Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

Guys not sure how to add the result to root post but just want to add P770-Dmg successful upgrade to quadro P4000m
Let me know what data is needed

 

A screen shot with gpuz or hwinfo64 would be lovely thanks for sharing

 

Sure i will provide screens ASAP ) I was also able to make work Quadro M3000M awa M4000M Have no screenshots since I sold cards already ... or... i will check may be I have some

 

Quadro P4000m - https://monosnap.com/file/iVngbfw9bOkQydJSj0b7fqVtd7gu7a GPU-Z - https://monosnap.com/file/CiFjAUS8cQ6lsffb1SZ8RMKiQmmShw

 

Could you run 3dmark FS & TS? I want to compare to my P4000 in M18xR2.

 

Sure when i will have a chance

 

Time Spy - https://monosnap.com/file/6nEmqaSKg7o1ScA84Sgb681RjJswLG
Fire Strike - https://monosnap.com/file/CUxcu1YB2XUJ7aRXUi9xRR3EUMNK7o

 

Interesting...this is a old run I did when I got my P4000: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23908504

I am under Optimus though using 1600Mhz RAM. Next test will be with 2133Mhz RAM.

 

that's basically the same performance, the 3920XM is just a pretty weak cpu comparing to the 9600KF, furthermore 2133MHz ram doesn't help a lot (I tried 32GB of 2133MHz on my M6700 with 3920XM @4.2GHz and P4000)

 

Hello! I'm looking for an MSI vbios. Specifically this.

NVIDIA_DEV.1EB5. 12C6.1462 = "NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 with Max-Q Design
%NVIDIA_DEV.1EB5. 12C6.1462% = Section172, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1EB5&SUBSYS_12C61462

I hope to get more than 80W. I can't find anywhere I can get it.

Unfortunately, MSI is important because I can’t change that anymore. Driver modification does not work for me. There is no picture on restart, everything is dark. That's why it's important, you need something that goes up on its own. Which you don't have to tinker with. The Quadro P5200 was still good. The optimus worked. It's harder here. I'm using this now ...... 80W (600/1500/1350)
NVIDIA_DEV.1EB5. 1274.1462 = "NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 with Max-Q Design"
The GPU-Z is so faulty ..... mixed. Unfortunately.

I had Nvidia vbios (930/1500/1455) and went but after reboot black screen received. Even before that, I measured these at boost 90W.
My card is 110W Max-Q.
Could you help me find what kind of person I need to look for in this matter. Of course I would pay for it.


(( MSI WSGT70 2OCXXL (Gold Edition), i7-4940MX, 32GB DDR3L 1600Mhz CL11, 2TB SSD + 4TB HDD + 1TB SSD + 512GB microsd,Nvidia Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q 16GB ))

 

I think that oficially by MSI there is just MAX Q vbios design.
the only way to get more tdp limit it's by flashing custom vbios manually with spi flasher like ch340A if am not wrong.
you can use pascal tdp tweaker to change tdp of the original vbios that you are using it should works even with turing cards

 

Was you able to tweak a pascal card ? I tried and it just doesnt start

 

By any chance someone tried putting Quadro M4000M on Alienware 17 R1

 

Put a M6100 in my M18X R1, not able to get PEG working properly or at all, with SG the GPU is recognized but I cannot get it to activate, any suggestions anyone? I have an unlocked BIOS so I can change any settings required if needed.

 

I (MSI GT70 4gen.....unlock bios) need SG. The PEG is not good. If I want to turn off the MXM card, disconnect it, deprive it .... venti spin ... no card in the machine option ..... then auto. If you have an mxm card then SG mode. He recognizes everything.

 

Thanks! I did not buy. So it writes absolutely well, only I don't succeed in the end. My card doesn’t lie horizontally, it sticks out of the machine, maybe that’s why.
I'm thinking of making an rtx 2080 super max-q vbios. Maybe I'll try. There, I think MSI AB gives me the opportunity to pull, adjust, tune, and then I can come out better.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/223923/223923

 

Hello guys! I'm planning to Upgrade GPU in my Clevo P750ZM from 970M (Non G-sync) to HP RTX 3000. I know all future problems:
1) Misplaced GPU chip and Heatsink bracket.
2) Misplaced board screw holes.

I understand all of these problems and I already have ideas how to mod board screws and heatsink.
But main problem, which i dont understand how to do - INF MOD.
It wont be an easy mod, because Clevo never made laptop with RTX 3000 / 4000 / 5000.
So there is no proper section in nvcvi.inf for RTX 3000 / 4000 / 5000.
Dell, HP, MSI - made laptops with RTX 3000 / 4000 / 5000.
So, my main questions:
1) Can Clevo inf be modded for RTX 3000 / 4000 / 5000 Support? If answer "Yes", then - How to?
2) Can I just copy section parameters from other laptop manufacturer (f.e. MSI) inf file to clevo inf and use it?

Thank you.

 

First problem is actually if your motherboard can read the temp sensor or not, otherwise typical behavior on Clevo machines is to shutdown in 30 seconds

 

UPD1. I've found thread on 51nb: https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1917894&highlight=rtx5000
In this thread user running RTX 5000 on P570WM, so INF MOD Possible.

About temp sensor - no problem at all, because you can emulate temp sensor by arduino board. Ref: https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=848398&st=6400#entry89570572

Anyway, does anyone know how to mod clevo inf file to support RTX 3000 / 4000 / 5000 gpu?

 

If you can do a write up on that process I am sure many will appreciate it

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
Use this and add your device ID to the driver installation file. It will then install the drivers without a problem.

 

An example......
(((I have it (MSI - / 12B0 / vbios version above)))

I have a vbios above that is included in the nvidia driver. (Photo) It is certain that you are installing a vbios that does not require a driver modification.

If I put up another vbio, this card will not give a picture after reboot. Black screen receives. That is, now I do not go to the driver modification with this card.

I'm looking for the 12C6 vbios version ..... it could be more than 80W.
It is kept in an MSI safe. :-(((

 

Might be a better idea to just shunt mod it than to mess around with VBIOS.

 

Don't know if it needs mentioning

But my p750fm (p750zm chassis with p750dm motherboard) works with the msi gtx 1080 @ 190w tdp

 

so i just sumbled upon the mxm 3.1 and was wondering, if its possible to put like 2x 3080 in eurocom sky x9c for example? it uses dual mxm 3.1 for up to 190w per module, i dont think it will support sli, but for cuda rendering and casual mining it should work?

 

MXM 3.1 is not a real standard to my best understanding but in principle there shouldnt be any reason why you couldnt. It'd be worth making a thread for at the very least as I would be interested in portable miner / multi purpose system like that at some point as well

 

im more like into 3d, rendering, etc, desktop replacement, and HEAVY gaming , but yeah, would be nice to get some dual 3080's or maybe even A5000s, (would love to see 3090 sli but that wont never happen i suppose)

 

Well considering the 3080m is a 3070 from what I understand but yeah that would be pretty cool to see, though I imagine expensive as all hell

 

Succeeded ..... new vbios.

 

Willing to share all those hard to find VBIOS in this forum, so others can use them if they do the same as you did?

 

Did you ask me your question? Maybe yes maybe not. I do not take responsibility. I'm just sharing what's going on with me. I'm not a professional on the subject. You risked a lot. My friends don't understand why I do it. I like this mxm world. I need this. And I still want to use my old laptop.

 

That goes without saying, but the reason to share information is so that other people have options as well otherwise it's just bragging online lol

 

Hello, guys!
I can confirm that Quadro M4000M working without any issues in Clevo P750ZM/P751ZM/P770ZM/P771ZM and P750DM/P751DM/P770DM/P771DM. (Have P750ZM and P771DM tested).

1) No hardware mod's needed. GPU is plug and play.

2) Quadro M4000M wont output image on internal screen unless you flash proper DELL 84.04.47.00.12 vBIOS. It will be in attachments below.
But Quadro M4000M even with non-proper vBIOS will output to external screen, so you'll be able to flash vBIOS.
To flash proper vBIOS I used nvflash modded by Prema. Here instructions to flash vBIOS on M4000M:
1. Unzip archive M4000M vBIOS.rar.
2. In folder find FLASH.bat and run it.
3. Accept flashing process by pressing "Y".
4. After flashing process completed, internal display should start working.

3) Now you need to INF Mod drivers.
My suggestion is to use "443.66-quadro-desktop-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql", since in newer drivers versions NVIDIA broke Brightness control in these laptops.

HOW TO INF MOD NVIDIA DRIVERS FOR M4000M:
1) Unzip downloaded "443.66-quadro-desktop-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe" file to handy folder for you.
2) Go to "Display.Driver" folder and find "nvcvwi.inf" file, open it.
3) Since Clevo never made a laptop with M4000M GPU, you willn't find preset with SectionID for M4000M in this file. But this isn't a problem. Clevo made laptops with M3000M and M5000M, and if you check sections of these 2 GPU's - Bingo! 2 Same SectionID = Section041.
So we Can use Preset from M3000M or M5000M.
Now, Go to "Device Manager" - "Display Adapters" - "Microsoft ..." - Right Click on it - "Properties" - Go to Tab "Details" - Select "Property" = "Hardware Ids". Copy one of these ID's. It should look like: "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13F9&SUBSYS_75001558"
4) Now find Quadro M5000M Settings strings (13F8.7500.1558) and, for me and P750ZM all what I need to change in M5000M Settings string is - 13F8 -> 13F9.
5) Do these changes across whole document and dont forget to change GPU dispay name in Device Manager (It will be in bottom of document).
6) Open CMD and enter: bcdedit /set testsigning on
7) You should receive the “The operation completed successfully” message.
8) Reboot.
9) Install INF Modded nVIDIA Quadro Series Graphics Driver from folder by clicking on setup.exe: Custom, Perform Clean Installation.
10) Agree with message about not signed driver installation.
11) Reboot.
12) Open CMD and enter: bcdedit /set testsigning off
13) You should receive the “The operation completed successfully” message.
14) Reboot.

Voila! Drivers successfully installed and GPU now fully working!
If you have additional questions, here is picture guide: https://null-src.com/posts/nvidia-notebook-driver-inf-mod/post.php
And, of course you can mod drivers by NVCleanstall.

Proof:

 

Naturally. It can be copied. If you have a laptop like me, you are 100% successful. Lenovo vbios ..... (msi laptop gt70 4.gen) .... driver modification .... 3x 4 character change (hardware key) in the driver. Now I have it. / 229B 1462 / Before it was msi vbios (..... rtx5000 card .... / 12B0 1462 / .... everything goes up, no driver modification required, compatible with vbios.

 

And I have modded vBIOS for Quadro M4000M with stable:
1) Core 1354Mhz
2) Memory 2000Mhz (Not overclocked yet, but will be in next versions of vBIOS)
3) TDP 120-130W (Mosfets used on PCB designed to operate 40A, so 120-130W is safe)
4) Core Voltage on 1354Mhz = 1.093V
4) Memory Voltage on 2000Mhz = 1.200V

With these settings I achieve 10000 points 3DMark Firestrike (Graphics) and 3011 3DMark TimeSpy (Graphics).
I have stable 60FPS in Witcher 3 (Mix Ultra-High settings without Hairworks), 90-120 FPS in DOOM 2016 (Ultra settings).
GPU running under MX-4 with 120-130W TDP and 75-80C.
Tests will be added SOON.

Now technical information.
You can't OC M4000M from Windows, MSI Afterburner or NVIDIA inspector cant change voltage, overclock Core over +135Mhz and even OC Memory Clock's in Windows, so I did around 27 Flashes to find suitable clocks for each voltage (For my GPU of Course) and to get 140W TDP lock (From stock 75W).

Here is my Voltage - Clock test table:
1.0 = 1230 / 1240 - Crash
1.05 = 1291 / 1316 - Crash
1.1 = 1390 / 1400 - Crash
1.15 = 1440 / 1450 - Crash
1.2 = 1501

Here is Clock - FPS in Witcher 3 table:
1103 - 54.5
1053 - 57
1103 - 59
1148 - 61
1215 - 63
1254 - 65
1304 - 67
1354 - 69
1404 - 70.5
1454 - 72

I decided to stick on 1354Mhz because to get +3FPS you need to raise Clocks up to 1454Mhz and voltage over 1.160V, which result 150-160W TDP.
I'm also managed to get 1501Mhz Core with 1.200V and 180W TDP, but these settings are unsafe.

Modded vBIOS:: M4000M vBIOS by Borsky v1.0 1354Mhz.2000Mhz.1.093V.zip
Proof and tests will be added ASAP =)

 

Now you should to tweak ur cpu, i saw that you had some low scores with that on FS

 

Unfortunately, there are cooling problems. This is the end of it.I'm happy with that.

 

I had it also, i solved using liquid metal, and setting the cpu unlocking the max power for unlimited time, with that i achived + 11.500k.
but more important less stuttering on last games
the most stable clocks for me are 4.1ghz x4
but i had some troubles with games because there was some kind of limiting and i couldn't to get over 67WATT even tho with benchmarks it was pushing over 100w
But messing around bios in part i solved it. and i have an gtx 1060, with your gpu bottlenecking it's behind the door

 

All right, the liquid metal will be.

 

you were without that? :O i remember with the normal one i was getting +90 this cpu it's a mess, just before that watch some tutorials on YT and be careful, use it in cpu only and cover the surface with something leaving free just cpu die. also with the heatsink surface and put it in both

 

It used to be liquid metal above. I went to a laptop mechanic. I'll take it again. The MX4 is little for him now. It would be good in winter, very few now. I'm thinking of an interior + fan inside the house above the cpu.
USB connector outside the back .........It needs to be worked out.

 

The Only thing that worked for me was thermal grizzly LM, without plus fans, Just put something in the back of the laptop to keep It a bit higher to take air

 

I have a Toshiba/Dynabook Qosmio X70-A-12N with a GTX 770M.
A good upgrade would be e.g. a GTX 970M or if possible a GTX 1060M

Are there any successful upgrades done with his Notebook?

Thx!

 

so ... i just upgraded my alienware 18 with a new gpu, specifically a quadro p5000 workstation graphics card i acquired in a dead (screen busted and battery missing but technically booted fine) hp zbook 17 g4. i'm having a weird issue tho. whenever i game the gpu power usage climbs to 100 watts then craters to 55 and drops the core frequency from 1658 (max turbo for this gpu) down to a measily 1058 - 1228. anyone have any idea why this weird behavior is happening? when i put it in my m6800 it didn't have these issues, its just on this alienware 18 haswell edition that its doing this.

 

Which power supply do you have hooked up to your laptop? Do you have a 240 watt power supply or 330 watt power supply hooked up to it?

I had a problem where the GTX 1060 in my Alienware 17 would limit its power draw to around 40 watts when I had my 180 watt PSU hooked up to it, which is the same as the GPU power limit in battery mode. I resolved this by getting a 240 watt PSU. You may be having a similar problem.

Even if the power supply can technically supply enough power, the system's firmware allocates a certain amount of power to each component. If the GPU's TDP exceeds that power allocation, then the power draw is limited to what it is in battery mode.

 

I'm using a 330watt PSU from an Alienware x51 r1. What makes it weird is the power draw goes up to 100 watts then plummets down to 50. Makes me think something hokey is going on with the embedded controller. I'm using the a12 unlocked firmware though so not much chance to upgrade that firmware as the system doesn't have edp so switchable graphics mode is required.

 

Try disabling power adapter warnings and/or the sleep trick

 

Hi guys. I have P750ZM with Prema Mod v2 (it is Eurocom P5 Pro with eDP internal display connection) and I bought Quadro P4200 without a soldered chip. After soldering the chip and flashing vbios from techpowerup, I installed it on my laptop. I can see the image, it works, but unfortunately, when I trying to modify inf file, the screen turns in black and that's all... With teamviewer I can connect to my laptop, and everything works well (138-140 fps in 720p and ~6900 gflops with AIDA64's GPGPU). What I tried:
1) I tried different driver versions
2) Three of three found vbioses (and modifying each driver for that)
3) Installed win7 instead of win10 (win7 just turns totally screen off, and win10 is just changing screen to black and screen backlight is turned on).

Any suggestions?

 

I am now using a Quadro RTX 5000 card, before that it was P5200.
I also had / have a black screen when using bad vbios. Try another vbios.

( MSI GT70 4.gen) P5200 driver modification for me ..... nvdmwi
% NVIDIA_DEV.1BB5.0832.1028% = Section160, PCI \ VEN_10DE & DEV_1BB5 & SUBSYS_ 00001462

(NVIDIA_DEV.1BB5. 0832.1028 = "NVIDIA Quadro P5200")
below is the 4200 ......
(NVIDIA_DEV.1BB9. 0832.1028 = "NVIDIA Quadro P4200")

Or a much better example and there will be a picture if you succeed.
Photo .... is a vbios that is included in the inf file. I found (MSI GT70) there are 2 pcs as well.

 

In this case, you do not need to change the driver, the driver will go up by itself !!! (nvmii)