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    Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sicily428, May 21, 2017.

  1. RMSMajestic

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    Just saying, maybe it's worthwhile to add detailed specs/OS and imperfections etc. etc. Cos ppl might wanna choose lesser of the devils (e.g. Intel's **** iGPU vs M$ windows 10)
    Windows 10 is known to open a window to your privacy and also re-enable driver signature check/secure/ fastboot to rape you every single ****ing update which you have no way to stop.

    For example, Quadro P5000m only works on M6700 with no brightness control. And GTX 1060/GTX 1070 won't work on HP 8770w under windows 7 due to lack of legacy ROM.....
     
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  2. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Is there a UEFI function, because maybe you can run the 1060N in dedicated mode. You wouldn't be able to run the EURO 1070 though.
     
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    RMSMajestic Notebook Consultant

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    Made a mistake..... 8770w works with GTX 1070 and 1060 under pure UEFI mode, but that means you have to choose btw windows 10 with newer graphics, or windows 7 with older graphics if you have dreamcolor
     
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    dreamcolor is lvds?
     
  5. RMSMajestic

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    It's LVDS converted from eDP. When you have Dream Color installed the iGPU is disabled by default. And since iGPU is disabled there is no way to enable oprtimus and hence no legacy ROM support for the pascal cards, one would have to go with windows 10
     
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    so there's an internal port that does mxm edp -> lvds output to dreamcolor panel?


    but if you don't have dreamcolor, it's possible to use native edp and therefore use 10xx series as dgpu exclusively without optimus?
     
  7. RMSMajestic

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    The color mapping board does eDP => LVDS conversion as well as hardware LUT.

    Without dreamcolor panel it's not possible to do dGPU alone either cos all 1080p screens at that era are LVDS.
    Also, without dreamcolor there's no point for getting HP workstations.
     
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    Ah, that's interesting to know.

    So optimus is the only option for 10xx cards regardless in the HP.



    At least it's better than the retarded ThinkPad W-series with soldered GPU.
     
  9. RMSMajestic

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    Yeah if you want windows 7 instead of winbug 10, Optimus is the only way to go. Kind of speechless that I dissed iGPU that much and now it's the savior for a lot of old laptops.

    Soldered GPU isn't too bad IMO. You can find someone to replace the GPU for ~$30, And the GF107, GK107, GM107 share the same stencil.
    The worst thing about thinkpad is the BIOS. kind of whitelisted and locked to hell. Still using the FX2800m on my W701 and it really sucks harder than USPS.
    The most retarded part is that even on W701, W700, P70 and P71 the BIOS is locked.

    But still, HP's driver is a PITA, not to mention the cooling. Dell is kinda better but still you have to think about trackpoint. It's just choosing the lesser of the evils......
     
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    so your saying you can upgrade soldered on GPUs already?
     
  11. RMSMajestic

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    Theoretically it's possible. since all nVIDIA GPUs after maxwell have embedded hardware ID. If there is no hardware whitelist or such we can change vBIOS and repack it and then BGA the GPU chip.

    Leokim has done the FX570m to 8600m gt upgrade
     
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    LordRelentless Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone tried upgrading the MSI GT80 Titan SLI?
     
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    Hi all.
    I have an old Asus G51JX with a GTS 360M, bought on March 2010, and I want to try to upgrade its gpu.

    As far as I know, the MXM slot is a 2.1 version and the TDP is 35-38watt.
    I couldn’t find anyone that have upgrade it, but still I want to try.

    First is: which GPU family can I consider? The MXM is an old 2.1.
    Which GPU model? I cannot go over 35watt of power (also due to the heat generated)
     
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    The max you can pull, potentially is GT/GTX 500 series. You can't exceed the wattage availability and the GTX500 series was the last to be on MXM 2.1 before 3.0 came out. You'll also need to find an edited version for your bios to recognize the new card you install.
     
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    I think I remember something about Asus cards back then being 'backwards' and unusable in anything except Asus.

    But yeah anything that draws more will have a temp issue, I had a G51J and that thing was a genuine fireball, 95+C temps out of the box. That's what you get when there is no fan intake cutout in the bottom case......
     
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    P770DM-G Succes with European GTX 1070 8GB supplied by WOODZSTOCK thx man

    I will upload the full details as soon as I have fully stress tested with gaming etc.

    FYI the card in question is the EURO 1070 1BA1.7702.1558

    The main advantage to this card over every other is that it is square, meaning it does not have the nobble shape sticking out that is in the way of the capacitor (see other successful upgrade for this model) so actually only the heatsink needs modification, I have done this myself and very rudamentally with long nose pliers reshaped the heatsink.

    The other things we needed to do was to modify the latest drivers obviously and then install was a tad difficult as the driver install failed a few times, i narrowed this down to a few things so we turned of DSE and also changed the settings for group policy to allow the device to install (might have been my set up) which is located at gpedit.msc

    Full thread for this with pictures to follow
     
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    otto_kahn Notebook Consultant

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    it has been a very useful topic.
    Thank you.
     
  18. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Thanks for these usefull infos. :)
    Please share the link for the dedicated thread
     
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    ok so I did not want to upload anything until completely tested, the first tests on heaven bench were very encouraging and the score for superposition was 11000+ which is also a very good score.

    After testing Battlefield 1 I found regular freezes which ultimately caused white screen of death and would have to cold restart to get the laptop back on, all temps checked and never above 77 degrees so seemed very odd, got back in touch with WOODZSTOCK and he says there are known issues with battlefield and non standard GPUs

    So I decide to test with fortnite and the same thing happened. so off again

    ultimately the very next power on of my system caused a bang and flash which frightened me to death, not the surprise more the fear of what damage has been caused, thankfully the burn out is on the GPU so I am speaking to WOODZSTOCK for a return as it must have been faulty to blow, thankfully it did not take any other parts with it, no damage to main mobo so at least I can keep using my laptop for now

    I will keep you informed
     
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  20. Falkentyne

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    Wait.
    Why were you given a EUROCOM (not european) Eurofry GTX 1070?
    Those cards are Gecube rebadged 1070s which are well known to blow their VRM's.

    a MSI card couldn't fit in your system? Even a Clevo card (MSI makes the clevo cards FYI).
     
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    Hello guys, I know this does not have much to do with this post, but it is one of the only ones where I can answer.
    Is there some way to put a Quadro 3000m of an Hp 8760w in a Clevo P150em?
    Sorry for bothering.
     
  22. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    No. Clevo chassis need a specific thermal probe reading that would be missing from a HP card. Laptop would beep and shut itself down regardless of whether the card 'worked'
     
  23. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    M6800 (LVDS) with P5000. Screen capture added below.


    I can also confirm the P5000 works with the LVDS version of the M6800 but needs Optimus on. If the P5000 comes with a vBIOS that puts the system into boot loops or throws ACPI_BIOS_ERROR on trying a new Win7/8/10 installation, a vBIOS flash is required.

    Fear not, this vBIOS flash can be done on the M6800 using Linux without having to remove the card or use another laptop/system! I just did it over the weekend and successfully flashed to a later vBIOS that works with the M6800.

    Check out the full details and more pictures in the link below:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/graphics-card-upgrade-for-m6800.806352/page-17#post-10748094
     
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    thanks for these infos :)
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/firepro-m6100-into-aw-17.820248/
    Suprisingly easy and simple, though Its a pretty useless upgrade because most people with them can simply buy a 780m, have one, or have/can get a 980m/1060. I did it personally because my 765m is dieing on me, and I can sell it for more than what I paid for the Firepro. As well, this is my first upgrade and wow, let me tell you, it was fun.
     
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    those are MXM GPUs
     
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    My bad, could have sworn they were
     
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    Hello,

    Did anyone try to upgrade a XMG U705 (German Clevo P770ZM) with a Clevo 970m MXM3.0b to a MSI 1060 MXM3.0 ?
     
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    Has anyone tried 1070 SLI in P370SM3 with stock heatsink? I saw @bennyg did it with his P370EM3
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    you are welcome!
     
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    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has anyone tried the M390x in upgrading anything? It honestly seems to be a viable solution, featuring a full HD 7970 core config, and goes for around $225 on ebay. And, it support dual graphics, according to AMD. I'm going to check it out
     
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    Why? It's an underclocked Tonga chip (R9 380X). 970M is faster and uses far less power.
     
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    970m is realistically that much faster, around 10%, and its usually far cheaper than one. TBH I might check it out
     
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    I upgraded my Clevo P157SM-A graphics card to a MSI 1070 finally got tired of the 880m GTX.
    Here are the 3DMark 11 after and before pics I ran the 1070 with +200 core clock in MSI afterburner (The 115W power limit is my bottleneck).
    The card I got was MXM 3.1 hardware rev 1.2 with SLI connector missing/removed from eBay.
    I had to remove some of the bottom case like in this example picture.
    The heatsink required a little work but if you test fit it'll be pretty easy to figure out. I used liquid metal since I was concerned about heat but so far the temps are better than the 880m GTX which also used liquid metal. When I was doing 3DMark 11 benchmarks I didn't exceed 70C.

    Operating system is Windows 10 64bit with UEFI enabled, bios is Prema Bios 1.03.11PM v2.
    When installing Nvidia driver 398.36 I had to modify this line %NVIDIA_DEV.1BE1.65A3.1558% = Section086, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BE1&SUBSYS_65A31558 to this %NVIDIA_DEV.1BE1.5281.1558% = Section086, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BE1&SUBSYS_52811558 along with adding NVIDIA_DEV.1BE1.5281.1558 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070" to the [Strings] section of the nvcvi.inf file. I think the line I edited was for the Clevo P650HS.
    GPU-Z picture.

    Thanks to the information I've found/read on this forum and other places I was able to do this with minimal difficulty.
     
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  41. sicily428

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    Please, create a dedicated thread/guide about your upgrade and post here a link. Thanks
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Hi @woodzstack ! Do you have modded HS for that clevo?
     
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  45. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    We mod the heatsinks ourselves if possible, and sometimes I can get them directly modified from others as well, if you need, for the most part if you have the simple tools needed you can always do it yourself too.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Hi Woodzstack! I was talking about the laptop of this user
    He owns this configuration:
    Schenker XMG U705 ( Clevo P770ZM) : i7-4790S - 970M 6GB - 2x8GB DDR3-1600MHz
    LG display 75Hz LP173WF4-SPD1 eDP 30 pin

    is that heatsink compatible with a MSI Gtx1060?
     
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    Last edited: Jul 16, 2018
  48. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Well I think this system has this giant heatsink covering both CPU and GPU right ? I think it can be done though, modified, maybe some area's removed, some added. I haven't done one yet though.
    Someone wants to send me one I will try.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Never knew that!
     
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