Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

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Hello all, sorry to ask here but I have a doubt and this threat has a lot of subjects.

I own a M17X R1, I will buy an R2 motherboard plus heatsink for the cpu (I have 2 i7-940xm) so this is the first upgrade for my M17X if someone has a spare motherboard to sell it would be great.

I also have a M15X which need a new motherboard (it burned due to a bad charger) anyone has a spare one? I bought one through aliexpress but it was with a defect had to return and the seller confirmed.

Now which one should I upgrade to a better GPU?

I love my M17X the construction of this beast for me surpasses the M15X.
So I would prefer to upgrade more the M17X and stay the M15X with the 8970 but I read that to upgrade the M17X requires to change the LCD and the cable connection..
Do we have a dedicated threat for this huge upgrade for the M17x R2? I wanted to have ate least the 980m since the price had a huge decrease.
The guy that made the mod of the cable could sell us those cables with mod?

Thank you for the help!

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You are a decade late to this party. You will need M17x R2 motherboard, M17x R2 daughterboard, as well as top case from M17x R2 as it has a different cutout to fit the heatsink/chipset. You can directly swap in LCD, no mod is needed though many opted to buy the RGBLED panel for its incredible picture quality and wide gamut. It was a $1200 option from Dell at the time and it exceeded Adobe RGB coverage if I remember correctly. Best video card for M17x R2 is Clevo 8970M, all 900 series cards will not work at all, and all other nvidia cards will require HWINFO to operate the fans. Good luck!

 

Guys, i'm currently installing Windows 10 on a M.2 AHCI drive on the secondary MXM port of my Alienware 18 through one of the adapters! news soon!

 

So adapter works well? Where u get that?

 

I'm writing a full tutorial... just wait for it

 

I see a while back the list of laptops that had GPU's upgraded successfully. But I don't see what it was before and after the upgrade.

I have the MSI GT75 8RF 1070 SLI.

 

M18X R1 works with K610M.
Using the M18X to flash the K610M for a imac

 

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/
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Thread for 2009-2011 21.5/27" iMac's. Using a K610M for my 2011 27" until my K3100M arrives. This also enables modern MacOS support assuming you upgrade the GPU.

 

I did something. I'm not ready yet, cooling problem. I give a lot of photos.
MSI GT70 (MS-1763) ......... Nvidia Quadro RTX 5000 .... (an msi max-q bios is now on it)

 

More photos ....The card wide does not fit properly. It's a little tilted, good.

 

Looks to be in line with an overclocked 1070

 

I have to do my cooling and send photos.
Not 1070 ..... benchmark scam. At much more speed and even there is dlss. Heaven and earth in reality.
2048 cuda vs 3072, gddr5 vs gddr6...stb
Currently, the bios is only 80W, thread it later better, faster. The card if I know 110W.
This is now for me safety, comfort, perfect.

If the gpu is only 600Mhz(max 60W) it is still faster. Average 40 fps with max graphics. And it's just a game. At this vbios, even vram is low.

 

Nice fire strike score with max q vbi

nice FS score with max q vbios, you are in optimus? Or peg with gsync?
You should to use thermal grizzly it is perfect too keep cool the gpu and surely u can to handle 110w and so on. Anyways to get the gpu sit on mxm socket u can use a large thermal pad under the gpu pasted in the mobo It should be fixed even without screws

 

19k graphics is what I was able to get on my 1070 iirc been a while so I could be wrong I suppose.

 

Yes, but he gets 19K FS graphics with only 80W vbios. With 110W is going to be very different story...

 

19K on GTX 1070 with +115 tdp + well clocked curves
If rtx 5000 reach that in 80W with messed up clocks
i think that should be get 23K/24k with the right tdp and clock curves

 

Yo , so it does works well?
i read about one guy that tried to use it for egpu and managed to get work

 

You might want to curb your optimism, quadro are static so if the card is already hitting max clocks tuning won't do anything.

Plus his unit already at 75c on 80w.

 

Perhaps, but I checked on notebookcheck and they get nice scores

 

And none of those laptops are the same as what is being used here.

75c at 80w isn't good especially with the other screen shots displaying 81c. Quadros are much more restrictive since stability is key so even if you got a 115w vbios working it's not going to help much in this use case.

It's not a bad card, but right now it's basically a tuned 1070 with more vram.

 

I don’t know maybe he doesn’t have a good cooling system, thermal pads etc.
I’d like to try it on my AW18. I get 60/62 degrees max at 3000rpm and 90w tdp gtx 1060

 

~2000$ for RTX 5000, which is at best 1080 Max-q... no, thanks.

 

If you are using it to make money then thats a different argument but I was getting 54c on my 1070 @ 120w on my Ranger. The p5200 makes more sense from a price perspective but even then a tuned 1070 still makes more sense if its just for gaming or some feature you must have in the rtx 5000. Again its not a bad card or anything but the price / performance isnt there yet.

 

How did you managed to keep 54c? That’s crazy for long full load 120w task in these laptops without very noises fans. Anyways I don’t like either quadro or expensive stuff that doesn’t worth for what they really offer. Gtx 1070 it’s the best thing as for price/quality. And with the right gpu and vbios flash it can reach 1070TI performances that’s good enough for 1080p displays.

 

Even though legacies quad core cpu sometime can bottleneck, cyberpunk doesn’t reach FPS above 45/50 in the center with an 4940mx OCed at 4.3 with nice bios tweaks

 

Ranger was better at managing thermals, and I enhanced my cooling in various ways. You wont be reaching 1070Ti performance on SG mode as you lose 15% or so depending on what you are doing.

CyberPunk is open world so thats to be expected.

 

You don’t loose 15% performances just it has major latency before that dgpu renders one frame. Similar story with sli gpus. In best scenarios with 100% scaling application performance were almost 2x but loosing 1 frame. If u see lowers score on benchmark that’s normal because they count every single frame per second but in game u will no see almost any difference. It will loose performance in window mode/ borderless in exclusive full screen performance are the same.

 

I sold off my AW13 R3 because optimus (or SG mode in your laptop) basically made my laptop unplayable on the internal panel. Also I ran it side by side with my MXM 1060 that I had in my Ranger before moving up to the 1070 and it was worse off on my AW13 R3 despite my R3 being 4 years newer than the Ranger. Latency is huge factor and ultimately what led that machine to sit in my closet for a year before I sold it off for something else but the performance wasnt adequate either.

 

You loose performance by using SG instead of PEG, when I was messing with my M6700 I managed to enable both (dual internal screen) and I was loosing between 10 to 20% when I simply drag and drop the windows from the eDP display drived by my (old) P4000 to the LVDS one in "SG" (drived by the iGPU) I could saw live performance decreasing in REAL TIME, no reboot neither reopening the game/benchmark.

 

Look at this.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14288627
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Max-Q

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14289177
NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q

 

That's right. Unfortunately my cooling is bad, I can't use my laptop properly. I need some more time.

 

There will be no other vbios. I tried and the card didn't go. Either my card or my laptop won’t let me.
As if it were ......
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-rtx-5000-max-q.c3432

I use this and it's perfect.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/220056/220056

 

It won’t be faster, there would be a lot for the laptop. That's good. However, synthetic tests do not give back actual performance.
In fact, I think so I have an rtx 2070 performance .... dlss power on etc .... if my cooling is good and nothing takes back.
Well good rtx 2070 Super Maq-Q.

 

I have one of these cards for sale. 150W vbios. My machine doesn't know the 150W load. Only 120-130W .... MSI AB (UV)


Another rtx 5000 test with another machine.

 

80W and 60W (600Mhz) now with me.

Only on the basis of 60W average 40fps. Right for me. And if my cooling is good then turbo 80W at 50-60fps max graphics. The cpu at 80W is low, but there are a lot of fps ..... MSI GT70 is happy for it.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7807973 RTX 2070 mobile

 

There is a reason why Quoting exists, please do not rob other threads of their visibility by posting 6 times in a row

Also, a P5200 can run in line with the RTX 5000. Prema demonstrated that some time ago, although its worth mentioning I believe he put some magic into it as by default runs more like we expect.

 

You forget that neither the 1070 nor the p5200 has Ray Tracing and DLSS, so they are much slower. Plus, the P5200 consumes a lot.

 

It seems you might have some selective reading.... I specifically stated in a previous post that unless there is a feature you specifically want, that it doesnt make much sense. Meaning, if there is a specific feature that then it makes sense, otherwise not so much.

P5200 has 150w and 115w configurations. At 120w I was able to cool my 1070 to 54c at full prolonged loads under standard thermal paste, and if it wasnt for my motherboard EC I would have no issue in cooling 150w. You will recall the conversation I was having with another member (not you) referring to pushing the 1070 to 1070Ti levels which means 175+ watts which is more than the aforementioned P5200.

Again Im not crapping on the card, I am merely stating that its not a good value proposition at this time. This will of course change over time (hopefully).

Also Ray tracing requires additional die space to run specifically those tasks. If you have all the RT performance in the world and no rasterization you are not playing any games to begin with. So to say one is better without mentioning the other attributes is like bragging about your drag car with no gas tank.

For you it makes sense from a functional standpoint as you were able to maintain your performance level while dropping 35w of heat dump which allows you to sustain your CPU core clock without overheating. Its a net positive move and I commend you for seeking it out Just keep in mind that not everyone has the same scenario when considering this card.

 

I read it back and tried to get involved. I'm not a professional at this, I just want to. For me, the main consideration is the graphical advancement of the current machine. And it’s very important how much it costs most people, for me that was a secondary issue now. I want a custom laptop. I want to use my old laptop for everything, even gaming, for as long as I can. The mxm card was both expensive and cheap. It depends on what we look at. It was 800 euros. I’m selling my previous card and I’m coming out cheaper already.
This card can be used without schooling using the MSI bios as if I had bought my laptop from the factory. Very comfortable. I feel like I was lucky.

 

AMD is developing something like dlss but using directML API so it will for everyone has an dx12 gpu that cool. RT or will die in the future or will be the one. Still rasterisation it’s on the base of every game. Anyways AW18 keep very well so SG. I get on pair scores and gaming experience just frames are weaker in some games that doesn’t support true full screen natively or I saw same games that make go slower gpu utilisation with vsync enable . In FS I get +12500 I saw on notebookcheck that an desktop FE one has median 12800. Plus , I have it on the second slave slot I don’t know why exactly but works better in there no way that goes in throttling when reach his tdp limit just it will keep on that tdp

 

Hello guys,

So I've obtained Toshiba x770 with dead GTX 560M (MXM 3.0B 1,5GB DDR5), and was curious whether I could install some other one since 560m isn't available near me. I've learned reading on this forum it should be possible to install MXM 3.0B and even A in that slot, and than BIOS should allow it.

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated, as don't know which GPU could be compatible and what other requirements are necessary in order for it to work. I'm mostly curious about bus speed, memory width and such as whether it is limiting factor.

edit: I've found mobo schematic stating "NVIDIA N11E-GS, 192bit with 1.5GB/3GB", which, when I searched the code was GTX 460M. So, i guess that 460m would be good substitution. Yet, I'm curious about upgrading it with like 570M, 670M which are both 192bit, GDDR5, MXMB 3.0b.

Thank you again.

 

I think yes, you can install another card.
I'm here now with the MSI GT70 ..... although I'm not quite done with that yet.

 

Thank you for the reply.
So, I've searched for your model, and it said GTX870M was originally in there. So, my question is, you can actually put GPU with GDDR6 instead of GDDR5? I thought it was same as with RAM. I had no idea.

 

No, vRam has nothing in common with system RAM and isn't influencing the compatibility of the GPU with the system.

 

What and if you can upgrade is highly specific to each model. What works for one doesnt mean it will work for another. Unless you can find precedent then you are in uncharted territory.

As this thread is for generating a list of what is already known to be working, it would be best to make your own thread and ask for assistance there.

As far as I can see on the internet, no other card besides the 560m has been documented to work on that system.

 

Interestingly, a friend of mine (my laptop mechanic) will gift this in the future. I know it's not going to be a laptop anymore. The goal is to sanctify the tool and curiosity. So far I have not been able to solve the good cooling. I actually broke a heat pipe.

Card installation status, with me! There is an optimus ..... this is very important. There is a good bios that the driver still accepts, the key is in the NV driver! Modifying a driver is also a good thing, not hard for me.

One tip: if you don't see the card, delete the Intel HD driver and dvga will appear after rebooting. This also happens (sometimes, rarely when I remove and reinsert the card), now I can't put the card down completely, it tipped in one place ..... for me the upgrade has always been easy, my machine accepts some help as new hardware. This RTX 5000 (other interface) is a bit heavy nut ..... gtx 880m, gtx 980m was light. The GTX 1070, the Quadro P5200, was more difficult to install. Good vbios are important!

GDDR6 (384.0 GB / s) ??? The card is not in place.
PCIe x 16 3.0 @ x8 1.1 (x4 1.1) ???

 

Some results with this cooler.

 

A few more photos .....

 

Any chance at running eDP or is that not something the GT70 has the ability to do?