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    Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sicily428, May 21, 2017.

  1. AlexUnder2010

    AlexUnder2010 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have " PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB9&SUBSYS_11FF1462" in Device Manager. So, in my case, I changed nvcvwi.inf like this:

    [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...17098]
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7500.1558% = Section009, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13B1&SUBSYS_75001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7502.1558% = Section009, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13B1&SUBSYS_75021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7700.1558% = Section009, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13B1&SUBSYS_77001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7702.1558% = Section009, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13B1&SUBSYS_77021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7500.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_75001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7502.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_75021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7700.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_77001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7702.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_77021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7500.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13FA&SUBSYS_75001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7502.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13FA&SUBSYS_75021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7700.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13FA&SUBSYS_77001558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7702.1558% = Section020, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13FA&SUBSYS_77021558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.1BB7.9501.1558% = Section044, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB7&SUBSYS_95011558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.1BB8.9501.1558% = Section044, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB8&SUBSYS_95011558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.1BB9.11FF.1462% = Section045, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB9&SUBSYS_11FF1462
    %NVIDIA_DEV.1BBB.95E1.1558% = Section045, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BBB&SUBSYS_95E11558

    and

    [Strings]
    DiskID1 = "NVIDIA Windows 10 (64 bit) Driver Library Installation Disk 1"
    FLG_ADDREG_KEYONLY = 0x00000010
    NVIDIA = "NVIDIA"
    NVIDIA_A = "NVIDIA"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7500.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M1000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7502.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M1000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7700.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M1000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13B1.7702.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M1000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7500.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M5000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7502.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M5000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7700.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M5000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13F8.7702.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M5000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7500.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M3000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7502.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M3000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7700.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M3000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.13FA.7702.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro M3000M"
    NVIDIA_DEV.1BB7.9501.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro P4000 with Max-Q Design"
    NVIDIA_DEV.1BB8.9501.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro P3000"
    NVIDIA_DEV.1BB9.11FF.1462 = "NVIDIA Quadro P4200 with Max-Q Design"
    NVIDIA_DEV.1BBB.95E1.1558 = "NVIDIA Quadro P3200"

    What I'm doing wrong?
     
  2. mr007rm

    mr007rm Notebook Consultant

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    I just gave an example. You don't need an nvmii.inf file because you don't have an MSI laptop. I need another inf. Another inf. I have an optimus and since MSI is therefore 1462 .... device manager.
    Igpu and dgpu must match. You have to look and solve in the same way. As I look at you (1558) ... look for an inf file with p4200. Vbios is also better if you are looking for the right one for your machine type ....Copy 2 hardware keys here. And if you can the vbios version from the vbios collection as well.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/

    There are several ways to succeed, but let’s look for the simplest. Poor English, I have a hard time telling.
    I'll try to do it for you.
     
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  3. AlexUnder2010

    AlexUnder2010 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I haven't Optimus (the only card working on my laptop - is discrete GPU 970m. So, I need to find in other *.inf files correct record and just modify it a little and then insert to my laptop's *.inf file? Is it correct flow?
     
  4. mr007rm

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    .......
     
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  5. Clamibot

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    Yes. You just need to modify the .inf file that pertains to your laptop brand, or you can use Nvcleanstall to automate the process for you. You'll only have to provide the device ID.
     
  6. Hautr

    Hautr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys, I successfully upgraded my Clevo P170SM from GTX 780m to 1060m. However when doing 3dmark firestrike bench, the score is depressingly low, especially graphics score when compared to other people with the same specs. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/26266935. I've seen people score 10-11k with similar specs.

    I tried to run unigine and 3dmark while monitoring clock speeds for GPU and CPU and both seems to run stable clocks with no throttle, yet my score is so bad (my gpu clock even ran at a higher speed than some other bench in 3dmark, yet my graphics score is worse). I have also seen people getting around 1600-1700 scores in unigine heaven on extreme preset, while I only get 1300. Anyone got any idea
    what could be the issue here?

    CPU: i7-4800mq
    GPU: 1060 6b
    PSU: 230W
    readings HWinfo during load

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. toastofman

    toastofman Notebook Guru

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    Hey folks, question for you all: Does an Alienware M17x R4 control the fans of an MSI GTX1060 automatically, or does one need to run HWinfo to fire the fan off? I have a w7170m (installed as M390x) in my M17x R4 currently and have to run HWinfo, which is clunky and is causing weird issues (constantly crashes Firefox, system hangs if HWinfo isn't terminated before shutdown, these kind of things). So, l guess, with anything but the 600-series GeForce mobile cards, can the BIOS control the fans, or with any of these GPU upgrades, will I always have to run HWinfo and pull up sensors for the fans?
     
  8. AlexUnder2010

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    One week trying and still nothing. I've tried all of three available vbioses (on techpowerup) and tried different driver versions - everywhere the same. In windows' safe mode videocard works like "basic video adapter" and after installing driver with modified inf everything goes black. I've tried nvcleaninstall - the same. In ubuntu there is no issues - videocard working well. I've tried two variant of BIOS for P750ZM - prema mod and stock - the same. What could I try else?
     
  9. mr007rm

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    You can try using another inf.file. Try all the variations.
    I have an MSI laptop and am currently using a Lenovo vbios. Coincidentally, it also works well ...... it's true he needs a little UV.

    Unfortunately, I don't understand this dark screen thing either. I have encountered it in many cases but found a solution for it .... another vbios and another driver .... maybe I was just lucky.

    (((For me, the dark screen comes after I restart the laptop. Maybe the wrong inf file is responsible, which is not good with that particular laptop. But I don’t know exactly because I haven’t tried enough and I don’t understand why.
    Right now, everything is working well for me.)))
     

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  10. Camron.Callantine

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    I just picked up a zbox en1060 and I just bought an aetina 1080. The person I bought it from explains that it'll run 120w without supplemental power, it'll just not reach higher boost bins. Can anyone confirm this? And the chance it does work, I understand the en1080 was watercooled and the 1060 cooler is too weak to handle it. My embedded system is watercooled and I do have a means of cooling it. But would I have to swap the bios chip for the en1080 to support it?
     
  11. ssj92

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    I would try it out and see if it works. No need to do any mods, just remove 1060, install 1080 and see if it works.
     
  12. Camron.Callantine

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    Certainly! It should be in on Saturday.
     
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    Hi guys. I managed to upgrade my p170sm with gtx 1060 the aetina card. However i noticed it running on pci express x1 3.0 instead of x16 3.0 in GPU-Z. I have started renders and benches, but it refuses to switch to x16. I am usibg Prema mod v2 as bios. Is this a normal behavior? I tried reseating the card but no luck :(
    I also looked through p170sm user manual to see if it supported x16, but my tech knowledge is too limited to decipher it. Any help are highly appreciated!
     
  14. Camron.Callantine

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    If you want to PM me I can help you after I get off work
     
  15. Camron.Callantine

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    Got the Aetina gtx 1080 to work without supplemental power and is drawing the whole 150w through the mxm slot on the en1060. Boosts up over 1900mhz and have not had any problems. I am running it watercooled since the 1080 looks to be 10mm longer than the 1060 and cannot use the stock cooler. I'm going to try it on my ZeroOne h310 next.
     
  16. ssj92

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    Great! @UltraGSM will be happy to hear this. I am sending him a Aetina 1080 for M18xR2.
     
  17. Dr.Wily

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    Hello,

    I upgraded my HP Elitebook 8740w with a MXM card GTX 1050 4gb. This card replace the old quadro FX 2500.
    Unfortunatly I have a strange issue. When I power up the laptop there is a black screen, no backlite, no image but the system run and boot fine (I hear windows booting). However, when I plug a screen on the laptop's display port I have an image on the external screen.

    Plus, there is no working NVIDIA driver to install. I need to force installing drivers through device manager. Neither Nvidia's laptop ou desktop driver work. After a forced driver installation the GTX 1050 works correctly but internal screen remain black.

    Is someone have expérienced this issue ?

    Thanks ;)

    MXM card is this one :
    [​IMG]
     
  18. ssj92

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    Does the laptop have a eDP display? @RMSMajestic @Reciever might know
     
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    It have only eDP and VGA. No HDMI.

    Display works only through eDP but not on laptop screen. Even with the driver.
     
  20. Vaardu

    Vaardu Notebook Evangelist

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    eDP is the embedded DisplayPort, where the eDP LCD connects into the motherboard. I think the 8740w is LVDS, even with DreamColor.
     
  21. toastofman

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    As @Vaardu said, it sounds like your HP is outputting to an LVDS signal panel, and the 1050 is most likely outputting an eDP signal. The 2 signals (eDP and LVDS) can't be converted between very easily, and sometimes it is just practically impossible. Something you can try is to (at your own risk, flashing vbios is always risky) find a verified vbios for a 1050 that makes it output to LVDS.

    First step would be finding the laptops that came with the 1050 MXM (not soldered 1050s, they don't have their own vbios), and checking them for LVDS panels. But most, if not all, the Pascal cards came as eDP output cards regardless of what they were offered in. I think Alienware used LVDS for quite a while, but can't be sure. But if you can find a laptop that came from the factory with a 1050 MXM outputting to LVDS, you can assk for a vbios dump from that laptop or check techpowerup's vbios database for a dumped vbios. Again, it can be risky to flash to do so carefully and at your own risk!
     
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  22. TheQuentincc

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    PASCAL CARD CAN'T OUTPUT LVDS
    How many time do we have to write it down ? It's an hardware "issue" (more or less upgrade tbh), they aren't made to support analog signal anymore.
    Since Pascal you can't use an "analog monitor" like VGA or LVDS unless you use an adapter (which does exist for VGA but doesn't for LVDS).
    The only way to get a Pascal card "using" the display is to use OPTIMUS, unless your laptop support Optimus, you can't use LVDS display with a Pascal card.
     
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    Looks like prices on RTX 3000 MXM cards are finally coming down to reality land, HP and ADLink cards are tempting for M17x R4 but I have not see anyone run these cards in PEG mode, only SG mode on M18x laptops, anyone familiar with anyone running these cards in PEG?
    It be interesting to see them run on 120Hz screen without Optimus if they are even capable of that.
     
  24. Camron.Callantine

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    I was looking over my metrics for the gtx 1080 and it hit 198 watts(in generation zero and cod cold war) and shut the en1060 down. I ended up buying a hp 230 watt power adapter and soldered the plug from the original 180w psu and I'm seeing anywhere from 180w to 200w on gpu power draw without supplemental power. I have moved to watercooling. What kind of power draw were you seeing on your 1080?
     
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    Wow that is VERY interesting that you can hit over 150w without the 4-pin power connected. Can you run 3dmark firestrike and timespy?

    @UltraGSM doesn't have the card yet. I will be shipping to him next week so probably 2-3 weeks before we even hear anything.
     
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    I can't seem to get it to run full tilt and when it does, it closes the benchmark.
     
  27. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    My msi 1080 I believe is running 180w but this is on a p750dm-g board housed in a p750zm chassis
     
  28. Camron.Callantine

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    I spoke with my dad about it and he said that I could be reading it wrong. I wasn't able to get firestrike or time spy to boost the clock speed back up past 1900mhz. But the short playthrough of Generation Zero and some heavy battles that had several animations at 1080p and ultra settings yielded this.
     

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    My next project is to get this ZeroOne h310 to run with the gtx 1080. Unfortunately I need a gpu that can be ran as a dgpu so I can get in and change the bios settings. I had a p4000 with a dell bios that worked perfectly but I sold it before I realized that I still needed it.
     

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    Hi guys, any idea if I can solder a vBIOS chip on an MXM P3200? I got an MXM P3200 for my P177SMA but it has no vBIOS chip.
     
  31. AlexUnder2010

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    Take a look here. I have also P4200 from HP and after soldering Winbond W25Q40EW chip, you can proceed with flashing vBIOS there. My P750ZM cannot support any of vBIOS'es, one month of trying to get it work ended with forgetting about it finalizing it with posting it on market..., maybe because of no optimus support who knows. On P750DM-G card works well.
     
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    Awesome. Thank you! Can you recommend a vBIOS file?

    Edit: This is the chip right? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124089954403?hash=item1ce4567063:g:OskAAOSwf2ZeTW8O
     
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    AlexUnder2010 Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's right.
     
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    Hi , im going to upgrade my m6700 with firepro m6000 to m3000m . Anyone has some clue , that it will work?
     
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    Thank you sir for the detailed tutorial about inf modding for this GPU specifically.
    Thanks to you, I've succeded in upgrading a Clevo P150SM(NON A) with an Nvidia Quadro M4000M.
    Will post evidence, details etc in a minute.
     
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    Clevo P150SM, upgraded with a Nvidia Quadro M4000M,
    All works fine, weird thing though for anyone looking to attempt the same, the BIOS says the VGA card is unknown, and without Clevo Hotkey installed prepare for terrible fan curves.
    Also if you're attempting this make sure you get a M4000M with a dell vbios, the hp one is apparently quite funky.
    Other posts on notebookreview that helped me:
    INF MODDING for this Card, gracefully provided by:
    Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops | Page 104 | NotebookReview
    Message by MrBorsky(I don't have much extra to say to that message aside from the fact that you need to change a bit more than MrBorsky did(In my case it was changing the 7005 to 5106)
    And this awfully useful youtube video to help speed up and clear up questions:
    Nvidia .inf driver mod tutorial - read below. - YouTube
    Sidenote; My Temps after the upgrade:
    [GPU]@70c 4hr run on unigine heaven with performance mode
    [CPU]@93c 4hr run on unigine heaven with performance mode connected to the wall (It's probably not making proper contact, but oh well)
    NOTE: PremaModBios is installed
    NOTE2: I didn't post the vbios for my specific card, because MrBorsky posted one that worked for me equally. But if someone asks I'll gladly post mine once I get back to my rig.

    Good luck and thank you everyone!
     

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    Sucsessfully do a 970m upgrade on the M6700 laptop
     
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    Msi GT683DXR from 570M GTX @ Quadro M4000M
     
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    I have a Clevo P151EM with a 675mx and want to upgrade to a 980m.

    Is it possible, I guess that I need a new bios to get the 980m runing?
     
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    No modded bios required. You just need to do a driver .inf mod to get the driver to install.

    You can also use a 1060. Similar performance to the 980m while using less power.
     
  44. MrBorsky

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    Since you have an Optimus laptop, you can buy Tesla M6 for less price than 980M. These are completely identical cards, no performance drop from 980M to Tesla M6.
    Also, you can buy one of these cards:
    1) GTX 1060 (Best one is from MSI)
    2) GTX 1070 (Best one is prom MSI)
    3) Quadro P4000 (GTX 1060 performance, no overclock)
    4) Quadro M4000M (GTX 970M Performance, OC 1354Mhz = 10000 pts in 3DMark FireStrike)

    Other cards, like P5000, P5200 - are worthless to by, cause their price increases three times from P4000, but no performace increase three times =)
     
  45. Kai S

    Kai S Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks MrBorsky! But what is with driver support by Telsa M6? Nvidas driver support is very good.
     
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    No problem with drivers for Tesla M6. You can you section from M5000M or 980M, these sections are optimized for gaming and works very good. So, you can just download Driver for M5000M/980M and inf mod it.
     
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    Would a Tesla M6 wotk with my standard Bios or need I a mod version?
    Thanks
     
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    Standard will work great.
    BTW, I have Prema BIOS for P15xEM, so there is no problem.
     
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    Hello, dear group. I bought an hp zbook 17 g3 i5, 32gb ram and m3000m graphics card. I have the opportunity to buy a p3000 from a 17 g4. Will this card work without any modifications to my laptop?
     
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    If price for P3000 is higher than 100$ - avoid it.
    It gives less performance, than M4000M OC'ed to 1360Mhz/120W. M4000M cost's 90-100$ Aliexpress.
    Or find P4000 for 200$, which will give performance around stock GTX 1060.

    What about compatability and work without any modifications: I dont know.
    INF mod isn't smtg hard to do, so you always can make it work, even if GPU isn't plug-and-play.
     
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