The ThrottleStop Guide

Yes, its Start an app when Logged in.

Edited:
Re read you message @Vasudev . If you are asking if unclewebb's guide work? It worked. I followed this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-514 So If i turn on my laptop without any password TS is automatically on my system tray with my undervolt settings on. I hope this a more clear answer. Sorry with the 1st answer as I was at work replying to your message.

 

I deleted ThrottleStop and my previous task scheduler tasks and updated Windows to version 10.0.16299.19

After that, I rebooted, downloaded TS_OBSIDIAN, created a folder called C:\Program Files (x86)\ThrottleStop and copy and pasted the contents of the zip file into that folder. I ran ThrottleStop.exe so it could create a new ThrottleStop.INI config file, checked the Start Minimized option and exited ThrottleStop and run it a couple of times to make sure that it was working correctly. After that, I opened the Task Scheduler, clicked on the Task Scheduler Library, chose Create Basic Task.. and followed the guide on page 514. When done I ran the task manually using Task Scheduler, clicked on the little green triangle Run option and TS started up fine, minimized to the System Tray / Notification Area. After that I logged out and logged back in and it started fine and after that I shutdown Windows and started from ground zero and ThrottleStop started up fine.

@akg7091 - As mentioned before, The Fall Creators Edition seems to be screwing up some software because it is starting programs in the background before a user has a chance to enter his password and log on. This has not created a problem for ThrottleStop. I am using Avast antivirus. If you have everything setup correctly, it is possible that your antivirus program is preventing this from working properly but it still sounds like your task does not have when logged in checked off. FYI - my Windows 10 computer has a 7th Gen Core i and a 960 EVO M.2 NVMe drive so it starts quickly.

On my development PC I have a Core 2 Duo, Visual C++ 6.0 from the late 1990s while running an OS so old that some users might not have heard of it. Windows Vista!!!! Why? Mostly out of spite but it is also more of a challenge. I find it interesting that you can create software like ThrottleStop while using some very ancient tools. The next version of TS coming out by the end of the month will be the last one using these old tools. I plan to switch development over to my Core i, Windows 10 laptop which is running a much newer version of Visual Studio. Will you notice a BIG difference. Nope. The only difference is the TS Bench consumes more power so it runs hotter and faster. Everything else seems to work exactly the same as it does now. The last couple of decades of updates don't mean squat to a simple program like TS.

 

No, I remember it well. I was just confirming.

Any noticeable difference between Create a basic task and Create a Task?
I use a different drive for running TS.
No issue, I used DOS(when I was 1st grade), Win 95-98(in 2nd grade) then there was a huge gap since I didn't have a PC until my high school running Vista. Vista was a nightmare sometimes, I re-installed it every month and even deleted entire registry hive HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE which Vista didn't even signal a error msg or BSOD. Then switched to XP for 3 years and afterwards to Win 7, 8.1 and finally W10.3. My Vaio died few years back and still lies in my cupboard as a classic antique piece.
That's good to hear that TS is migrated to newer IDE. Which version of VS do you plan to use 2015 or 2017?
I'm so addicted to TS, I wish there was a native W10 app to use on my phone or android to undervolt Snapdragons for more battery life and reduced heat.
I'll check out your method once again.

 

@unclewebb , I am having some random no error with your app. Sometime it exits itself after plugging the power without errors showing up. I checked the event log, nothing. Basically it crashed, the icons stay frozen at the taskbar but when i move over them. It disappears.

Core i7 7700HQ with GTX 1080 Max-Q, Windows 10 Fall Update 2017

+ It seems like I don't even need ThrottleStop to keep running after set the offset. It stays.

 

Check if TS is configured to run on AC and battery under different profiles.
@unclewebb On creators update build 674, TS won't open now. I think something is wrong with Windows.

 

I didn't do anything but suddenly the scheduled task is being executed properly and the icon is visible again.

Thanks everyone for the help

 

Something is wrong with Windows goes without saying.

What is the exact version number you are using? I just open up a command (cmd) window and it should show the version info there. The official Windows 10 Fall Creator's Update RTM version number is 16299.15 and there have been a couple of minor updates since then. My computer shows 16299.19. ThrottleStop is working correctly with either of these versions. Is the version you are having problems with before or after this version?

@MitoZo - Follow the Task Scheduler guide on page 514.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-514

Check out items 10) and 11) and this should solve your problem. It is not ThrottleStop crashing, it sounds like Windows is killing your TS task. Those grayed out options in the Task Scheduler will get you every time.

 

I'm curious if this error is connected to ThrottleStop and the recent Windows 10 FCU:

I've had several of these when I checked the Reliability Monitor. The only part that really changes is the last of the 0xfffff80... code. I noticed that it happens whenever I cold boot. After that, the laptop freezes upon restart.

Also, upon checking Event Viewer, I read this:

I disabled the fast startup, but I still have the problem of freezing upon restart.

A few errors I've seen were these:

I've checked Device Manager, and I don't have anything that needs updating.

 

Work as intended @unclewebb

Tried with stock Core voltage? Because TS work as intended with all later versions of Windoze. You shouldn't have freezing upon restart. If you still have problems, maybe re-install previous cancer OS Build from Micro$haft and re-test.

 

@Vaeron - Are you using ThrottleStop to under volt your CPU? What sort of stability testing have you done? Have you done both full load and part load testing. A single thread of Prime95 is a good test and should not overwhelm a laptop.

To try and troubleshoot this I would take a step back and do some testing with TS at default voltage settings. If there are still problems, do not run ThrottleStop and do some more testing. Usually a bunch of random errors is either a lack of CPU voltage or it can also be memory related.

Post some pics of how you have TS setup including what voltages and overclock you are using.

 

Sorry, I don't have pictures of all the settings right now. I did have a list of the settings I used before:

Code:

[Setting 1]
Core/Cache = -80.1 mV
PPL/PPPL = 45/60 & 0/0 (Default)
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 64

[Setting 2]
Core/Cache = -150.4 mV
PPL/PPPL = Default
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 64

[Setting 3]
Core/Cache = -150.4 mV
PPL/PPPL = 100
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 64

[Setting 4]
Core/Cache = -120.1 mV
PPL/PPPL = 100
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 64

[Setting 5]
Core/Cache = -100.6 mV
PPL/PPPL = 100
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 64

[Setting 6]
Core/Cache = -80.1 mV
PPL/PPPL = 100
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 0

[Current Settings]
Core/Cache = -69.3 mV
PPL/PPPL = 100
Multiplier = 39T
Speed Shift - EPP: 0

The only checked boxes on the main menu are Set Multiplier, Speed Shift - EPP, SpeedStep, and C1E. I also have CPU Performance turned on in the BIOS.

I've only done OCCT and AIDA64 temperature tests on it for about 10 or so minutes.

 

It's on creators update v1703 aka 16063.674 with latest patches as of 10 Oct.
Maybe I think maybe W10 Home Single Language is the culprit or windows in general because I have two others running w10 pro and even in those task scheduler only works when I select Open app when logged in.
I think only me and @0lok faced the same issue.

 

Is there a reason why you're not on the latest version:

1709 OS Build 16299.19?

 

I'm skipping this build FCU for now.

 

So, no reason.

 

Yes, particularly no reason to upgrade since I'm not interested in performance tweaks of FCU and made a mistake by clean installing Creators when Anniversary edition was working great.

 

In a couple of hundred upgrades (and a few clean installs..) of FCU Oct 2017 there isn't one person with any real issues because of FCU.

Many have commented on the obviously smoother operation of their platforms (both notebooks and DT's) and some have even noticed bug fixes too, including myself, which is always welcome.

Doing a clean install when you have time is never a mistake. Ever.

 

If you look around... I’m sure you will find more than one case Also a few screwed up in Nvidia/GeForce forum. Clean install is always better, but not a few can fix it themselves.

 

Thank you, i know these problems and FCU isn't polished yet for daily use.

 

Uh oh...


Is anybody else getting this? The filename I'm trying to run is the 8.48 version...

It kind of makes sense; it is the 1st of November here

 

Yep mine too. I'm guessing it has a timer in it to die based on date, with the anticipation of a new version.

 

Same here. "Reinstalling" TS (i.e. overwriting files) doesn't change anything.

Pretty anoying.

 

@unclewebb

Please save us
I'll donate (but you already know that!).

 

This is such a **** update system!
I am just now getting this as well. Shortly after midnight GMT. Presumably the software has a built in expiry date after which it doesn't start any more.
ThrottleStop 8.48 has been released April 5th, 2017. My face when it expires and there is no newer version.

 

You know what you just said? People should read the thread!!

 

I have not read the 679 page thread. What are you talking about? *confused*

 

kwinz said: ↑
This is such a **** update system!

Maybe start here @Dufus post. Start with... Do you

 

It's quite common with beta/testing software as it forces users to update to the latest versions, which minimises the chances of users reporting old bugs.

Obvious downside is it requires the developer to release a new version (even if it's just to reset that timer to a new date) otherwise everything stops. A slightly more graceful approach is that of MakeMKV (which is similarly in permanent beta) where it has a license key that expires every few months. The devs just post a new key on the public forum if the program itself is not updated.

Either way, it's free software that's incredibly useful so I'm not going to complain. I've found a way around it for my own purposes anyway (straightforward really but I respect the purpose of the timed lockout).

 

Ok thanks for the link. Now I understand.
The author didn't just simply forget to update. He did it on purpose.
Well ok it's his right to do that. But maybe we can find a better solution. Make it shareware. I would pay 10 Euros for a license. Or open source it and let others fork it.
Can somebody please help the poor man include a payment solution - there has to be a way. Don't just not say anything, hope somebody finds the donate link, and then surprise everybody when you get a burnout and user apathy.

 

But that's a poor man's update system. Instead it should update itself, like your browser. But yeah, free software. No right to complain. Actually I would pay for something which works better. Throttlestop also on average crashes about 5 times a day, which I worked around by doing the recommended Task Scheduler Job, which restarts crashed instances on average every 2,5 minutes.
Any alternatives to Throttlestop with the same functionality and without the time limit? (Intel XTU doesn't have the same functionality)

 

He will update when he have time!! Maybe he work with a re-fresh of the software. Be patient and see what will come. Mind you... None here in the forum is as helpful as @unclewebb

 

No...It's a 1-man dev teams update system. As a developer of any software, receiving bug reports due to users simply not updating or using old versions is frustrating at best and absolutely infuriating at worst.

You absolutely have something else wrong with your system if TS is crashing constantly. I have machines which will go for WEEKS running TS without crashing.

 

Yeah, it's not a good system. But I am certainly not blaming anybody working for free alone.

It happens mostly when I unplug the laptop from AC-power. And I do that several times per day. I have Speedshift enabled. It hasn't really bothered me enough that I start debugging it, because the Thread Scheduler workaround is quite unproblematic. It's a Dell XPS15, 2017.

 

THIS!!

 

for now you can set back the clock manually a bit and launch throttlestop again... i know i know...

may i suggest @unclewebb to remove that application disable thingie and instead make a warning box that doesn't disable the application ?.

anyway

 

hi there, in first wave, THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING PIECE OF SOFTWARE!

But today, when i started computer, it unable to start ThrottleStop, it tells me this version has now expired (8.48 obsidian), i know this happen when new version comes out, but i can not found any download of newer, than 8.48 - obsidian edition from techpowerup, is there any "oficial" website with download or... ? :/

Can anyone help me?

PS: soz, wast read discussion.. i see i am not alone in this.. This updating system is really pathetic..
Problem solved by set WINDOWS DATE TO 31.10.2017, throttlestop started again

 

@unclewebb I already lost 50% battery life since it expired but gained it back by changing dates to Oct and switched to correct date. So far its working.

 

That would be great add. I remember the expired version thing happened a year or two years before and update was not coming for months.

 

Temporary fix: Use RunAsDate

IMO, this is a much better option than messing with your system clock.

 

by the way is there any other program that disable the bd_ prochot bit ?

 

Switch back the date to older value and it will work.

 

@ 5P4MB0T's answer is great!
If you want to add RunAsDate with ThrottleStop to Task Scheduler, change the program and parameter to something like:
RunAsDate.exe 22\10\2017 12:35:22 "D:\Program Files (green)\ThrottleStop\ThrottleStop.exe"

 

This is one of the absolutely best free pieces of software available for computer tuning (and my purposes). Never had a crash or a problem. The UI terminology might be a bit confusing in the beginning - there is a learning curve... But anyhow, I'm also waiting for a non-expired version to appear...

 

Hello @unclewebb you are my savior when I do gaming on a mobile CPU, everyone said laptops aren't for gaming, but your hard work prove the opposite, thanks you! Usually when the old version of TS is over , and you already made new one, I hope you find the time to get us back in action.

 

Although I am very appreciative of @unclewebb for his work on Throttlestop I also think a non-destructive update system is really essential for this type of software. Considering that many users depend on this progam to run on startup to keep their temperatures in check, having the program not start at all due to the update system can create a whole range of issues for some users.

I think an update warning with a 10 second countdown before the warning closes would be more than adequate to ensure all users use the latest version without compromising existing installations.

 

Sorry, TS is unclewebb's baby. A labour of love.

Anything he offers should be accepted gratefully. This is not what I'm reading above in some/most of the above comments.

He has a reason (or reasons) to offer the program as is today. If it helps anyone; great (and yeah; it's helped many, many users).

If it doesn't work for you as offered? Patience is required. Anything else is showing your ingratitude.

After all, unclewebb of all people know when his expiration is set on his work(s).

Take care.

 

Adding support for Apollo Lake without access to any new hardware has taken longer than expected. That is the problem with free software; free to use but definitely not free to develop. No worries. Falkentyne and Papusan have recently come to the rescue so I can keep the lights on and keep working on project ThrottleStop. The next version will be finalized and uploaded shortly. If your laptop runs like crap without ThrottleStop, complain to the manufacturer. They are the problem. I am just the poor schmuck cleaning up the mess they created.

 

Keep up the good work, Master @unclewebb . And 95% of the laptops out there are jokebooks now. Either they run like crap or they are locked down with cancer firmwares. BTW I sent a donation

 

To be fair, your software is just a super good add-on even on already good laptops. It adds so much potential is a joke and while it requires a little time for the user to get an optimal configuration. In addition it also adds a lot of flexibility.

I think you underestimate your own software and I believe most of us would be happy to add a few bucks and get it bundled with our laptops on shipping already. I'm still kinda surprised that no company still has offered you anything to buy it.

 

Nothing is compared to your software... I consider you a V.I.P. for Laptop & PC world + Tablets too!. To me... I am satisfied with this update protocol... it is fair if I was the same situation as @ unclewebb

man... may God bless you @unclewebb