Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

http://www.zdnet.com/article/outlook-crashing-after-windows-security-updates-you-are-not-alone/

 

A member on the Toughbook forum just posted this....interesting

You may have upgraded to W10 as soon as humanly possible, but don't tell that to your PC manufacturer. As part of its tech support research, xxxxx has learned that at least Dell and HP are discouraging customers from updating to Windows 10, or even recommending that people roll back to older versions. When asked, both companies defend the practice. They're committed to Windows 10, but their ultimate goal on a support line is to fix your PC... even if that means reverting to old software.

http://www.hd.engadget.com/2015/11/05/pc-support-discourages-using-windows-10/

 

Yeah I read that on Twitter 5 or say days ago, funny, even OEMs are discouraging the upgrade, for the simple fact that they simply cannot handle the complaints/calls they would be getting from clients saying their touchpad or whatnot stopped working. Believe me 80% of the problems are caused by Microsoft's stupid drivers update through Windows updates!

What baffles me is, there is an option in the OS to not install device drivers/ info from Windows updates, so why does it not work? Why doesn't the OS adhere to the setting I have chosen? At first I thought maybe it was due to the rushed out build 10240 which was really worse than even the preview builds before. But now even with the new build 10586 its the same! I wish Micro$h4ft would comment on this and why they think they can play the Drivers God role and choose what drivers we want on our system!

Heck I even tried setting my connection to metered and set the setting to not download device drivers/info over metered connections as @Ethrem suggested, while that worked before, for some reason now it doesn't. I have to let Micro$h4ft choose the drivers for my system!

 

I think it looks good on them. I wonder if other manufacturers are doing the same. Trouble in paradise

 

This is going to blow up in their faces as a worse PR disaster than when Windows 98 BSOD'd behind Bill Gates on stage...

 

ROFLMAO Just gave me the laugh of the day!

 

Its a classic... Its *THE* classic example of the Windows experience... Apparently that still hasn't changed with 10... End user frustration!!! *SMH*

 

That was priceless... @Ethrem you made my day

 

The sad part is you would think Microsoft would have learned... It happened when they were demonstrating Cortana on Windows Phone and it happened with their Surface demonstration too... The Surface locked up and had to be swapped for another on stage so it may have well been a BSOD and the even worse part is that it was IE that locked it up! haha!

 

Finally just finished installing all of the Windows updates... Just ran the batch script. I never noticed that it changes your most recent check for updates to never. In fact its showing I've never installed an update of any kind... I guess wusa must reset everything?

 

or, you simply need not trust any thing / tool that comes from Micro$h4ft. Unreliable. Just forget it.

 

They all show up in installed updates, just not in the update history. Its odd but I'll take it.

 

Hello.

Thanks for the handy info.
42 pages..... (too much for me to go through )

I did the stuff on page one and 2. I got windows 7 home prem. Dutch version.

I executed the batch file, and used 3 blocker toolskits to get rid of IE 9, 10 and 11.
I also did all the stuff on the 4-5 pictures you showed there.

But after 2 reboots other older upgrades start to pop up.
I am not sure if they are old security hole fillers I need to install cause I killed some KB's that also did that, or that installing these will undo all the work I did of getting rid of MS crap.

What do I have to do with these new old updates?
Install or make invisible? Are they must-have's or not?

KB2484033: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2488113: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2511250: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2522422: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2598845: Update voor de compatibiliteitsweergavelijst in Internet Explorer 8 voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2706045: Beveiligingsupdate voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB2741355: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB3068708: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB3080149: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB3083324: Update voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen
KB3100773: Cumulatieve beveiligingsupdate voor Internet Explorer 8 voor Windows 7 voor x64-systemen

(sorry if you already told us at page 33 about these, but 42 pages is just a very big nr )

 

This "spying" nonsense never ends, does it? I don't know which is more amusing: the fact that people think Win10 is a keylogger, and that Microsoft employees are wasting thousands of man-hours slavering over every prurient word they write; or the fact that most people fantasize that the details of their lives would be of interest to anyone apart from themselves.

 

It does keylog by default, do I think I am actively being looked at well no. The problem is the data is then stored somewhere for someone later to look at or use. My private local data can be gone over as well. It is not what is being done right at this moment with the data. The extra data just needs not exist from the get go, end of story.

Peoples data of interest to anyone but themselves. Ever here of identity theft, trade secrets, blackmail or a host of other secret and/or nasty things out there today?

 

I don't entirely disagree. I'm just not ready to go into panic mode over MS's 'snooping' tactics, otherwise i'd be over in Russia with Snowden. It's a.... Brave New World! ~Aldous Huxley.

 

The fact that Microsoft is trying to force this Windows 10 cancer on us AND simultaneously adding in these "features" of Windows 10 to previous versions is cause for alarm without a doubt. I understand some of Windows 10, especially with its tight Cortana integration, but older versions lack Cortana so why are we being forced to put updates on our machines that share the same information?

 

If it isn't on the 1st page, it should be safe to install.

 

Ethrem.., I agree Totally.

As I can understand the perilous task here. I could be choosing other sites of interest.
And when this topic is too much to bare, I'll reassess my options.

Although, It won't include abandoning the principles that drive support for this thread's topic.
Nor, will it warp my perspective and "give in" to why a demand of accountability is in order
from M$.

As an Individual, I feel I o we it to myself and others to care enough and protect principle foundations in matters
endangering curtain freedoms.
Privacy from government/corporate intrusion?
Unless you've been in a coma, hatcher... One of the numerous threats to these foundations are under constant attack.
Corporate interests and a corrupt political climate sold us out. Plain and simple.

I suspect, Snowden understood the above and WAS READY to do it again, if he felt it was absolutely necessary..
Even though these principles are assumed to be The Self-Evident and "on the ropes." My comments should ring a bell.
A way of life, many lived and died for. And to that end, if necessary.

A way of life, to what degree? Considering this Idea started from those unjustly bound, and shackled to chains...
Ultimately.., An individual choice, as well. If bound to those shackles.. A choice that gets one's immediate attention.

When the many have to face and protect themselves from what's going down in so many forms...
"Whack A Mole" or not... All privacy encroachments and their consequences left unchecked.,
Will strip the "many to bare" if not questioned with extreme prejudice and intervention.
Let those encroaching give way to the panic.

While the outcome to this threads purpose is still left to the unforeseen...
Doesn't mean it's efforts in voicing and resisting unfair business practices go unnoticed.
Especially with some that spread a passive disregard to the big picture.

There's more to this concern than some are willing to confront or have the capacity to comprehend.

The important thing to understand is this hatcher...

The only fantasy one should avoid here is sticking one's head in the sand,.
While the threat of a NWO is at your backside, cracking a smile, loving your....... denial.

If that concerns you...
The cure for that is being willing to help others. It does wonders.
Can't have any cracking going on around here anyway...

It wouldn't be on topic.

 

Thanks for all the info.
VERY helpful !

It takes a while to wade through installed updates and those pending and cross-ref 'em all but it's well worth it !

I wound up having 8 installed but not any more !
The check tool gave the system a clean bill of health too.

I am wondering about a few things though.
Is it safe to install M$ Office updates. I normally do and I have 14 pending.
Is there any indication Office updates install telemetry or Win 10 upgrade components?

How is it determined that a particular update (not talking Office now) contains telemetry or W10 update characteristic and is it possible for us to check potential updates ourselves?

On a side note - I use Macrium Reflect and create a full C; image once a month, so if anything disastrous happens I can guarantee a *perfect* rollback...
ie if you install an update that won't go quietly, no problemo eh !

 

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Hi Morph000
As I'm not yet engaged with any regularity, the screening of questionable KB updates, and the
"hands on" approach needed to omit these ongoing updates either...

Someone else here would be a wiser choice for those answers/questions you're asking..

Meanwhile...
You might also to check the link I just posted above on this thread..
The link has a few topics including telemetry. I think there's additional links within that first link.

good luck.
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-edited
What caught my eye here was the rollback comments you stated using a backup image.
A backup O.S., imaged on another Drive or disks. A wise starting point with this topic.

I've been reliant on a third drive, "stashed away for safe keeping" containing the backup
image for years now. Ever since I ran multiple Hdd's, mounted in slide-mount hardware,
(aka caddies) making for quick swapping, in or out of a sever tower.

With things able to get mixed up quite easily using 5 identical Hds & hardware, etc..
A "third backup drive" makes mandatory sense, for instant OS recovery.

As safe master image never gets used unless there's a reason to either add additional
content.to the drive or overwrite an effected OS needing a fresh rewrite.

There's also a an "isolation drive" config that might be the thing with KB screenings.
I'll share the example by request if provoked. Seeing I don't want to explain it without
the details at this moment.

On the other hand... I find it ironic that the KB code this topic stems from is also about
"Privacy" concerns. Not just W10.

Is it accurate to assume you're still unable to avoid any data peeking..?
Even if and when, your primary disk receives a WANTED update?
And if...
If your primary drive gets an unwanted update, as your able to verify this by your own
screening confirmation... Is it still the case, that your private info, histories, and everything
retrievable, etc, are getting scanned for whatever, as well?

And lastly., If the drive in question wasn't compromised for privacy....
What is the method you're doing that ensures that possibility being repeated?

Why I would even ask such questions... As I'm expert in drifting off topic on this thread...
The following is just "food for thought" and doesn't require a direct reply.

If these updates are able to be interfered with or effectively stopped by circumventing MS
updates and/or national security safeguards... Well.., I'm sure were aware about resent
news events in Paris, 11-22-2015, still fresh in the mind's eye....
Having the ability to bypass curtain protocols that look into everyone's business would of
made a ripple by now. Whether we liked it or not.

This KB thing will always be a never-ending chore to attend if it doesn't already invite a visit
from big bro. As no one needs to convince me The U.S. is in the "Boogie Man" business...

Over coming the "Third Reich" made sure of that.
Which has me believing...
--This so-called war on terror., Is the terror itself.--

Bare in mind.., I'm still against these unwanted updates.., Intruding on my/our right to NOT have
MS force an OS on it's customers that I didn't choose the install yet or authorize any changes.
A process that warrants a great deal of concern for American values and established civil privacies in the balance.
They're out of line... Period.

Nevertheless...
If the authorities aren't at our doors, making us conform to their agenda...
I get the feeling we may be "pissing in the wind" with ineffective attempts, trying to be free
of the nature of Win 10's ultimate purpose...
An approved, government attached, Spy-Ware app. Courtesy of the NSA.

That's why I applaud the idea of resisting forced updates... Pissing windward, or not.

Thanks for lending an ear.
BTW... Welcome to NBR Morph000 !


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MS shilling nonsense never ends, does it? How the hitlerian EULA terms in Paragraph 3 of aka.ms/msa which IMPOSE A CODE OF CONDUCT SO THAT MICROSOFT CAN JUSTIFY SPYING ON ALL YOUR PRIVATE DATA, all those details of your life going on THEIR server with THEM as your ruler now instead of your country over whether you comply with THEIR undefined terms of 'illegal' and 'immoral' and 'harmful' and 'nudity'.. which terms, THEY break wholesale on your machine.

To the shill, this is just what others do (not true, only dictatorships have such terms in history, usually relegated to the Cheka, the SS or whatever the secret police in N. Korea are called). To the shill, this is all right and well and good what do you have to be afraid of?

So I hope that the shills become the butt of this thing. All anyone need do, is accuse the shill to MSFT, invoking 3a, at which point 3b will be enacted, and all the shill's material will be in MSFT's servers, so now the accuser can go to any third party whose data was on the shill's machine and ahem.. warn him. So now the third party sues the shill.

THEN AND ONLY THEN will the shill MAYBE realize why we sane people, get upset over MSFT spying.

 

1. Turn your Windows updates OFF, NEVER CHECK option.
2. Once a week when convenient, clone/full backup via Macrium (clone is better, live replica of your drive).
3. After cloning/full backup, THEN check for updates using Windows Update.
4. Hide the following:
3035583
2952664
2976978
2977759
3083710
3083711
3068708
3075249
3080149
3083324
3021917
3022345

5. AVOID 'Important', 'Recommended', and "Optional' updates unless you are sure what they do. Security Updates should be read also first, as many of them have nothing to do with your machine. The basic rule is, don't update what you don't need.

6. Run those updates, and if your machine works at reboot for the next couple of days, then you can just park your clone or backup until the next time.

7. FOR THERE WILL BE, a next time. Windows updates are the #1 threat to your machine, and that is especially true with Windows 10.

 

They seem like very old KB's. Where did they come from?
I killed IE 11,10, and 9. I think killing these activated them?

Am I not again installing 9 (, 10 an 11?) when I install them?
Am I installing, or REinstalling them now?
If my previous actions killed them, and I did the stuff on page 1 and 2 (killing IE 9 I did on my own account, was this good?), isn't reinstalling killing all that work again then?

 

I honestly don't know, I would Google them and see. I didn't do the IE downgrade stuff. I never use it but I'd rather have the latest version than an outdated one when I have apps that depend on it.

 

Thanks.

I follow your gist.

So far I've had no problems after deleting the following, a week ago:

KB2670838 - EVIL, but no problems on my system, so I left it installed
KB2882822 - left installed for now - no problems
KB2952664 - removed
KB2990214 - removed
KB3021917 - removed
KB3022345 - removed
KB3065987 - removed
KB3068708 - removed
KB3078667 - removed
I hid all Win updates I didn't want and none have moved themselves back to available, so all good there.
Funny thing was, having uninstalled the above I actually GOT a systray notification that a Win 10 update was available (never had an alert before)
Anyway, rebooted, ran the check tool and nothing found, no hidden folders or Win10 stuff of any kind, so all good

As far as "backups" go - I create an image rather than clone as cloning is primarily for drive migration.
Imaging also has the benefit that the filetype is unknown to nasty packages like Cryptolocker, so it gets left alone.
I do a cold image (ie Win5 PE environment) to a 128GB USB3 thumbdrive and periodically move that image to an encrypted USB external HDD, freeing up the thumbdrive for the next image.
I have not any known data disclosure that I know of, but it'd realistically be hard to tell anyway what a system process does without your knowing.
I run Kaspersky Internet Security [I trust the Russkies FAR more than US companies ;-) ]
I also use Spybot S&D 2.4 portable, and run weekly on demand
I also run Malwarebytes PRO on demand weekly
I used to use McAfee Stinger but decided to forget them due to their installing resident monitoring processes without permission ! Not good McAfee !!!!

I also ran DETEKT a few weeks back to check for government spyware - nothing found.
I also have 6 external USB HDD's for data.
All downloads etc go to C then progressively moved off to an external drive.
Once that drive is full it gets "archived" and stored off-site for security.

Hope that helps you !

But back to my original request - if anyone can offer input on how to assess Win updates for Win10 aspects or telemetry I, and no doubt everyone else, would like to know how.

 

Would you mind elaborating on the red text? Do you mean how one who has Windows 10 assesses the Windows 10 forced updates, their content, the differences in Home and Pro and the delay factors? How someone knows what the content of the telemetry is?

I'm not sure what that reddened text seeks to know. Thank you for your time!

 

I am a little confused to. Are you asking what telemetry is ?

 

I'm asking HOW has it been determined that the list of updates back on Page 1 are Win 10 and/or telemetry related.
eg were they disassembled or decompiled ?
Was traffic related to the files they install monitored?

 

OK I see. If you go back to page 1 and click on one of the "KB's" it will take you to M$ page where it will give you the description of it...well in a way but sometimes you need to "read between the lines" so to speak.

 

I check the M$ site for info for each update, but as we all know, vagueness is the order of the day for M$.
If M$ don't wake up FAST as to what their customers WANT, they will go the way of the Dodo.

I predict the next major meltdown to be before Xmas 2015, so this may well all become moot anyway..

 

Looks like your prediction already turned true, read what Ed Bott just posted, here.

My face is still puffy from crying. Poor guy spent all that time explaining Threshold, only to be reversed. Read his article, you can tell he's upset.

Gotta stop typing now, tears restarting.

 

Hi, just want to ask why is KB3078667 on the list? I read the part of the article mentioning it and theres nothing wrong about it, at least if i understand it. Heres the article from OP: http://www.computerworld.com/articl...s-beg-microsoft-for-more-info-on-updates.html

 

I just did a fresh install of W7 and I can tell you that as long as you only install important updates and hide recommended/optional ones, you have nothing to worry about. Most of the updates in the OP fall into the latter category, plus the list is quite outdated as many of them have been superseded. The only important update I've not installed is KB3086255 (disables SafeDisc games) because I play a lot of old games. I've hidden all recommended/optional updates except for installing KB2670838 (W7 Platform Update) and KB2852386 (adds Windows Update Cleanup option to W7 Disk Cleanup).

Another thing I've found to be helpful specifically IRT to clean installing W7 is to manually install KB3102810 first before checking for updates for the first time, otherwise it will hang on checking for updates for hours while using a lot of CPU and leaking memory. It also adds a Group Policy item (in the Pro, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions) to disable updating to W10. Note that this update is superseded every month, so the KB# will be different in the future, but KB3102810 is the most recent iteration as of November 2015.

 

Nice catch, the article (as it exists right now) uses KB3078667 as an example for a "good description" of purpose - the article as about KB's lacking descriptions.

But, doesn't it seem weird to use a Windows 7 KB description as the only example of a good purpose description for KB's, in a Windows 10 article??

Windows 10 users beg Microsoft for more info on updates
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...s-beg-microsoft-for-more-info-on-updates.html

I did look around and found some patch day release discussions, such as this one that says it's ok as well as what isn't ok

"ptd163, on 19 Aug 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:
"KB3075249, KB3077715, KB3078667, KB3080149 were served by Windows 7 WU as optional updates yesterday. What's the verdict on them?"

KB3075249 and KB3080149 are telemetry updates, hence no-no. Tho other two are OK."

How to avoid being "upgraded to Win 10" against your will:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/173...g-upgraded-to-win-10-against-your-will/page-7

It looks like this one can be removed from the list @Matrix Leader :

KB3078667 (Claims to fix memory leaks in dwm.exe but also is a Windows 10 upgrade preparation according to this article)

 

KB3078667 removed from the list as per this article

 

Here are all my Win updates for Win 7 Ult. Is there any that I should have in addition to these? Only if there are patches for performance gains.

 

Yeah.. thanks, Morph000.
It does help. And it sounds like you're handling the screening with this thread's best advisers, as well. I love those "Phat" usb3 thumb drives. I bought a 256MB ver. about a month ago
I'll be looking into Macrium Reflect.
I was in a bit of a hurry when I posted my first reply to your initial post, so it's been re-edited some.., If you care to review it.

And good luck, once more.

 

Besides Destroy Windows Spying for Windows 7/8/10 ( http://dws.wzor.net/ ), there are other tools, mostly for Windows 10 but some also work on Windows 7/8.

Here is a list I found published in August and updated mid-September.

Windows 10 Privacy Tools
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/

Spoiler

Links and image of list from article... *'d the ones I use on Windows 8.1

Windows 10 Privacy Tools

The following programs are reviewed and compared against each other:

1. Destroy Windows 10 Spying * Main site link: http://dws.wzor.net/
2. Disable Win Tracking
3. DoNotSpy 10
4. Windows 10 Privacy and ****
5. Windows 10 Privacy Fixer
6. W10 Privacy
7. (new) Shut Up 10
8. (new) Spybot Anti-Beacon for Windows 10 *
9. (new) Ashampoo AntiSpy for Windows 10
10. (new) Windows Privacy Tweaker *

If you run across any other privacy tools, please post the url / info here.

 

Bleh, I should've checked the updated KB list. I now have the annoying Windows 10 update icon, each time I log in it pops up the Windows 10 download in the update center, and I can't uninstall the KBs causing it.

F U Microsoft.

 

It's not too late

You can use GWX Control Panel to remove Windows 10 Update from Windows update, clear the cache of files downloaded (if they exist), and delete the Windows 10 upgrade folder, all through this app.

It will ask for a reboot after removing option for Windows 10 upgrade through Windows update, but I pass on it and continue to run the other cleaning options before rebooting.

This is what it looks like after running all features:



GWX Control Panel
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

 

Slashgear - NSA has ended its bulk data collection
JC Torres - Nov 29, 2015
http://www.slashgear.com/nsa-has-ended-its-bulk-data-collection-29416285/

Spoiler

" Privacy advocates have scored a major victory this Sunday as the National Security Agency of the United States finally shuts down its en masse surveillance program that has left many of its own citizens vulnerable to invasions of privacy. But though the new Freedom Act does curtail the NSA's powers, it of course does not completely nip it in the bud. Instead of bulk spying, the agency will have to target specific people or groups which they can then monitor for months, of course with a court order and the cooperation of involved telecommunications companies..."

" For some lawmakers, the ending of this NSA power couldn't have come at a worse time. The recent attacks in Paris, for which ISIS has taken responsibility, has seemingly underlined the need for even greater surveillance. Republican lawmakers wanted to delay the implementation of the Freedom Act's provisions, but considering the deadline as well as the upcoming 2016 elections, that might not be possible for at least a while..."

Voice of America - US Agency Says It Ended Bulk Telephone Data Collection
http://www.voanews.com/content/us-ending-bulk-telephone-data-program/3078721.html

"The NSA says it ended the program at 4:59 UTC Sunday (11:59 p.m. EST Saturday), replacing it with the new, scaled-back system."

National Public Radio (NPR) - NSA Ends Sept. 11-Era Surveillance Program
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...7/nsa-ends-sept-11th-era-surveillance-program

Spoiler

" Sen. Ron Wyden, who led the charge to end the program, hailed its demise in a written release saying the program "needlessly violated the privacy of millions of Americans every day, without making our country any safer."
Wyden added: "This is a victory for everyone who believes in protecting both American security and Americans' constitutional rights."

" Wyden added: "This is a victory for everyone who believes in protecting both American security and Americans' constitutional rights.""

" It's worth noting that today marks the end of one of the most controversial parts of U.S. surveillance but other parts remain untouched.

For example, the PRISM program, which was also revealed by the Snowden documents and collects a vast amount of Internet data, continues to operate. ..."

Slashgear, VOA, and NPR are the first outlets reporting on this today...

 

I find there's a thin red thread of irony here between the vital reasoning that clearly validates
maintaining nation security and the safeguards that stand guard over cyber attack prevention
protocols, etc.
While we'll still having to trust our established Intelligence Community. Ah... ya... Right.
This end to spying on U.S. citizens has infrastructure. Tear it out..

-edit
Cameras and listening tech in my media components and appliances,. PG&E Smart Meters
that listen and collect data from appliances while also multitasking a deliberately harmful
band of RF/EMF in a 90 foot radius per meter location... edit-
Where does it end..? Chem trails? Monsanto? Fukushima?

Until we can find a better way...
I will say It's hopeful to see one of numerous programs related to surveillance, stopped.

Although., I do prefer reversed. As in., Dismantled, stripped, removed.
Otherwise., They can just flip a switch and they're in business again.

If this country has any chance to regain some footing for the kind of governance that protects
and honers the U.S.Constitution and it's intent., Which obviously is in constant debate...
we'll have to face it with current times, coping of much change and legal loo polling.
The privilege to govern one's own destiny as mandatory guardians provided by "a government
for the people as self evident," is NOW.

Meanwhile...
Even with all what's stated in this NPR report... I can concede that a looking glass internet
must have some purposeful roll to play in the real world. And here to stay on some level.
And there in lies the "grey area."
How much, when to, what for, where sent, to whom, etc. An imposition, no matter how you
cut it.

Although, I agree this post is on topic.,
With this NPR report.... How does it effect MS's Win 10 spyware licensing?
Or does MS just flip the bird to congress like usual?
(They do seem to get away with that kind of thing., Playing their cards for self preservation.)

I can only assume that their still in bed with the N.S.A..

Have a round on me... NBR.
Now go take a fat bat to your Smart Meter., If ya got one... With Goggles please.



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Emf in a 90 foot radius around meters? Care to back that up with some evidence?

Also, EMF falls off as r^2, so if it's not a negligible field strength at 90 feet, then I can probably cook stuff at less than one foot.


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Hey...

I just wanted to write that I'm back and following the forums again. Last weeks were horrible. I found out, that my computer was severely hacked by someone. The only thing I found out was, that some Trojan agent was used, and I only discovered that after having manually deleted lots of registry entries and hidden hard-drive-folders manually, which disabled the stealth-capabilities of the virus partly, making MBAR and TDSSKiller able to find parts of it. Most Anti-Malware-Software was completely useless, NOD32 i. e. never found anything, because it was completely modified by the Virus, ofc., nothing of this could be seen, just like the 50GB+ of hidden folders on my SSD! Now ofc., I have show hidden and sytem folders on as an option all the time, but these folders, I only was able to see after booting from USB and then dir /a in the admin-command-prompt... I still don't know, what had infected my computer, but I'm guessing, that it was something highly developed, because the Malware survived more than five re-installs. It hid everywhere, i. e. in the system volume information folder, the recycle bin or all of those folders, to which the user normally doesn't have access. Even after installing Win 7 newly from DELL's OEM disk, the Malware was directly activce again, after the first time I connected to the internet via my router, so I had to set up that one again too, disabling all UPnP functions, securing it with a new password and flashing the firmware. My Browser had more than 200 completely hidden extensions... It's unimaginable, how heavily my computer was infected, and what this malware could do. It i. e. used hijacked Microsoft system files and Intel files, which still showed as digitally signed and weren't detected as malicious even in Virus-total or ESET Online scan. It was able to modify autostarts from the systeminternals suite, so that only a few seconds after autostart was started, none of the virus-entries were shown anymore. Once I had partly deleted the virus and had downloaded systeminternals newly, it showed more than 200 autostart entries and to end this, the most astonishing thing was, that my Windows error log had a size of 15GB, because of all the security related exceptions, firewall modifications etc. Even the task-manager didn't show the hit, that the virus had on performance, sometimes, it showed that the processor was 99% idle and that 15 of 16GB RAM were free + negligable I/O activity, while I knew, that that couldn't be true, because my fans were running at high speed and because the system even lagged sometimes when moving a window around.

Well, I only wrote all of that, because I feel connected to this site and thought, that it was necessary to share this info, because most of us trust in software like NOD32, Sysinternals or task-managers with virus-total scans. Just give yourself the fun, boot from USB and see if you can identify the folders on your system-drive + their contents. Or use FRST (and maybe also OTL) to make a log of your system, showing you what really starts up when you start it, which applications are hidden from your view and any modifications you have on your system.

What I also wanted to write, is, that I'm back on Win 7 Pro again. I asked for a lot of opinions on the Win 7 or Win 10 topic, and now I can finally make myself my opinion and I'll report about it. What I can tell right now, is, that Windows 7 felt "snappier" right from the start. Downgrading to Win 7 Pro from Win 10 Pro was no problem btw., even though I was past the 30d trial-period of the Win 10 upgrade. I had to phone with Microsoft once, but I just told them that I used Win 10 before and would be back on Win 7, and they gave me the necessary information to activate my copy of Win 7 Pro, no questions and no discussion necessary .

I'm still very cautious to feel safe and happy again, because of what I wrote in the first §, I still don't trust my system again, but hopefully, all scans during the next days will stay clean.

 

You can add "kb 3050265" to the list. It's an optional update that allows to block all Win 10 upgrade updates via 3 different methods, moving a file, registry hack or group-policy. The update released before, "kb 3050267" which is in your list, doesn't block Win 10 updates via group-policy reliably, so I guess this one is a fix of 267.

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I checked again, I got no 267 update. I'm guessing, that you made a typo and wrote 267 when it is 265. . The biggest discovery btw. was, that one can search a specific update with F3 in the Programs screen of the Control Panel .

 

Maybe the confusion lies here...
http://www.lessemf.com/smart.html

Correction....
"Cameras and listening tech in my media components and appliances, PG&E Smart Meters
that listen and collect data from appliances while also multitasking a deliberately harmful bands
of EMF in a 90 foot radius per meter location."

The quoted comment above was offered in reference to one of many angles one's privacy
is intruded upon by entities, thought responsible for the public's safety and interest.
In this case., RF should of been included with EMF, In the home environment.

A correction edit was inserted as RF/EMF, (Radio Frequency / Electromagnetic Field) aka
forms of radiation.
The "90 foot radius" reference still stands as a reported reference. RF concerns found all over
the net will bare the specifics. I first heard of the claim over three years past.

Thank you for addressing any need for clarification..

Back on topic please.

 

w8.1 > https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3112336

lol

 

Sorry, but that site looks like something out together by a tin foil hat wearer (or someone taking advantage of those folks - only $350 for a "smart meter shield"?). I'm still calling shenanigans.

ALL forms of radiation/fields fall of as r^2, so I repeat - if there's a non-negligible field strength at 90 feet, it will cook things at 1 foot.

If you'd like to buy a mobile personal radiation shield for your head (tin foil hat), I only charge $200.


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Wow... I'm not biting, Alex... My correction that, EMF doesn't have a 90' radius, was addressed
with RF that does reach beyond safe limits... The link isn't a submission of proof either.
Use your browser for the that.

Having literal meaning of electrical principles argued., Words put in my mouth...
Just tell us Smart Meters are harmless and move on.
As if you feel good about letting an infant be tended to and left to sleep nightly next to a wall that has a smart meter mounted on the other side.
Nothing is to be concerned of here, right.?

The burden of evidence is on the apposing view.

And not hijacking this thread would be a consideration, as well.
Your "drive-by" Mod Cop routine gets old for many. Sometimes a bit misplace, IMO.

Back on topic, please.