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    The ThrottleStop Guide

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by unclewebb, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. berkkocaturk

    berkkocaturk Notebook Consultant

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    You have lowered performance so that it wont throttle and lower performance :)

    The throttling mechanism works like a charm I suggest you to set everything to max performance with undervolt and higher power limits and if it gets hot it will throttle as you said it I have the older 8750H and cooling is the only throttle reason the way i set it.

    I did R23 test you can see you can improve it a bit more by proper cooling and max performance settings on throttlestop
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    I highly recommend to set it on TS core -200 and cache -125 or so since I am stable on those maybe you can get better results like that
     
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    brainiac122 Newbie

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    So there's no harm in this cpu running at 90 degrees and pulling 70-90W consistently under load? Obviously most things aren't going to drive it as hard as Cinebench. The PL's are pretty decent already but on your recommendation I'll probably go back to 0 speedstep and undervolt a bit more. Thanks for the help!
     
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    berkkocaturk Notebook Consultant

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    Intel specified Tjmax is 100C and all manufacturers leave a 5C gap. Meaning you are below it already. If it throttles at 95C. These temps are not ideal but normal and it is not going to even reach those temps under daily use.
     
  4. Guilherme Araújo

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    Aparently i got a work around that's is pretty much stable.
    Its giving me Thermal Throtle yet but no PL1 or even PL2 throttle.

    I disabled the Turbo Boost and Speedstep/Shift on Bios, and with the Asus i kind of activated it again by doing some clocks on voltages (similar to MSI).
    And with TS i could raise my cache ratio in a desired number (2600 mhz +-)...

    I can have any problem by disabling the features on Bios but doing this with the TS and Asus Tweak ?
     
  5. jhonnyot

    jhonnyot Newbie

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    Greetings!

    I'm back for some more help concerning my laptop: a while back, my computer crashed and one of my drives died on me. Ever since then, sometimes the computer will crash the exact same way, where the screen flickers and offsets for a second or two before settling, and the computer audio starts looping, and everything becomes unresponsive until I manually turn the computer off with the power button.

    I removed the faulty drive (a FireCuda 1TB SSHD), leaving only the SSD in which windows is installed, but the problem persisted even after a clean W10 installation.

    I seem to be able to reliably reproduce that crash by using TS Bench with the following values: Normal priority, 12 Threads, 768M size (using 96M doesn't crash), and fixed MHz. On both 96M and 768M size, I can see the PL2 limit being activated sometimes, but other than that, all flags look normal. As I mentioned, using 96M won't crash the computer, and using 768M with turbo disabled also won't crash.

    I'm attaching some more information below; any help is greatly appreciated.
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    Log txt file from a few minutes prior to a crash (which happened at the latest log timestamp, 12:24:00)

    EDIT:

    Managed to run a couple 96M followed by a 768M Bench without crashing. Here's the log file.
     
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  6. pressing

    pressing Notebook Deity

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    That is a very aggressive undervolt on the CPU core. Remove all the undervolts and see if there are any crashes. If that works, try some more conservative undervolts.
     
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    jhonnyot Newbie

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    I should've mentioned that this was the first thing I tried after the clean W10 installation. If anything, it seems to crash faster when not undervolted.

    Here's yet another log file from my latest test. This time I tried opening a game for a few minutes and monitor the temps, which seem high. So far, that seems to be the only indication that something's wrong.
     
  8. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Your log file shows that your CPU is running too hot. First you have thermal throttling and then the extra heat in your laptop causes VR TEMP throttling which means the voltage regulators are overheating. Your computer and games will never run smoothly if it is overheating like this. The thermal throttling temperature is set to 95°C. If you cannot improve your cooling, you have to slow your CPU down so it is not constantly running at this temperature. Voltage regulator throttling kills CPU performance. It is worse than CPU thermal throttling.
     
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    4W4K3 Notebook Evangelist

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    I wanted to finally share a quick log file(s) showing more evidence V-Max Stress is a great feature to disable. For reference I'm just playing a typical round of COD: MW WarZone using a 115W RTX 2070 8GB and previous to ThrottleStop 9.2.9.5 (V-Max Stress enabled) I would get a frequent PL2 Yellow Flag on the Core anytime the GPU Draw went over 115.0W in games and benchmarks. 3D Mark Fire Strike in particular had consistent flags. After disabling V-Max Stress I see frequent/consistent spikes in the range of 115-118W (personally seen 119!) and performance overall seems improved in regards to the GPU. Average clocks higher and maintain frequency. The PL2 Core Red/Yellow flags are completely gone.
     

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    disp0sable Notebook Enthusiast

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    After months of lurking and testing, is this the best I can do with an i7-10875? Under-volting the cache any more causes stability issues and I was finally able to tame it to maintain a 39 Mhz frequency with only some throttle at the very end of the stress test. Are there any additional tweaks you'd make? Here are the settings and logfile:

    https://pastebin.com/xMHNcTUJ

    Ciner20.png Ciner23.png Core.png Cache.png TPL.png
     
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    Hi everyone, I'm a noob here, so I apologize if I posted in the wrong spot! (If I did just let me know where to direct this.)
    I have a Dell XPS 15 9560 with the i7-7700HQ processor. About a year ago I did everything on this post to battle the throttling of my computer.
    The supposed sweet-spot for undervolting my specific laptop was around -120mV, but I recently got curious if that was as low as I could go. I tried increasing (or decreasing, however you want to say it) the undervoltage value beyond -120mV, and I was quite shocked to learn that I could undervolt my pc to -250mV without any crashes or BSoDs!!!! Alas, I was not paying attention. I can adjust the undervoltage values in Throttlestop and apply them, but they don't seem to take affect.
    I would test a new value, apply the voltages, and do a full shutdown and reboot (not just a restart), but nothing seemed to happen. I'm using Throttlestop 8.20 (as shown below), and I have included screenshots so you can see my settings. I hope I'm just clueless, but might I have to uninstall and reinstall/upgrade? I couldn't figure out how to insert pictures (maybe its because my reputation is low?), so here's a link to them.
    https://imgur.com/a/XBWSosP
     
  12. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    You have basically hit the wall. Your CPU is capable of running faster but this is not possible unless you discover a magic trick to make it run cooler. Your voltage and other settings all look OK so not much more you can do. Have you replaced the thermal paste a few times trying to get it perfect?

    Edit - Do not check the PP0 Power Limit box. There is no need to do this. Your CPU seems OK but on some older CPUs, this could cause a problem.

    Try downloading a newer version of ThrottleStop.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-9-2-9.276365/

    It appears that your laptop has disabled CPU voltage control. This is a common problem. Do a Google search for Plundervolt if you want to learn more. About a year ago, Intel decided to disable CPU voltage control to improve security. You will need to edit a couple of UEFI variables if you want to unlock this important feature. Here is some more info that explains the basic procedure that is necessary.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/fzv599/xps_7590_160_uefi_unlock_undervolting_and_remove/

    Your screenshot shows you are using a Speed Shift EPP value of 192. If you are interested in performance, I would not set EPP higher than 80 or 84.
     
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  13. ninjapants4

    ninjapants4 Newbie

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    Thank you for your help! On my AC / performance profile I have the Speed Shift EPP value set to zero, but on my battery profile I have it set to 192 because I'm not worried about performance, and I want to keep it from needlessly overclocking to save battery life. Is that a fallacy? Does Speed Shift EPP affect battery life?
     
  14. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Not sure. I mostly run my laptop plugged in so I have not done any hands on Speed Shift EPP testing. Use whatever works best for you. Just remember that a slow 800 MHz CPU might not actually be saving power because it will take 4 times as long to get a task done.
     
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    disp0sable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for your reply Unclewebb ! I haven't changed the thermal paste since I got the computer (4-5 months ago) but I will on the 6 month mark. I've been an OCD tinker monster but I guess the party stops here. Thank you for all that you do!
     
  16. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    He will not be able to sustain the frequency of 10875h without LM paste.
    I just manage to get the BCLK on this chip to 102.98 so one core boost is 5.25GHz and all core boost is 4.43GHz, instead 5.1 and 4.3. But hey this gave me around 127W during the TS bench and hit around 97C after cb20 with score of 4655, still tweaking RAM timings, so score might be a bit better, but anyway without any throttling as I have prochot set to 99C, but still need to mod the bottom case on my msi laptop to something like gt76 bottom case which with cooling pad should gave around 5-8C lower.

    Also abou his UV, I suspect his UV will not be stable at higher frequencies unless he has some gold chip in bad cooled lap. Mine can take only- 40mV on cache, more and I have hangs and crashes.
     
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    I have thermal grizzly but I'll look into better pastes to see how far this beast can go. It handles higher frequencies with the undervolt but not for long with the thermal throttling the higher settings produce but once I get my hands on some awesome paste, I'll be able to test how stable/unstable. I use to have issues UV the cache and ran into a post on reddit that said

    "Either not all 10875hs are the same or lots of misinformation.
    If you set the cache at - 80 you can set the core much much higher.
    Can't believe people think 10th gen can't UV well
    I'm currently at a - 195 core and - 80 cache. 100% stable"

    That advice helped my device UV to where it is now.
     
  18. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Do you have TGK or TGC. I assume you have TGK?
    If yes than this is not the best paste for laptop. Better would be phobya nanogrease extreme or Alphacool Subzero both 16W/mK. Absolute best would be conductonaut 73W/mK or the LM from the thermalright I think 79W/mK.

    I already said, more than 40 on cache and errors in TS on my 10875h, but -40mV on cache at all core 4.43GHz is decent and helpfull. Also depends on what you have set in vr acdc domain in bios. Core is different story as you can even set it to - 1000mV but on up to 7th or 8gen no gains from setting higher than cache from 8th gen refresh by setting core higher than cache you are basically removing overvoltage during avx loads as @Prema already said here.

    General statemant is that 10th gen does not UV so good as older generations.
     
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    disp0sable Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's TGC. I'll have to search through @Prema 's posts for more information and look into what the the vr ac/dc domain settings should be.
    Thanks for the advice on the paste ! I'll take a look at the 73W/mK conductonaut you suggested.

    Edit:
    @Krzyslaw I started to do more research on the AVX and undervolting settings I have on my i7-10875. I see that there seems to be consensus of 1:1 or 2:1 for the core/cache numbers and I saw that anything over those ratios are allegedly ignored by the system..


    You say your processor errors at -40, mine is currently at -95 and doesn't error in TS benchmarks. Is that because of a chip difference?

    I also tried the 2:1, it scored well but thermal throttled more toward the end of the Cinebench / TS benchmarks but when I place my core back at -.245, there's no throttling but the high score remained. Would this show that systems still benefit from the increased -.245 even though the consensus is 1:1 or 2:1? Just making sure I understand this whole thing for the most optimal settings for my machine. Any help or additional info is appreciated !
     
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  20. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    @disp0sable - The original 1:1 core cache ratio and the 2:1 core cache ratio have both proven to be myths. Set these two voltage to whatever gets you the best performance and the best temperatures while still being 100% stable. Cinebench R20 has proven to be a good test for this.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/download/maxon-cinebench/

    All CPUs are unique. Having to set the cache voltage to -40 mV to be stable sucks. Most 10th Gen mobile CPUs are stable at -75 mV. Some are stable at -100 mV. It is all luck of the draw.
     
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    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    i use the same laptop as you and support for undervolting was stopped after bios version 1.18. the only way to get it to work is by flashing back this bios or older. there is a setting in bios that allows you to rollback to previous bios versions, so be sure to have that enabled. also note that windows upgrade will automatically update your bios, so you need to disable allow windows firmware capsules in the bios also before you attempt the rollback.
     
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    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah -40mV sucks but that is way I wrote about ac dc values in vr core ia domain in bios which I have also changed. With default values I can set UV to much better value but the temps are worse than with changed value in bios plus my current UV
     
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    Hello,

    Thinkpad t490 8265u is here.

    A strange thing happened.

    I was using my laptop undervolted without a problem.
    But I wanted to format - clean install windows 10. (from a clean windows media creator)

    After clean install, i wanted to re install throttlestop. Surprise: system was already underwolted. I checked it by hwinfo and confirmed.

    How is that possible??

    After the format, now I am having some BSODs. When I check event viewer, its always happens after WIMAN error.

    I do not think BSOD happens because of undervolt, because I used it about 2 months without error.

    PS: I also see some Warnings about kernel-processor-power. the speed of processor 4 or 6 or 5 or 3 or 0 ... in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. the processor has benn in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report. ( 7 warnings at the same time)

    Any ideas?
     
  24. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Usually it is not possible. Completely shut down your computer. Hold the Shift key down on your keyboard and then choose the Windows Shut down menu option. This is the best way to be sure that your computer does a full shut down.

    When you start back up, do not run ThrottleStop. Run HWiNFO and see if it is reporting an undervolt or not. Some computers do not reset the voltage register properly when doing a hybrid restart. Doing a full shut down should clear the voltage register so any undervolt will be gone.

    The speed of processor is being limited sounds like a throttling problem. If you plan to run ThrottleStop to get to the bottom of this issue, post lots of screenshots so I can see how you have the program setup. Also run a log file for at least 15 minutes while your computer is loaded so I can check for throttling.

    The WIMAN error is usually related to the Intel WiFi or Wireless Manageability drivers. Did you update your drivers from the Intel site after your clean install? The drivers on the Intel site are more or less up to date. The Lenovo site, not so much.
     
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    Thanks uncle.

    After shift + shut down ( task schedule paused) volt values are 000 normal.

    For the WIMAN error, I will check the Intel drivers. I read similar problems about T490 and some other thinkpads, but Intel drivers also did not solve the problem. We will see... I will try.

    *** The speed of processor is being limited problem can be about throttling. Because I did not set it for long run optimum performance - low heat. I am not a power user no coding, rendering etc. So I mean generally I will never need 3-5-10 minute full power runs.

    I can see sometimes - constantly PROCHOT 97 or thermal throt is on. (on TS AC plan)

    I set the throttlestop for battery saving (on battery) and short term higher clock speeds than the standart and responsiveness (ac). (when I need more on battery, I switch to TS AC plan)

    So I use 2 plans. AC - Battery.

    On AC:
    i only changed voltage to -0.125 core and cache. -0.100 for gpu.
    nothing changed on turbo limits on FIVR and TPL (1core 39-2core 38-3core 37-4core37)
    speedshift is also un ticked. (it is changing with windows slider)

    On battery:
    again voltage is the undervolted same as above.
    on FIVR I set turbo limits: (1core 24-2core 21-3core 18-4core18)
    nothing changed in TPL
    Speedshift un ticked. (it is changing with windows slider)

    Is this a bad thing? Do you think, can I get more battery life on battery and, more short term clock speeds on AC?

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  26. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    I would check the FIVR - Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits option but if you are not having any problems, you do not need to do this. The rest of your settings seem OK.

    The Window's messages that your CPU is "being limited" are true. You have decided to lower the performance of your computer by setting turbo ratios lower than the default values when running on battery power. Is it OK to do this? Sure. It is your computer. You can do whatever you want. Too bad you cannot tell Windows to mind its own business.

    It depends on what tasks you are running. Some users prefer to use the ThrottleStop Disable Turbo option when running on battery power. I have never done any meaningful battery testing. If you get improved battery run time, then continue doing what you are doing.
     
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    hello, let me know that this message and settings are best for intel i5-10210u - I took it from your post http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-1265#post-11068543
    Tried read Faq but cant get it anyway. Just will see it on example and try to do.

    attached your picture from the post with best setting?
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    2. Have the Second question please - Could I get anything for i9-10900k , direct me to some setting and etc please?!

    Thank you!
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    How about 5.3 GHz, all core, all the time? Set the CPU voltage to however much voltage your CPU needs to be stable. Run the TS Bench test and set it to 16 Thread - 960M. This is a good real world test for the 10 core processors. It deliberately does not fully load the CPU. If this test reports any errors, your CPU needs more voltage.

    Too much heat? Use the All Core 52 setting instead.

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    Webbmaster Notebook Geek

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    > unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

    How about 5.3 GHz, all core, all the time? Set the CPU voltage to however much voltage your CPU needs to be stable. Run the TS Bench test and set it to 16 Thread - 960M. This is a good real world test for the 10 core processors. It deliberately does not fully load the CPU. If this test reports any errors, your CPU needs more voltage.

    53!? - looks quite scary but I will try - btw any difference to do it in Throttle program or in BIOS?
     
  30. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Why? Intel does not put a 10900K in a box unless each and every core can run reliably at 5.3 GHz. If each core cannot run reliably at this speed or if any core needs lots of voltage to run at this speed, then Intel calls it a 10850K and they put it in a different box.

    With good cooling, I think a decent 10900K on a good motherboard should be able to do all cores at 5.3 GHz. Start at 5.0 GHz and work your way up. ThrottleStop makes this easy. I included 4 buttons, 50, 51, 52, 53, so you can switch speeds at the touch of a button. No need to reboot. The voltage increases automatically.

    I am obviously biased but ThrottleStop works fantastic with these CPUs. ThrottleStop was specifically written to get the most out of the 10850K and 10900K. It gives you easy access to a wide range of settings so you can quickly get your CPU running at full speed.

    A lot of the long time overclockers think that with a desktop CPU, you can only overclock in the BIOS. Overclocking with software while in Windows is frowned upon. I disagree and my results with ThrottleStop prove it. The only higher 10850K - Cinebench R20 score on HWBot was using liquid nitrogen.

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4620203_ivanov_cinebench___r20_core_i9_10850k_8520_marks

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    Not too many 10850K owners can run the 53 multiplier for an entire Cinebench single core benchmark.

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    When I am finished playing, I can easily switch speeds and turn this CPU into a low power, cool and quiet computer.
    ThrottleStop gives me full control.

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  31. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    YEAH
    MY NEW PERSONAL RECORD ON 10875H.
    CB20.png

    Finished with 85C on the coolset core and 90C on the warmest core

    All cores at 4430MHz
     
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  32. custom90gt

    custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator

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    Any update to Tiger Lake laptops? All of the tricks to get undervolting enabled on my 9500 and 9700 do not work on the 9310. Disappointed in the least at Intel for that.
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    How did you get it working on the 9700?
     
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    Intel has used the same register for CPU voltage control since the 4th Gen Haswell CPUs were released. This register still physically exists in the 11th Gen U and G7 series but when you try to read or write voltage information to this register, it simply reports an error. That is why you see lots of blank space in the FIVR window when you run ThrottleStop on an 11th Gen CPU.

    My best guess is that voltage control might return as a special feature in the 11th Gen H or K series. It might be physically hardware disabled in the 11th Gen U and G7 series. Just another Plundervolt over reaction to keep Intel's corporate customers happy. I am not interested in buying something that I have no control over. Intel can keep their 11th Gen Tiger Lake. Great IPC but in its present locked down form, it is not for me.

    Good luck to anyone that can get 10th Gen U performance out of an 11th Gen U.

    [​IMG]

    I think most people tweak a couple of UEFI variables to unlock CPU voltage control. This works great on laptops with 10th Gen CPUs but does not do anything useful on the 11th Gen U and G7 series.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/fzv599/xps_7590_160_uefi_unlock_undervolting_and_remove/

     
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    to set cpu voltage (like max and dynamically?) - could you give a hint pls - where?
     
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    I enabled SVID support in the BIOS and then I use ThrottleStop to adjust the voltage. This is my everyday setting. It is OK for 5.0 GHz or 5.1 GHz or 5.2 GHz all core. This CPU needs too much voltage at 5.3 GHz so I do not bother trying to get that setting stable. 5.3 GHz is OK for light single thread benchmarks like Cinebench R20. At full load I would need more voltage and that would create more heat and would thermal throttle if I could get it stable. 5.3 GHz all core is not a practical setting for this CPU.

    My goal is good results while keeping the number of adjustments as simple as possible. Adjusting only the CPU Core in ThrottleStop by -70 mV drops the temps significantly. I did not undervolt the cache setting any in ThrottleStop. In the BIOS for load line calibration I use the Level 4 setting. This is listed as the default overclock setting in the Asus BIOS. You will need to use different voltage offsets when changing the load line value.

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    If you want to adjust the voltage in the BIOS instead, I use this setting to reduce the voltage.

    [​IMG]
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    For an interesting comparison, I used msconfig to change my 10 core CPU into an 8 core CPU. I also used ThrottleStop to run it at 4400 MHz so the comparison would be fair. Your 4709 score beat my score but not by too much. :)

    10th Gen CPUs, mobile and desktop, have similar performance if you run them at the same speed. Your results are fantastic for a laptop. I remember when 2000 was a good score for a 4 core mobile CPU. 3000 was a good score for the 6 core mobile CPUs. 4000 would be a good score for an 8 core mobile CPU. You are doing a lot better than that. Here is a good review.

    https://community.hwbot.org/topic/1...070-superaero-17-hdr-creator-laptop-unboxing/

    You might have to teach them how to use ThrottleStop.

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    Hi @unclewebb,
    hope you're doing well!
    I'm enjoying using TS so far, every week it's tweaking here and there to achieve those little improvements and it didn't ever disappoint me.

    As the manufacturer of my laptop (TongFang) didn't optimise TPL very well (I have 120W both on PL1 and PL2 when using Gaming and Turbo Mode), I'm trying to optimise these values.
    My need is to tailor them depending on TS profile I choose.
    As far as I read here in the thread there's no per profile TPL values feature but it's planned. That would be great!
    Meanwhile, I've discovered a post here on TS where you were suggesting to use ICCmax to obtain the same result.

    I did some test and it's working but I'm trying to figure out how to obtain the related output wattage on the CPU Package.

    Some math I've used:

    ICCmax * Core VID = CPU Package power.
    ICCmax / CPU Package Power = Core VID.


    Is this correct?

    Few questions:
    Does TS 9.2.2 offer any other method to customise the TPL for each profile?
    Should I set both CPU Core and CPU Cache ICCmax to the same value to obtain the related TPL?
    Or just CPU Core is sufficient?

    Thank you in advance for your kind reply!
     

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    Me too. That is why I have not got the adjustable power limits for each profile feature finished yet. Too busy playing with my 10850K. :)

    Maybe. Adjusting IccMax does not seem to be an exact science.

    I would. I think the latest version of TS will take care of this for you automatically. Setting these two values equally would guarantee that they are set correctly. It is always best to do some hands on testing. I know what my CPU does but I can never be 100% sure what another CPU will do unless I test it.

    The Turbo Power Limits code is 10 years old. I decided to rewrite some of this code before moving on to the power limits for each profile idea.

    Some desktop computers were recently having problems with both power limits being changed to 0. Not sure why. Showing what the power limits are currently set to might help users track down this turbo throttling issue.

    I also added some lock icons to this page so it will be easier to see when the various power registers are locked. The TPL window has been ignored because the computer that I have used for programming always had power limits that were locked by the BIOS. I no longer have that issue so I have been able to add some improvements. More improvements are on the way.

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    @unclewebb I will soon upgrade my laptop and was wondering your opinion with all the throttling and locking mechanism on 10th gen will I gain anything on 10750h over 9750h or 8750h. Thanks

    @Krzyslaw Excellent score there on 10875h May you share settings please. Thanks
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    In theory a 10750H is faster than a 9750H which should be faster than an 8750H but that depends on what features have been left enabled or disabled. I do not have a database of what laptops throttle or how bad they throttle. If you see a new laptop you like, do lots of research on Notebook Review to make sure it has no major issues.

    During these Covid times, I am quite happy with my desktop. No throttling last night during Cinebench testing at well over 300W. :D

    Edit - I need some cooler air so I can get some more Cinebench points. I guess I should have said, no power limit throttling. The 52 multiplier is starting to sag due to thermal throttling.

    [​IMG]
     
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    hi there,

    very happy with this app, running 9.2.9 because my system has an issue with BD PROCHOT and i have to force it (long story).

    one question: when the machine goes to sleep sometimes it takes a few moments like 5 seconds before TS kicks in so when you are in lock screen is a bit slow - not the end of the world - but is it possible to have TS to kick in immediately as soon as the pc resumes from sleep with some setting or something?

    currently having it in scheduled tasks for boot and it shows "Turn on" and green in taskbar. although if you click on turn on and then goes red in systray it still works.

    thanks!
     
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    i think i got it!, changed a setting in the task scheduler for like "disable if resuming from sleep" or something and now is much better!

    great piece of software @unclewebb, bravo!! (sorry i didnt realise you wrote this!)
     
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    Hello,

    ThrottleStop : CPU not supported (Xeon X7460).
    Is it possible to have it supported ? Will this have an effect on Windows 10 1903 1909 2004 20H2 ?

    I have a BUG with Windows 10 Enterprise 1903 1909 2004 20H2 ...
    All other version (from 1809) works normally.
    HP DL580G5 PC (4 x Xeon X7460) 32Go Ram and GFX 650 Ti.

    Testing an UltraHD Blu-ray with Windows 10 Enterprise 1809:
    MPC LAV 0.74.1.75 + MadVR + madVRhdrMeasure122:
    http://vandenk.free.fr/1809-mpc.jpg
    PotPlayer LAV 0.74.1.92 + MadVR + madVRhdrMeasure122:
    http://vandenk.free.fr/1809-pot.jpg

    Test with Windows 10 Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2:
    MPC LAV 0.74.1.75 + MadVR:
    http://vandenk.free.fr/20h2-mpc.jpg
    PotPlayer LAV 0.74.1.92 + MadVR madVRhdrMeasure122:
    http://vandenk.free.fr/20h2-pot.jpg
    I repeated the MPC test with madVRhdrMeasure122: same result, it's weird the "decoder queue" remains full but the others are empty ...
    Ditto with Windows 10 Enterprise 1903 1909 2004…

    Is there a way to change the CPU management for Windows 10 Enterprise 1903 1909 2004 20H2 ?
     
  47. berkkocaturk

    berkkocaturk Notebook Consultant

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    I had 5930k and it would draw up to 400watts on prime95 if you don't care about warranty sanding ihs surface makes it flat and smooth rather than concave and shaves couple degrees obviously an extreme solution but its not risky since it is just the ihs

    İmportant edit: make sure the hole is plugged with thermal paste so metal dust wont get in there
     
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    The X7460 is a 12 year old processor. I do not own a Xeon X7460. I have never used or had access to any Xeon processors.

    Try running CPU-Z. Click on the About tab and then press the Save Report (.TXT) button. Send me a CPU-Z report so I can learn about your CPU.
     
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    Check your messages. I took a stab in the dark. It should be interesting if we can get ThrottleStop working on the Xeon 7400 series.
     
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