The ThrottleStop Guide

Yea I get that, I just hope he realizes many of us want to help out, we just don't know how.

 

Let's pretend we can all read. Unclewebb clearly stated that all you have to do for the expired beta to run is to set the date back to somewhere in 2014, start the program and set the date back to the actual date again.
Hardly hairpulling, screaming, running up the wall kinda problematic so let's just do that until he comes back.

 

This is a terrible news for me UncleWebb. I looked forward to the new versionen of Trottlestop (beta). I think it was me who asked you about new features in Trottlestop (enter several adjustments in the trottlestop). I think it was in August 2014 since we discussed this. This is dreadful news for me. This software you have created and xtu is the dearest I have on my Alienware 17 as well as hwinfo64. Hope for the longest. Can you pm me.
There are some who may not understand that it costs a little to developing such software. If one should get things to work in such software, it need such a clear access to both knowledge, time and hardware getting to construct such software. This costs that said some money. Individuals (will not say names) who have written in this forum should perhaps think a bit before they start writing posts in this thread. You are priceless Uncle Webb...It is well nobody else is so assist as you in this forum. Anyone who asks gets help from you.

Friendly greeting (In Norwegian: Vennlig hilsen) Google translate hate me
Papusan

 

As an example I have an i7-4700MQ with unlocked bins to 34,34,35,36. While using one core allows the 36x bin I can not set all cores to 36, well to be more precise I can not set all cores to 36 and have 4 cores all run at 36. Just the way the processor works. Use to be able to do it on the older cores with C2D and IDA (the forefather of turbo boost) due to a bug but seems Intel have that covered in the later generations so currently no known way that I know of of achieving what you are asking. MSR 0xCE is read only so no changes there unless perhaps through a microcode update.

 

Please explain why it is not correct. I'm fairly sure he enjoys writing TS and he has shared that and done nothing but give, give give. How can you put a guy like that down?

 

There was my explanation, you have cut it down. Also I was continue zaczac's complain. So XTU does the same? I'll give a try, hope won't expire, after I set up

 

You mean this one, really?

TS7 is a beta, it's time ran out.

Is TS6 still functional, if so why are you not using that?

Do you think Unclewebb has some obligation to give up a part of his life in order to write new software for you guys?

Even if there were a donate button how many people do you think would actually donate. I would reckon nowhere near the amount of man hours Unclewebb has put into TS and probably why he gave up with the donate button.

 

OK People. Here is the deal:

If look hard enough on the internet*, there is a site or two that have unclewebb's donation information. I don't know how up to date the information is, but I doubt that he would change his paypal address. If you are unsure, the best course of action is to PM or email him and ask whether this information is correct (the txt file accompanying the download has his email but that is NOT his paypal address). But don't post it on the forums because it is against forum policy to post donation data** ***.

* I have heard good things about this search engine whose name starts with "G". All you have to do is to search for "someone**** paypal address"
** Hell, even this post here is problematic*** as per the forum rules (especially due to *), so it will self-destruct at some point.
*** We've had negative experiences with more than one occasion over different forum members asking for donations. We don't like to repeat that in a hurry. But this is a one-time thing due to the situation.
**** Wink! wink! *Giggle*
***** I feel like the sign painter in World of Goo.

 

What I meant I really meant, not sure how you getting it. TS6 work for Haswell ULV? I guess no. Am I asked new software? I am out, only came to tell my disappointment.

 

I understand your disappointment, it's a great piece of software that helps out with those devices which don't perform as well as expected but do remember that the manufacturer made it that way, not Unclewebb.

I was surprised at your reason but perhaps you are not aware that he lost his job a while back? I don't know if you have been in that position yourself but it can be a difficult and stressful time. A lot more stressful for most than not being able to use a piece of software because it has expired

 

As a matter of fact I did not know this. I can totally understand his emotional response better now than before. If I were him I'd have trouble focussing on hobbies too. It would however benefit him far more to reintroduce the PayPal donate button and tell people of his hardship. I know that I would be most generous for people in need that I am somehow connected to.
I'd still help him, even if his decision stays, but I would have to have a confirmed PayPal address and not some hidden dug up address he might not use anymore. I'll give away money easily, throwing it out not so much.

 

That's very kind of you tijgert but I also think you know that Paypal donations will never make up for losing his job. I think the original idea behind the Paypal button was in hope to buy other hardware for testing. Unclewebb is also the author of RealTemp which also had Paypal.

A post from 2010

Unfortunately the imageshack picture is no longer available as are a lot of imageshack images posted before they had a policy change and killed everyones pic to replace it with a link to their site. IIRC it wasn't enough to even buy groceries let alone hardware. This may be why you no longer see the paypal button.

However you may be possibly correct in your understanding of the situation, perhaps something that the younger ones have yet to appreciate.

 

Dear unclewebb and friends,

About my Asus N550jv gpu throttling issue:

I have solved gpu throttling:

Just downgrade the BIOS to older versions. I have done it to 206 and Gpu doesnt throttle, performance is nearly what it should be. But Cpu still throttle although temperature is not above 60 celsius. Throttle stop software still needed for cpu throttling, but this solves gpu throttling. So;

1- This is not a hardware issue, just a BIOS software issue.
2- This issue is with BIOS version 208.
3- This is a poor engineering from Asus engineers that laptop cant give the performance which it should. Meanningless throttling kills performance %50 and more.
4- I have spent more then 1 month of my free time to solve this poor software engineering.
5- I have not tried older then 206 BIOS versions but with older versions maybe also meaningless Cpu throttling does not exist.
6- I have to still use throttle stop software to stop Cpu throttling (if i try older BIOS versions maybe i dont need)
7- Shame on Asus engineers.
8- Shame On asus Enginers.
9- Shame On Asus Engineers.
10- SHAME ON ASUS ENGİNEERS.

 

If he said he was going to stop development if people didn't start donating to him because he couldn't afford to keep up development, EVERYONE here would donate. I guarantee it. I know if he made it clear that he wanted donations I would have donated instead of pretending that he didn't want donations.

 

OMG @unclewebb , I would buy this program for sure , why u removed the donation link I feel bad I searched around the program to give a donation but I read here that you removed the "feature".

Btw hope you life gets better in the future (sorry about my english hehe), I would be so happy if you "add" the donation link again in your program, I am sure a lot of people would do that, maybe you can do a "crowd-founding" and then you release a new version when the amount is met =D

Thanks once again for your incredible knowledge and time for this software!!!!

 

@unclewebb - please make another version which is available for sale and does not expire. I would buy it. Folks who want continued guarantee that the program works without time limit can buy it. I am sure many will.

I would not consider donating now, since its pretty clear that it will not guarantee continued working for the program.

You can still have a community version which expires as you want.

 

@unclewebb: Sell the program, I'll buy it.

 

I love the name XD

 

Enough with the crack discussion:

 

This 'gimme pig' attitude - constantly demanding software that UncleWebb doesn't actually owe anyone, won't make him change his mind at all.

Stop acting so entitled. If he releases TS again, I hope lessons will be learnt, otherwise just move on people.

 

Nobody is acting entitled. Did this outburst make you feel better?

 

I don't quite think you understand why people are so mad.


People are not mad because he pulled TS, people are mad because he ensured people that donations were not required and their happiness was all that matters - he then removed the donation links and everything was fine for months.

Months later, out of the blue, he complained about a lack of donations when his donation link/email is literally impossible to find and not visible anywhere, then went completely back on his word and pulled TS.

 

I agree 110%. Sell the darn thing, then you can get some return on money, and have a trialware with a time limit or adware or whatever so people can try it to see if it works for them.

 

The fact that he hasn't responded is pretty mindblowing.

I mean he knows/basically said go ahead set time back for it to open - yet still doesn't respond when people are offering to buy it right now knowing everyone can still open it for free.

I mean at least say OK i'm finalizing the next version. or screw everyone i'm done updating/working on it.

Edit to add that I would gladly pay for and support the next finalized version. As of now Intel XTU basically isn't working (not reporting any cpu data) and rmclock wasn't nearly as easy to use as TS7 is.

 

Out of the blue! You mean shortly after he lost his job when he had an income and was able to provide TS out of his own pocket and time. I gave a reason for why the donate button may have been removed earlier.

It's nice to see there are people willing to help with donations but as added before it's not really an answer when you have lost your job. If you think it is then I would suggest you hire a group of professional software engineers to provide a similar software. [sarcasm]You can use the donate button to recover your costs[/sarcasm].

Try to show some sympathy to the situation and give him some time to sort his life out, getting mad is only likely to push him further away.

 

Yes out of the blue, regardless of his life situation the post he made was completely unnecessary. No one said it would cover his costs and no one assumed that's what he was looking for. If he was struggling financially he could have simply stated that and he needs to stop development until he gets his life back together, that's fine but going out of your way to say that no one donates anymore and everyone is freeloading is just pathetic. He REMOVED all forms of donation, you can't find his validated Paypal address anywhere, of course no one is going to donate, THEY CAN'T.

I love his software and the time he put into answering my questions and everyone else's, he did that out of his free time and I respect that. I'm sure most of the community can say the same. If we knew earlier that he wanted donations many people would have done just that. I am not trying to attack him or offend anyone but the way he handled this was just wrong. I just hope he actually posts something to clear things up.

 

Seems some posters just can not grasp the bigger picture.

I give up, good luck with whatever it is you hope to achieve. I'm done.

 

^I'm with you.

Are you guys trying to say that you have never changed your mind quite literary over the night for whatever reason? Good for you if it is the case, but I reserve my right to be in doubt. In the mean time, what's done is done and we can all see what kind of damage control everyone is (NOT) doing.

 

Maybe if unclewebb would just drop by, say hi :hi2:, and tell us what "the bigger picture" is, we would know what to grasp.

Because everyone (including you) is grasping at straws and making assumptions right now.

And with all due respect, we have been pretty damn reasonable and muted by Internet standards as it is when the plug is suddenly pulled on a very popular program without warning. Sure, maybe some of us have been a little impatient, but you should've seen the sh*tstorm reaction when RadeonPro ceased development or EVGA Precision X was temporarily discontinued. I think it reflects on the high regard in which we hold unclewebb that most of us are patiently biding our time waiting for him to hopefully poke his head back in and work with us to make everything right again.

 

Read what I wrote in previous post. Try to think a little before you write in the thread.

 

That's not why people are angry, though. It's not about continued development, it's about something you already use and rely on pulled out of your hands.

 

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:


People... stop posting links to cracked versions. You're not being a hero. You're just enabling the lazy, unthinking person.

So knock it off.

Ain't gonna tell you again. We'll just ban you.... or something.

 

@unclewebb I would totally pay for a version of Throttlestop even though there are free alternatives for my use case.

I love how it's portable and the features provided by other programs usually require you to let them take a dump on your system and install crap you'll never use (I'm looking at you Asus).

Throttlestop allowed me to find a stable -67mV undervolt for my CPU and a custom TDP. I've also posted tutorials letting other people know about it [ex: 1, 2].

(First post even though I've been registered since 2008)

 

Let's all keep our cool and keep the threats to a minimum. We shouldn't forget that TS is free software, not buy or Shareware, free.
It's not illegal in *any* country to circumvent date limitations or else changing your computer's date to get it running again would be illegal too so banishment is quite over the top I think.

Lastly: Unclewebb himself told us how to circumvent the date check AND even pointed us towards patched versions appearing soon after he stopped... He's not leaving us empty handed (until he returns ),

 

Use only what workarounds or links UncleWebb posted. No one else has the right to post alternative links.

Free software is still copyrighted software. As such, only UncleWebb has the right to dictate what links can and can't be posted.

Everyone else will be in violation of his copyright and will, as per forum rules, be banned for posting links to cracked versions going forward.

 

And what if he says cracks are alright to post? Are you still going to ban people for obeying his wishes?

 

I think not, but until he does it is not allowed. It's the law

 

Edit: I was not making fun of what you said, I just couldn't resist posting the Judge Dredd picture.

 

Still, with the instant email notification of new messages I think we all got the link already.

 

The answer to that question was already addressed in the post you quoted.

But, for confirmation sake...

UncleWebb owns the copyright. In whatever method he directs the community with regard to how his copyrighted software is to be used will be honored.

That's what copyright is all about. The copyright holder has the right to dictate how the copyrighted intellectual property is to be accessed.

As it is, UncleWebb has not given written consent, expressed or implied, for links to cracked versions of his copyrighted intellectual property to be posted beyond what he has already posted. That doesn't stop you or anyone for searching for them and employing them. It just stops you from posting them here at this time.

UncleWebb has posted a workaround. People can openly discuss that workaround and even discuss third party software which would help to automate that workaround process (re: setting system clock). If someone modifies ThrottleStop to automatically perform that process and a link to it is posted here, that person will be banned? Why? Because they did not have the consent of UncleWebb to modify the program in that way nor did they have consent to post a link to it here.

It's not a threat or a complicated matter. It's simply a matter of policy and law.

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And that's fine since we are not privy to it and therewith cannot be held liable for it.

You cannot however, ask openly for a link to a cracked version be sent you via PM. You can certainly PM people to ask for or exchange links, mods, and files of any kind.

 

Hi. I was trying to downclock to my i7 4710MQ's Turbo Boost. I actually managed with Intel XTU and now all four cores are set to 3.0 GHz and doesn't go over.

But it seems I have to open Intel XTU everytime after reboot because otherwise it reverts back to default settings. As soon as I opened Intel XTU my settings start to working. I placed it in startup menu, now it opens at startup but it opens with fullscreen. I tried to run it as minimized but it didn't work.

So I found ThrottleStop and trying to figure it out. It seems it can do the same thing as Intel XTU. When I changed my settings in Intel XTU, I only decreased core multipliers and Processor Cache Ratio to 30x and so far so good. How can I do the same settings in ThrottleStop? There is "Set Multiplier" but no "Processor Cache Ratio". If I change 36 T (I think that means "Turbo") to 30 T, will it work?

 

is there a download link for the latest beta?
ill use the date setting then..

 

This is correct, it will limit to 3GHz if you limit to 30T.

 

Is that it? No newer versions of ThrottleStop? I was hoping that one day it would better work on ULVs. For the only thing that appears to work on my Thinkpad X1 Carbon is undervolting, but somehow it should be possible to unlock tdp or increase the turbo boost timer without messing with the bios - it happened to my notebook by accident:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thinkpad-edge-x1-x100e-x120e-sl-l/768535-x1-carbon-haswell-performance-boost-due-unlocked-tdp.html
The performance boost of 5-10W was awesome!

 

Interesting fact that you actually succeeded to get a 5W boost. Although it seems it was temporary in the other thread.

Still no clue if unclewebb will come back or not. Hope he is doing fine out there. You can still use TS7 by changing your computer's date for 2014 before starting it up (he actually told people here, in case you didn't know). Wish I could tweak my computer to do it instantly with the Task Scheduler or something else. Anyway!

First time poster here too! I've been using TS since September. That's when my Y50 arrived and I read about the stupid throttling I've boosted the clock @ 3.5Ghz under all cores. Then played with undervolting to get a nice stable clock on all conditions if I need full power (mostly gaming). I've been using my Y50 with a -95mv all day long which at full power (3.5 Ghz on all 4 cores) maxes out between 45-47W TDP. Pretty happy with the CPU since then!

 

Guys you can use Intel XTU for machines that don't work with ThrottleStop 7. It's not portable or as lightweight but it works.

XTU includes but is not limited to:

• Core Voltage
• Cache Voltage
• Graphics Voltage
• Package Current Limit (in Amps)
• Graphics Current Limit (in Amps)
• Turbo Boost Short Time Window
• Turbo Boost Short Power (in Watts)
• Turbo Boost Long Power (in Watts)
• Base Clock Adjustment
• Turbo Frequency (Multiplier) for 1-18 Cores
• Cache Frequency (Multiplier)
• Graphics Frequency (Multiplier)
• Temperature Monitors
• Stress/Benchmark Tests

 

A lot of controls in XTU that are locked for most people work in ThrottleStop.

 

I found one in unclewebb's signature on the techinferno forums.

 

It's the other way around. With XTU my HP wont move an inch over the "default" settings. They are not even the supposed default values like other systems get, but lowered ones. ThrottleStop on the other hand works flawlessly

 

Hi UncleWebb, a similar scenario but I'm trying to undervolt (RMClock doesnt work of course) my i5-480m (Haswell 4th gen) to reduce the heat load/fan speed via Throttlestop 7. Any advice? The voltage settings are unfortunately greyed out