The ThrottleStop Guide

On my sis's lap, powercut doesn't work most of the time, so I disabled it because if something goes wrong when I am not at home. Better safe than sorry.
On battery you can go upto 70-80mV without Turbo.

 

@unclewebb

hi guys, i have i7 4700mq, can somebody tell me the best settings to undervolt this cpu? i wanna undervolt to the max, to see if i can get away from the 90º on full load, cus at 92 it starts thermal throttling, is there any way to raise the thermal throttle limit? to like 95 or something i know intel mobile cpus can reach 100º safely. so if anyone could help me it will be nice

 

@unclewebb

Could you give some ThrottleStop guidance for the recent Dell XPS laptops (say 6300HQ & 7700HQ).

For "Intel Power Balance" option in the TPL screen, how would one shift resources principally to "Intel CPU" and reduce resources to "Intel GPU"?

On my 6300HQ, in TPL screen, I checked "Intel Power Balance [0...31]", then set "Intel CPU" 31 & "Intel GPU" 13. Those settings were based on comments above by @Vasudev 's sister

Will that boost CPU performance for Skylake & Kaby Lake processors?

 

Yeah Intel Power Balance works on those CPUs too, I have 6700HQ and couple of days ago tweaked my cousin's laptop with 7700HQ with same settings. I prefer to keep similar settings on all CPUs that works 99% all the time.

 

Hey guys, I'm very new to the throttling scene.

I recently purchased a HP Pavilion - 15-cc521tx
GTX 940mx
7th Gen i5-7200U
8gb DDR4

It's a meh laptop, I got it for video rendering for my Year 12 VCE Subject, Media Studies (Australia ****). I tried running games such as the witcher 3 at ultra textures med everything else, it ran ok @720p, at around 30fps. This is good enough for me but around 30 seconds in my framerate dropped to around 3fps. I looked this up and intially thought my laptop was suffering from thermal throttling. After I heard this I went onto HP's website and got the specific drivers for my model laptop. But even with BIOS and thermal framework driver updates I still suffered this. I was thinking of getting a laptop cooling pad but Throttlestop is telling me that the limit reasons aren't thermal but: 'BD PROCHOT' 'EPD OTHER' and 'PL 1'. as far as I know this is something to do with the amount of electricity being pumped into the cpu and gpu. Could anyone clarify what these limit reasons are and how I can get around this. My rendering work is also suffering from this throttling, so any help would be much appreciated.

Sorry about the unprofessional information, I'm very new to this area of computer science

 

Put up HWINFO sensors screenshot when doing a rendering.
Try unchecking BDPROCHOT and see if it fixes the early firmware based throttling.

 

Hi all!
Thanks to Author for the Programm.
I currently own a Lenovo Y700-15isk which is Thermal Throttling at 67°C GPU Temperature.
So i have looked into the Problem, removed the Dust Filter from the button which brought the Temp down around 5-8°, elevated the Notebook for proper Airflow and repasted wich Activ Silver 5 Thermal Paste.
As i want to get Maximum Performance for Games i also overlocked the GPU and mem (+135, +610).
Then i tried Throttlestop to bring the Temps even more down but im not too sure about the correct Settings and everything.
Also does this even make sense what im doing?
Overclocking the GPU (external) and undervolting (internal, CPU, Cache) at the same time?
Any hints how to correctly set this up would be appreciated.
I think disable Turbo Boost did bring the temps downn but is this really worth the Performance loss? my CPU is a i5- 6300HQ
Im playing CPU and GPU heavy games like ESO, BF1 etc. running the latest Windows 10 Build with Game Mode activated in Games.
Does Game mode conflict with Throttlestop in any way?=

thanks
wolf

 

Use this link to get a good paste from those list, choose whichever paste that fits your budget. AS 5 not so good on laptop TBH.

 

Unchecking BDPROCHOT fixed FPS issues but the throttling soon kicked back in
https://imgur.com/a/sEwnO
my temps aren't even reaching 70C, what's going on?

 

Do you mean stuttering or throttling? What's your undervolt settings? Download latest drivers from Intel and nvidia, use control panel to uninstall them and run DDU in safe to clear intel and nvidia driver by Choosing Clean and don not restart.

 

@LAPTOPBIOS - Intel designed the low power U series to throttle and slow down based mostly on power consumption. Your temps may be fine but most of these CPUs will throttle when they reach the 15 Watt TDP limit. Some manufacturers go overboard and will then kick the CPU into TDP-down mode where the available power limit will be instantly reduced to about half of the TDP limit. Unless you fully understand these limitations, my advice is to avoid the U series, especially for gaming and any sort of rendering. Intel designed this line of CPUs so they run very fast for short periods of time. Then they throttle. They were not designed to run fully loaded at full speed for any significant length of time.

Your Open Hardware Monitor screenshot tells me a lot of information but it does not show why your CPU is throttling. ThrottleStop will show power consumption and Limit Reasons will show PL1 in red if the power limit is the reason for throttling. EDP Other stands for Electrical Design Point which usually means the CPU has reached its current limit. These limits can be set by the manufacturer however they like. They do not guarantee any sort of level of performance.

Some manufacturers like Lenovo have sold 7th Gen U CPUs with many of these throttling limits left unlocked so they can easily be increased by enthusiasts. My wife loves her 7500U because instead of 7 Watts or 15 Watts, it can happily run full speed at 28 Watts without any hint of throttling. The cooling system is also acceptable.



Unfortunately, HP has probably locked your laptop up so tight that it squeaks. The best advice is to dump it on EBay and find a laptop that is more fit for your needs.

 

Dell and Lenovo are OEMS where a user can bypass limits using TS and XTU.

 

I have an XPS-9560 with i7-7700HQ and GTX 1050, and was wondering how to configure the throttle settings in Dell Command Power Manager and Windows Power Plans to be most compatible with Throttlestop. I want the laptop to use as little power as possible when doing small tasks, but also be able to run fast and stable without thermal or power throttling while gaming and doing music production.

Things I have already done:
- Dell Power Manager Plan - Optimized
- Windows Power Plan - Balanced - Active Fan throttling - 0-100% CPU speed
- undervolt CPU -140mV
- overclock GPU +200MHz
- Speedshift - EPP 128, min 1, max 28
- Disable Turbo
- repaste and implement iUnlock air reflow mod
- sustained gaming yields 77C max temps for CPU/GPU/VRM

Is there anything I should add or change to balance power efficiency and stable gaming performance?

Perhaps it would be better to utilize two or more different power profiles to maximize the efficiency of light tasks, gaming, and music production?

 

Not all Dell laptops or all Lenovo laptops have throttling limits that can be bypassed. This is especially true when they come with an Intel low power U series CPU. Laptops are a real crap shoot these days. You have to do lots of research before buying, be prepared to run a wide variety of tests as soon as you get it and also be prepared to send it back immediately if it cannot run at its full rated speed. Most consumers do not do enough testing or homework and then they are stuck with a lemon that they cannot return.

@djkanoko - It doesn't make any sense to me why someone would buy a performance laptop and then have to turn off Intel Turbo Boost because the manufacturer did not include an adequate cooling solution for the CPU/GPU/VRM. Make sure that both the CPU Core and CPU Cache are under volted. Not sure how the Windows Balanced power plan and the Dell Power Manager Plan and Speed Shift all interact. In most situations, your ThrottleStop Speed Shift settings should give you full control of your CPU MHz. If you want some more performance when doing music production, try turning Turbo Boost back on. You know best whether this is going to be possible or if your laptop is going to have a nuclear melt down and throttle itself into oblivion while trying to run at its rated speed.

 

The 9560 runs like a furnace. If your VRM sensor (that should be the ambient1 sensor in HWiNFO64) is above about 76*C your system will throttle (might be flagged as PL1). Also if you are gaming you will likely throttle from power draw from the undersized VRM and there is not much you can do.
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I ran Dell 9550 & 9560 for live virtual instruments with goal of ultra-low latency. If your goal is running a huge number of tracks in a DAW your requirements will differ from mine. Regardless, I think music and gaming requirements are much different. You can search my posts for more info.

==> A few (but not all) AUDIO ideas off the top of my head for ultra-low latency XPS laptops for music that seem to help my system but might not help yours:

- Get very recent Windows 10, BIOS and Dell/Intel/nVidia...drivers. There may be bugs in the latest so I always am a few weeks behind but not much more unless there is a good reason (e.g. bad user reports). The lousy earlier software has been improved significantly. This helps performance and temps.

- GPU nVidia - run nVidia stock (clocks and voltage) and you might want to kill some of the extra nVidia software

- GPU Intel - some reports that undervolting this can cause latency issues. See post above by @Vasudev

- Run LatencyMon to find latency problems

- Dell Command-Power Manager 2.2.1 at "Ultra Performance"

- Windows Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options at "high performance" (with a few optimizations)

- Turn off networking in Windows

- Turn off antivirus when playing (do that in Windows Pro via gpedit or it does not really turn off)

- There are a few low latency Windows tweaking guides on the internet that you can look at from the pro music companies

- On ThrottleStop:

* -140mv is too aggressive for Kaby Lake 7700HQ. We have a lot of data posted in the XPS forum. Users get black screens and some odd behaviours. -120mv is about as aggressive as any of the experienced guys have been able to use but that is different for each chip and usage.

* c-state screen - see UncleWebbs comments about importance of getting high c-states (e.g. c7 at 98%+) on idle. That means background processes are under control

* SpeedShift EPP=0

* Uncheck BDPROCHOT

* Try C1E checkbox

* Don't undervolt the iGPU. I think you can undervolt everything else in the FIVR screen adaptive althought the
CPU core and cache might need to be the same undervolt.

* TPL screen I bumped up the PPL but don't do that now. See Intel Power Balance adjustments above by @Vasudev

* I keep turbo speeds enabled in ThrottleStop. In the BIOS you should keep c-states, turbo enabled. This makes a big difference in performance

Shockingly, I did not find that the Samsung 961 nvme drive outperformed my 850 EVO ever (except some artifical SSD benchmarks). That may just be the limits of a laptop, or the XPS, or my usage

 

Can someone simplify C States for me, and how can I use it for my current laptop? I've only change the CPU core/cache, PPL/PPPL, and multiplier with my unit.

 

@djkanoko I've got your laptop's sibling (the Precision 5520). I'm still learning about throttling, overclocking, undervolting, etc, but with my limited knowledge, here's what I've done:
- I don't think it makes sense to have the Dell Power Manager, Windows Balanced Power plan and Throttlestop all enabled. They would all be fighting to manage the same settings. I've uninstalled all Dell management tooling myself, since they seemed to be conflicting with TS. As for the Windows Power plan, I use the balanced one too, but with some tweaks. For instance, Minimum and Maximum processor state need to be 100% for TS to be able to function properly.
- Overclocking the GPU seems like it would generate a considerate amount of extra heat, but if you say you've got no thermal issues, then why not. I know my GPU runs very hot at times, but I've got a different one than you do (the Quatro M1200).
- I've created separate profiles for normal work and gaming. My normal profile has an undervolt of -125mV (can probably go lower, but haven't really tried to find the limit yet), a Speed Step of 32 and Turbo enabled. That way the CPU can quickly ramp up when it needs to, but is nice and quiet (and cool) when it has little or no load.
My gaming profile however has Turbo disabled and a Speed Step of 128. I found I didn't really need the full CPU potential for gaming, and these settings keep the CPU from getting too hot. I'm not running with an undervolt on my gaming profile atm, cause I was having some stability issues with it. I still want to test how big of an undervolt I can use while gaming, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Anyway it seems to me (like @unclewebb says) that you're wasting your laptop's potential by running without Turbo and such a conservative Speed Step. I'd setup separate profiles if I were you, and make sure the various power management apps aren't conflicting (so maybe uninstall/disable the Dell one).

 

Yes that I agree, but researching a laptop is too difficult unless OEM use the same components for all regions instead of varying it region-wise. ULV chips are hit or miss sometimes they throttle and sometimes they don't.
OEM utilities sometimes worsens the situation limiting CPU and GPU performance.
Best site to check for PC reviews are NBC and NBR forums.

 

Thanks @unclewebb I choose to disable Turbo because the CPU was exceeding the temp of the GPU by about 5-10C while gaming, and I wanted to equalize that temperature difference. The CPU and Cache are both undervolted by 140mV. I agree all of this thermal undertuning seems counterintuitive, but it is the situation that many XPS 9550 and 9560 users find themselves in.

For power plans, I suspect if I choose Dell and Windows power plans to prefer maximum performance, and use my balanced SpeedShift settings in Throttlestop, then Throttlestop should still be able to throttle down to idle states properly without Dell and Windows trying to apply additional throttling?

To balance the temperature differences between CPU and CPU+GPU focused tasks, perhaps I could just use temperature threshold profiles in Throttlestop and automatically disable turbo if the CPU hits 80C?

 

Thanks @pressing and @Beempje ! I'll double check if thermal flags are being thrown when I hit 76C. I think I may make some changes to my airflow mod, since iUnlock was able to keep his temps below 70C.

So it seems I should disable any throttling mechanisms used by Dell or Windows and let Throttlestop handle everything.

I'll try using more aggressive CPU tunings, and set up a temperature profile to turn turbo off if it reaches 80C.

@pressing for music production, I often run up to 16 real instruments and 10 virtual instruments simultaneously so my primary concern there is just stable playback and recording. Latency isn't that big of deal for me because the effect chains I use always introduce a noticeable amount of latency anyways. But I will look into those options for improvements.

 

Anyone know why Throttlestop appears in my taskbar blinking? I always see the TS icon minimized to the system tray, but it's popped up twice in the taskbar blinking?

 

Hi everyone,

I started using TS to undervolt and enjoyed the reduced heat and better power consumption.

My ThinkPad Yoga 370 runs into TDP throttle very easily once I load a game like War Thunder. (Also happens on review units like https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Yoga-370-7200U-FHD-Convertible-Review.211902.0.html)

Can anyone advise if these settings are alright? I followed the Notebookcheck TS guide (core and cache same undervolt value, GPU undervolt). Do note I am on i3-7100U so there's no turbo boost available. The funny thing is my fan isn't that loud and temps aren't that high but throttling already started (same limit reasons for CPU and GPU) :/

My laptop has no High Performance Power Plan (thanks Lenovo) but I've disabled any power saving settings in Lenovo's software and set min/max CPU to 100% in the advanced settings when editing the power plan.


https://imgur.com/zViSJxn
https://imgur.com/f7Qokwx
https://imgur.com/urGEkdr

Screenshots also compiled at https://imgur.com/a/9gAQh

 

Don't undervolt your iGPU. Turn off BD PROCHOT and enable SpeedShift tech.

 

@gemmoglock - This looks like another case of the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework (DPTF) driver being used by a manufacturer to limit their laptops. This allows a manufacturer to lower the power limits on the fly. Your screenshot shows PL1 lit up in red and ThrottleStop is reporting exactly 10.0 Watts so I am pretty sure that your CPU which comes with an Intel specified 15 Watt TDP rating has been knee capped down to 10 Watts. One user uninstalled that driver and performance immediately increased. The problem is that after rebooting, Windows will automatically re-install it again and again. Try going into the Control Panel - Device Manager to see if you can find this driver and try disabling it that way without uninstalling it. Just right click the mouse and select Disable.

I see you have enabled Speed Shift already. When testing for maximum performance, use an EPP value of 0. The traditional min/max setting is often times ignored when Speed Shift is enabled. I do not think that BD PROCHOT is the cause of your throttling but I agree that it is best left turned off.

Are you using TS 8.48? Do you have any alarms set or are you doing anything else unusual with it like using a script to kill ThrottleStop? ThrottleStop happily sits in my system tray without any issues like you are having.

 

@gemmoglock

Maybe updating the BIOS will fix it. There are couple of updates released this month including BIOS, TPM drivers, IRST and GPU drivers. You could use a laptop stand to elevate the rear of the laptop for better airflow (recommended to use Laptop Mode with active cooling instead of passive)
@unclewebb There is no interface for DPTF driver in this model and no DPTF driver too. Possibly controlled at BIOS level with no interface provided to end users.

 

Thanks @Vasudev, turned off BD PROCHOT and reduced iGPU undervolt to a small -10v. I've Speedshift tech already on I think! Are there any settings in TPL Turbo Power Limits I should change like Package Power Limits, PP0 Turbo Time Limit, TDP Level Control, Intel Power Balance?

Thanks for the information! I don't have an exact match in device manager though, is it Thermal Subsystem? https://imgur.com/L4Ctkub

Wow you follow Lenovo driver updates (like me too)! My TPM is unaffected, BIOS has been updated. I am using GPU drivers direct from Intel as Lenovo drivers always take a long time to get updated. Only installed IRST from Lenovo as Intel doesn't auto-detect on their website. In fact I just tried and can't install the stock Intel one as there is no IRST device in Device Manager. Speaking of BIOS I have enabled the 512MB storage option for Graphics Memory in BIOS.

 

Yeah got many Lenovo's in home and with my relatives. Update IRST driver if the ROM is updated in BIOS otherwise its simply asking for trouble like slower disk speed and similar stuffs like that.
Try setting that available GPU memory to default value of 128/256MB. iGPU can allocate upto 2-4GB VRAM using available RAM.
Try zero undervolt on iGPU and I'm sure the difference will be unnoticed.

 

@unclewebb Thanks again for your help earlier! I was easily able to configure Throttlestop to apply different profiles based on battery state and CPU/GPU temperature. I did notice two minor bugs with these options though. When a profile is automatically switched (with the main Throttlestop window open), all the parameters update correctly, but the profile name listed at the top is still the old profile even though the profile radio button updates to the correct position. Also this causes the Save button to activate as though settings have been changed and need reapplied, but the settings have already been applied so pressing the save does nothing (instead it should just stay greyed out / disabled).

EDIT: It appears the Save button issue occurs when switching a profile manually as well. Clicking a different radio button applies the updated settings automatically, but still highlights the Save button, indicating that the updated settings have not been applied yet.

EDIT 2: Actually it seems most settings update immediately after they've been changed. For some settings like EPP you just need to change focus to another setting (clicking on any other settings does this). So perhaps I'm just misunderstanding the purpose of the Save button.

EDIT 3: OK, so your Primer clearly explains the Save button just saves all of the current settings to the INI file. And since the currently active profile is stored there, that would explain why profile changes highlight the Save button again. So my only concern at this point is the profile title not updating after an automatic profile change. Sorry for that.

 

I am facing a strange issue on a fresh windows 10 install.

I installed throttlestop and scheduled a task at startup. While TS does start and cpu voltage is lower than normal, there's no notification icon if I start it through the scheduler ( whether automatic or manually ). There is an icon in the notification bar if I start TS by doubleclicking the exe file. I didn't face this issue in the previous Win 10 install till 2 days back. I have created the TS task multiple times and just can't get it to launch normally with the icon visible.

Similar problem as described in the below thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...running-on-startup-in-windows-8.699442/page-2

Thanks in advance

 

I remember this bug and I am pretty sure it has been fixed but I cannot remember when. This works correctly in the version of ThrottleStop that I am currently using so this should be all fixed up for the next release. I agree that parts of TS are a little confusing when first starting out with the program. TS has a wide variety of users from noobies who have just taken their first step into the laptop throttling quagmire, to the ultra elite overclockers. Trying to write a single program that covers every Intel CPU made in the last decade and is logical and easy to use for every user is impossible so I have just been winging it. Like you discovered, most users get enough of it figured out so it is useful to them.

TS is nearing its 7th Anniversary on NBR. If you would have told me back then that my afternoon project was going to turn into a 7 year adventure, I probably would have turned and run in the opposite direction.

Hopefully after you play around with TS some more you will get a better feel for what does what. Every design decision made some sort of logical sense at the time but when you randomly tack on features over that length of time, there are bound to be a few rough spots and things that could have been done better.

Did you have a look at the guide on page 514?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-514

Did you read the included ReadMe file and clear the Windows icon cache? If you do both of these, TS should work OK. Many problems occur because ThrottleStop.exe gets moved around. Users test it out in one location like on their desktop, it works OK, and then they move the folder somewhere else on their hard drive or to a different drive. After that happens, cleaning the icon cache should take care of any icon issues.

 

Ive just got into using throttlestop and i was messing around with the Primary Plane Power limits. As previously i was using XTU i limited the turbo boost voltage and it helped with some heat issues with my laptop.

I previously had the PP0 Power limit unchecked and unlocked and set to 0
i messed around set it to 20 and locked it
Now even after a reset i cant seem to unlock it ??

anyone know what to do ??

 

Yes. Do not use the Lock feature if you do not know what it does. Trying to get the CPU unlocked can be a bit of a pain or a big pain depending on the laptop.

When you set Lock, the power limit register within the CPU becomes locked so it cannot be modified. This is a useful feature if a laptop is setting this register inappropriately but you should not set lock just to see what it does.

Once locked, completely shutdown Windows and shutdown your laptop. Uplug the power and battery if you have easy access to it and then plug your laptop back in and try starting it again. After it boots, do not run ThrottleStop. First, go into the ThrottleStop folder and delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file. After that is done, now you can start ThrottleStop and you can have a look to see if this register is still locked. It might be. This procedure should take care of most laptops but there are probably a few that do not reset the various CPU registers like they are supposed to. During this procedure, avoid using the Windows Hybrid shutdown feature. Let me know if this works.

 

awesome that fixed it is there anyway to limit the voltage for turbo short and long, it was possible with XTU ?? it seems to be locked ??, cause sometimes my laptop goes into turbo when im gaming and seems like it isnt able to pull enough power from AC so it switches to battery and it ruins gaming for me cause it goes into battery mode and reduces frame rates and sometimes crashes the game ??

 

@BravoKun - Glad to hear you got your CPU unlocked. So far I have no idea what laptop or CPU model you are talking about. You can use ThrottleStop to disable Intel Turbo Boost if that is what you are looking to do. That option is on the main ThrottleStop screen, left side about half way down. How about post a screenshot of Intel XTU so I can see what options you are adjusting in that program. If XTU is working OK, you do not need to be using ThrottleStop. Best to pick a single program to control your CPU.

 

Is there any method to delete a line or two in ini file w/o resorting to deleting the entire file? Any Specific line numbers or register id or something to remove grayed out Lock checkbox in FIVR?

 

Yes. You can edit the INI file however you like. If you run ThrottleStop without an INI file or if some of the various settings are missing from the INI file, ThrottleStop should use whatever settings your CPU is currently set to for its default values. Some of these settings will be saved immediately back into the INI file while with other settings you might have to open up the FIVR window and click on the OK button.

I will assume you are talking about the Non Turbo Ratio Lock box. Open the INI file and do a quick search for Non and this one should be pretty easy to figure out.

Code:

NonTurboRatio1=0x1
NonTurboRatio2=0x1
NonTurboRatio3=0x1
NonTurboRatio4=0x1
NonTurboRatioLock1=0x0
NonTurboRatioLock2=0x0
NonTurboRatioLock3=0x0
NonTurboRatioLock4=0x0

You can delete all of those lines or manually edit them. Windows 10 has a pain in the butt feature where by default, it might prevent you from editing and saving this file. If this is the case, before starting you will need to edit the read write permissions of the INI file so you have access to it. Right mouse click on the INI file, select Properties, click on the Security tab and then make sure that as a User, you have Full Control of this file. This stuff scares some users which is why I recommend the simple procedure of just deleting the INI file so TS can create a new one.

In the above example I have the Non Turbo Ratio set to 1 for each of the 4 different profiles. The Lock feature is not being used for any profile so all of them are set to 0. If you want to lock it, set it to 0x1. You can exit ThrottleStop, edit those values and then restart ThrottleStop and it will use the new values. If the Non Turbo Ratio has been locked, you will need to completely shutdown Windows and possibly unplug and remove the battery to get the CPU to reset itself. If the CPU register is being locked by the bios, you will need a modified bios to fix that. If the bios locks something, you will not have any luck changing these values in ThrottleStop because this feature of the CPU has been locked.

 

Hi @unclewebb , Just wanted to know if I can run TS with my undervolt settings + did the task scheduler, run it together with intel XTU. The purpose for intel XTU is that I wanted to see the graph as it is very noob friendly like me. I know TS has a log file but its not that convienent for me. If it's not possible TS still all the way.. ^_^

 

Sorry it was TPL button, I am really bad at remembering things. I will use Linux to edit the INI file.

 

Not necessary to do that. Just save it to the desktop after editing in Notepad and then drag/drop it to the ThrottleStop folder and overwrite the original. By defaut I have to do the same for EVGA Precision X, MSI Afterburner and NVIDIA driver INF and CFG mods because of Windows 10's idiotic file and folder permissions nonsense. You can also edit the folder properties to assign your self as the owner and give yourself full control to the folder and everything in it. I try to use portable applications whenever possible. I put those on my data drive and edit the permissions for the entire drive (root) and give full control to "Everyone" so I don't have to put up with the foolishness. I can edit INI and CFG files from another networked PC without the silly interference of Windows 10.

 

I followed this guide to create the scheduled task and have also cleaned the icon cache ( I faced no icon issues on the previous windows install and you helped me with this info )
TS loads on bootup with the scheduled task ( can see it in the task manager as well as a lower voltage in hwmon ) but there's no interface. If I run TS by doubleclicking the exe file then the interface / icons load as well.

Thanks again

 

It's OK to just come right out and say it. Most of us already know it is true, so we will agree with you. And, you'll feel much better afterward.

Repeat after me... " Windows 10 is digital feces."
Deep breath. " Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition is an abortion."
Breathe. " The Windows 10 development team is retarded."

The truth will set you free.

 

@akg7091 - Are you 100% sure that you followed that step in the guide? This still works for me in any version of Windows 10.

 

Followed the guide 4 days ago on the latest windows OS and its working perfectly.. maybe you did something wrong?
@unclewebb can I run TS with my undervolt + intel xtu for graph purpose only? thanks..

 

I don't know why, but Windows 10 Creators and above refuses to Start an application when computer starts in task scheduler.
@akg7091 Go to task scheduler and edit the triggers to start TS when log on, that runs TS at startup.
@unclewebb Is there any dependency I'm missing on W10 for running VC++ 6 IDE?
I have installed VC++ redist pkg'ed by Burf, VS 2015 Community Edition with latest netfx developer 4.7.1. Anything else I missed??

 

Yes, I have deleted / created the task atleast 10 times now. Have changed the location where I unzipped TS just in case. Tried at logon / at startup as triggers. Added a delay of 1 min / 3 mins just in case windows is unable to load the UI before bootup is complete ( my system bootsup completely in approx 30-40 secs max ) Even if I run the task on demand through task scheduler while logged on, ts will execute ( process is shown in task manager ) but without the UI / icons. The only way to run it with the UI is to manually execute the .exe file.

I have set the task to run with highest privileges and the task does run. Only the UI isn't visible. TS does work and HWmon shows that the voltages are lower than stock. This is a fresh install of win10 FCU

Thanks again and apologies if I am not able to help you debug the problem

 

@akg7091 - I will double check this tomorrow. You could send me a screenshot of each tab in the Task Scheduler so I can have a look for anything out of the ordinary.

When you run both programs at the same time, you have to ask yourself, what program is sending voltage information to your CPU. For most settings, ThrottleStop is usually in charge but it is hard to guarantee anything when 2 different programs are reading and writing data to the same CPU register.

Not sure. I do not run VC++6 on Windows 10.

 

I meant on your development PC, not on your new PCs.

 

Try my method in previous post(s). Select Start an app when logged in, that works 100% all the time.

 

@unclewebb gotcha.. thank you very much..

 

Man, did you get it working as per @unclewebb guide or is it Start an app when Logged in?