft needs to get sued again.
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Hey no worries, toughasnails. and sorry to matrix if it was an unknowing oversight, violating site protocol.
I do understand.
I did however ad a link. Maybe one of you fine gentlemen can survey my inclusion for any further
concerns and hide it's appearance with a alternate "click here" tab?
Hope that's not out of line, either.
And of course, I hope it all helps the cause.
Anyone wanting a copy of a "submitted request to a particular person that gets particular attention? lol." Please PM me and get access.
And thanx matrix for the reference you shared recently addressing an update. I'll get back to about it when my smoke clears here a bit..
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HEARD THAT!
May the farce not be with us.
BTW... That's a great idea.. I why was it not mentioned before...humM?Last edited: Oct 8, 2015 -
I made a dirty batch script to remove all those updates in the first post using wusa.
It does it all quietly, run it from an administrator command prompt and wait for it to say its done and then restart your computer.
It takes awhile to process the catalog but its a lot faster than manually removing them one by one.Attached Files:
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is this the best way to do this? Does it remove the installed updates, just those waiting to be installed, or both? I want to eliminate all the win 10 stuff on both my win7 laptop and my Alien running 8.1 but at this point there has been alot of suggestions and alot of combined info based on different versions of windows. Just wondering what the best, most complete approach isstringbuzzzzzz likes this. -
That batch file removes every single update listed in the first post. I set it on quiet mode because otherwise it would throw up a "not found" dialog box for every single one that was missing. It opens telling you that its uninstalling and when its finished it tells you to reboot.stringbuzzzzzz, toughasnails, Spartan@HIDevolution and 1 other person like this.
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Thanks a lot for this! Huge time saver to remove all bad updates in one go instead of manually hunting for them! Cheers!
PS: Feel free to edit the OP if you want to add your script in it as it will help others.Ethrem likes this. -
Go ahead and add it, that's why I posted it. I'm not much of one for fancy bold and colorful text stuff so go ahead and add it in how you want to. Let me know if you want it updated when a new problem update arises or feel free to edit it yourself (just give me the credit for the original script).
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Added to the OP and your name mentioned people let's thank this great mod who made my and everyone's life a hundred times easier! cheers champ!Ethrem and Awhispersecho like this. -
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yeah man, did it last night and seems to have worked well. Was a little nervous because it sat at "configuring updates 100% percent complete" for about 20 minutes. But all worked well. Used on my win 7 machine which I always had set to "notify me of updates but let me decide when to install". Just disabled win updates completely now. Don't need anymore on win 7 anyway. Whole thing took about 45 minutes. Much appreciated.
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Please give a rep point to the creator of the script @Ethrem he deserves it very well for this great time saving script
And good idea to disable Windows updates, we aren't getting any updates it seems other than these freakin' telemetry or Windows 10 forced preparation upgrades anyway. This is as good as Windows 7 will get right now it seems.Ethrem likes this. -
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One step ahead of you...did it this morning. Well deserved.Ethrem and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
I'm glad it's working for everyone. I figured it would save a lot of time and besides, its really easy to overlook an update and accidentally install it. No real harm running the batch script once a week to make sure you're good to go
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Which is exactly what happened to me, I missed out on one update and using this script, it was super easy to remove!!
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I agree here as well. While not always, usually, if the Server versions are mentioned it does not include the W10 upgrade or telemetry issues. We have to be careful not to spread FUD as if we are even wrong on one update it can be pointed out that we are just being blind and prejudiced. They will use the one error to make it look like we are all wrong, or just being paranoid, about the rest.
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These Windows updates nightmare are getting the attention of the news even:
Windows 10 Worst Features Installed On Windows 7 And Windows 8 - Twice -
Now should everyone soon know that the cancer from Redmond continues in earnest. Simply Disables/ forget Win update to 2020
. And forget the whole mess.
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I wouldn't go so far as to stop windows updates entirely. True, security in 7 is probably like fort knox by now but lets not forget the old school msmsgs garbage that affected even the most secure systems (like my own). There is always an exploit ready to be found.
As for being called blind, prejudiced, or paranoid? Well Microsoft made the mess and I will remain vigilant until they fix it, even if it means running my batch script every day!stringbuzzzzzz, hmscott, toughasnails and 1 other person like this. -
I meant KB3083710, it is meant for server too. I agree with @octiceps on that one.
Edit; they seem to be getting pretty desperate on getting people to upgrade. The addoption rate has slowed down substantially. I doubt they want the OS to be known as the one they could not even give away.Last edited: Oct 10, 2015stringbuzzzzzz, Papusan, Spartan@HIDevolution and 1 other person like this. -
Windows 10 - the OS to be known as the one they could not even give away.
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Nice to see this in such significant media. Much good wording in the article, "secret snooping patch" "sneaky" "nagware pop-up".Excellent.stringbuzzzzzz, Papusan, hmscott and 1 other person like this.
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stringbuzzzzzz Notebook Consultant
Yea... Very nice, indeed. Thanks Etherm... +reps... Well done.
Although it may be a simple task....
I'm simply terrible at PC/Laptop O.S. maintenance. (other that leaving the Auto Updates - ON)
Especially when there's no official doc. in the hidden file zone, etc..
A quick but complete, "step by step for dummies" would help me and possibly others out here.
Once the dirty descriptor
is in operation, Can I assume it is easily updated by adding in the latest
KB type threat of concern and removed as desired?
Yes Etherm... Speaking for myself... Please update as needed with a brief relevant description to the problem update.
On my end, I'll do what it takes, learning how to add in the ongoing problem update myself.... Hopefully sooner then later.
And again,
Many thanks to youEthrem and toughasnails like this. -
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"Privacy -If the enforcement policies were tough, however, they have nothing on the privacy violations Microsoft requests in the Windows 10 EULA. A notable section reads:
“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.”
Needless to say “necessary” is a crucial qualifier and this should mean Microsoft won’t violate your privacy for no reason, but that all comes down to trust – and there’s not a great deal of that going around in a post-Snowden world."
Until that "bug" is "fixed", Windows 10 is unusable.
Correction:
Until that "bugging" is "removed", Windows 10 is unusable.Last edited: Oct 10, 2015Papusan and stringbuzzzzzz like this. -
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Agree....
At the same time., Any court is a theater to the one that proves an exception or exposes misplaced precedence of "trust," or "good faith..."
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Nothing like confirmation to the positive. Maybe some peace will result... For awhile, anyway.
It must feel good Matrix, Ethrem, and all the others contributors.... Three cheers!!!Spartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
Question for you: How long should it take?
I ran it and it was about 2 minutes [maybe less].
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Solid State HD
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Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry
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Depends on how many updates it actually finds that it can uninstall from the list. In my case, it was about 1.5 or 1 minute since I only had update that slipped through my defence wall
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As the description says:
(Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1)
Why would anyone install it? Doesn't do anything good.
Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry
Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 23, 2015.