8770w Elitebook?

Come one, why do you tell this elitebook is rubbish? You should make some statement when you say this...

 

ok , i will make review but later.
Tomorrow I'm going to a festival Godskitchen-Fusion ( Armin van Buren and other top DJ)
Armin van Buuren @ Godskitchen, Odessa & Lviv, 23.08.2012 - YouTube
I love it

 

I would really love to hear a good review as I am ready to make this purchase over the Dell M6600. Using for Solid Edge mobile workstation. There are some features i really like on this one over the Dell.

 

Okay man, we look forward to it. And have fun there! :thumbsup:

 

I've had several HP workstation laptops and I've never had any problems with bad cooling. The single fan cooling has worked well for me at least and I've never had any problems with overheating. HP elitebook might have some drawbacks but cooling is not one of them.

 

Has anyone seen the DreamColor on the HP Business Class notebooks? It's a non-IPS RGB LED, I understand with a matte finish.

I'm trying to get some comparisons with the Envy 17 3D screen for a friend with visual issues who needs bright, high contrast, high resolution screens. The 3d screen has a 120 refresh rate and all other HP screens are the usual 60, as well.

The problem is that her new Envy 17 3D preconfigured model is having strange problems with downloading and with IE9 windows over-lapping with earlier contents, freezing, etc. -- but all of this only intermittently -- so it's going back to the vendor during the return period. Who knows if it's a RAM or a graphics issue, for example?

She was torn between the 8770 Elitebook and the 3d Envy specs-wise, but does wonder about the luminosity of the 8770 screen. The one thing the Envy 17 3D screen is is bright and the contrast is pretty darned good, appearing to exceed the official specs HP offers in writing and looking more like those in reviews (i.e., rivaling that of the DreamColor in contrast ratio).

So, is the 8770 DreamColor screen a deal-maker for someone who needs to avoid glare and have true colors and high contrast and resolution? Is the Elitebook 8770 screen really as dim as the specs would lead one to believe? Anyone know? The Envy 17 series touts itself as a professional laptop, in the non-commercial line-up of HP products.

Any thoughts on any or all of the above? Thanks....

 

The Dreamcolor is ineed an IPS display with viewing angles you would expect from an IPS display. The brightness is 300 nits is not the best but not the worst either. I don't have the display on maximum brightness.

Color reproduction wise, you don't get any better with than with the Dreamcolor. Now it feels that I cannot go back to a normal display under with a gamut under sRGB at least.

 

Could you be more specific about the discount and how to get it?

Thanks...

 

I would also like to know how to go about getting the discount.

 

Ordered one of these, lets see if they are better than the 8760 refresh... god i love my 8740W lol

 

We'll see how you can deal with the new chiclet keyboard. I personally don't like it.

 

You can now configure the 8770w with the nvidia GPUs.

 

Hi My freinds!
I will promissed and i will done.
My laptop HP EliteBook 8770w

Tech spec:
CPU - Intel i5 3320M 2,6-3,3 Ghz (3 Mb)
RAM - DDR3 4Gb 1600 Micron
HDD - SSD Crucial M4 128Gb SATA3
video - AMD (ATI) FirePro M4000 1Gb GDDR5/128bit
Screen - 17,3" 1600*900
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This is great, thank you for sharing this.

 

awesome, both on the hardware and the puppie! Thanks for sharing with us. How do you like the keyboard?

 

FYI - I have posted multiple places trying to get information on how to get the 28% discount and no one has made any replies in the past week or so. I may be stuck getting the Dell with the heavy discounts since my employer has already purchased one for another department at a great price.

 

Let me know when you get those coupon codes.

 

Still no luck in getting anyone to reply with information on how to get the discounts. If i hear anything I will post back here otherwise no 8770W for me.

 

My understanding from an HP small and medium business division rep (which is different from the large commercial business division) is that 20% is the standard discount on the individually configured models ( the CTO8770w code is at the HP Website in that section: http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/Mi...&ProductLineId=539&FamilyId=3565&BaseID=38900 and that, upon request to the supervisor of the rep, the discount is usually bumped up to 26% this year (28% was last year). Additionally, their computer systems in the small and medium business division are set up so that it is impossible for the rep to enter a discount of more than 30%

The "smart buy" pre-configured models are not subject to those discounts, BTW, for the 8770 but the 8760 pre-configs seem to have a few extra discounts being applied right now.

Hope this helps. A friend has just ordered one. Will report when it arrives and I have seen it....

IMPORTANT P.S. ON SPECS: You might not notice but at the link above there is an embedded link to the complete specs page listing of links to HP business products near the top right as "Technical Specifications" right under the chat with a rep link. Once there, scroll down to the Elitebooks to get the html or pdf versions of complete worldwide specs. [Every time I try to paste in the link here, it literally disappears after the "save changes" operation -- strange.]

It took my friend about a month to find that page as even the HP reps she consulted almost daily with questions about this vs. the Envy 17 3D didn't seem to know about it. When you compare the 8760 and 8770 it becomes apparent that the new model's chassis appears the same as that of the 8760 but minus the ambient light sensor and button of the older model. The screens appear the same (and isn't it nice to know brightness, contrast, IPS, etc.) on the two years' models but the surprise is that configuring an 8770 or an 8760 seems to yield a very similar price -- but the Ivy Bridge processors are faster and the video cards generally better on the 8770.

Funny about the banishing of the ambient light sensor -- generally a newer chassis brings additional features, not fewer. Perhaps there was a problem with its functioning with DreamColor screens? Who knows....

 

I always switch the ambient sensor off because I think it doesn't its job well. Screen brightness is better adjusted manually and if I want to save power I just reduce the brightness manually. This sensor is something I wouldn't miss at all.

 

Has anyone been successful in installing an running an operating system on an MSAtA SSD operating on 8770W? Please relate your experiences in some detail... Brand/size/Model of MSATA SSD, operating system, any problems encountered, resolution/workarounds/tips/brickwalls, etc.... Thanks, Aloysius

 

While I have not yet had the experience, I would like to pass along what seems an important tip that I read in an HP Envy 17 forum at the official HP Website: One user reported that one will have problems installing an OS from recovery DISKS when using an SSD, so a FLASH DRIVE is recommended for the installation. Makes sense given the different nature of the SSD beast. In general, one needs a 32gb flash drive for such operations.

Good luck!

 

"One user reported that one will have problems installing an OS from recovery DISKS when using an SSD, so a FLASH DRIVE is recommended for the installation."

Could you post a link to the Envy 17 post that you are referring?

 

"The recovery CD doesn't work with SSDs. I ended up copying the OS partition from the factory hard-drive onto my SSD, then used a retail version of windows to repair the copied partition so it would boot." See number 6 under "I might return it" at the review page:
HP ENVY 17t-3200 3D Edition Notebook PC | HP® Official Store

See also:
Upgrading Envy 17 3D primary HDD to a SSD - HP Support Forum

There was also a posting on an official HP Blog somewhere (but I don't have time to find it right now, sorry) which indicated that the easy way around this was to make the recovery disks yourself on a 32gb flashdrive rather than on disks. Then all drivers, etc. are in place, the flash is a one-step operation and copies to the SSD easily and directly and all in one step.

The second link I provided above implies a storage issue which shouldn't affect performance, of course, and suggests a DVD as work-around. The first link above gives the impression that there was a problem with the recovery disks but the blog post I refer to implies that the issue is the interrupted sequential nature of the file transfer using multiple recovery disks.

Good luck!

 

really strange, BTW, because there is a model (B9C90AW) only with SSD, so it should work to use the recover DVD with SSD?

 

I try to do that today with mSata SSD 128 GB from Crucial, on EliteBook 8570W , it recognize SSD all Ok it also work , BUT BIG problem it is unpossible to made at BIOS that mSATA is first boot device , at bios boot there are NO mSATA , so it is unposible to say to bios that they must start from mSATA disk. Even there in machine is only mSATA with sytem they will not start because they do not want to see that disk like disk which can be boot disk ! But in Bios you can see mSATA disk and use it without problem but not for boot disk or system disk. Dhis problem was with bios from 15.8.2012. So i hope HP will repair bios , because you can boot machine from HDD, ESATA, DVD, USB all only from mSATA you can not !!! Sorry for my bad english.

 

I called HP technical support about failure to boot from MSATA. According to the literature accesed by the specialist, boot from MSATA should be possible. The following steps should be performed before MSATA devices can be selected for boot:

1. During Boot, go into the BIOS F10 option;
2. Select system configuration;
3. Select Built-in device options;
4. scroll to MSATA;
5. Check MSATA.

According to the technical materials available to the technician, this Should allow enablement of MSATA to boot. The tech asked me to let HP know ASAP if the steps outlined above do not enable successful boot from MSATA... As I do not have 8570W/8770W yet, I leave it to you Mat and others to try things out, and posts results here. I will follow up with HP if needed.

 

I have 8570w and this not working !

See here at details : http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...81919-hp-elitebook-8570w-owners-lounge-4.html

 

Hey guys, do the elitebooks utilize Optimus tech yet?

Wondering about the battery life, and what you guys are seeing on average.

 

No, because Intel still doesn't support 10-bit displays.

 

Gotcha.

and battery life is around 4 hours?

 

I received my first 8770w a few weeks back, it was shutting down on its own so I sent it back for another one, that one came in with the right rear corner of the aluminum deck pulled up so that too went back. I also noticed on all 8770w's I ordered that the space bar was squeaky which is troublesome considering the cost of these machines. The last one I received has so far been excellent except for the squeaky space bar and the occasional IE crash which is another thing these machines do, unless they are formatted fresh. We used the HP build which is my fault, I should have formatted and started fresh.

Aside from the things noted I like its performance, I'm not a fan of the non-dream color display, the contrast could be better but for work it's fine. Boot up from post is about 12 seconds into Windows including logging into the domain which happens at post with a finger print scan. I have the display set to come out of sleep when I open the lid, it's near instant which is very nice.

One of the employees is using two of the 128gig M4's in RAID 0 on his 8770w, I'm using the M4 and the 500gig HD that came with it, I built another one with dual 240gig Intel 520's, he didn't want me to use RAID 0 on them and frankly, they scream by themselves so he is very happy.

I'll post more after we have some miles on them. My plans are for rebuilding the machine in Jan using Intel 520's in RAID 0 and a 1TB drive in the Blu-Ray slot, we'll see.

 

Hi all !
I need little help.
I wannt to buy IPS screen (Dream Color) ( for this laptop) but i can find item

 

Anyone knows how to disable the ambient light sensor on the 8770w, it's freaking me out!
FN + F11 didn't do the trick...

 

Did you try disabling it in BIOS?

 

Didn't try that yet. Would that do the trick?
Should be an option in HP's power assistant

 

I don't use the power assistant so I can't comment on that. I have an 8560w but it should still be the same (mine does disable it with fn+f11), did you install HP Hotkey Support?

However there should be an option in BIOS as I've got mine disabled in there.

 

I think I was wrong. I think the 8770w doesn't even have a ambient sensor. It was Catalyst Control Center > PowerPlay > Vari-Bright that was constantly changing my screen brightness.

Thanks for your help anyway.

 

Ah yes I forgot about that one, indeed it's very annoying.

 

Can you give more information about the keyboard "action" and the shipping materials and their possible role in the defects you experienced?

My friend's new 8770 arrived about ten days ago in a thin corrugated cardboard box with less than an inch distance between the computer and the box itself. While the box itself arrived relatively unscathed, the computer has had multiple problems. No, the space bar doesn't squeak but is noisier than the other keys. The clock is running a minute ahead, and did that right out of the box. There are frequent windows popping up here and there saying a disk is detected or removed from this or that port -- when there are none there. The DreamColor screen has a pale pink wash on the left third of the screen, fading from left to right to a kind of gray, when you are looking at a white background.

The 200w battery won't fit in the back of the unit, and the tech rep on the phone said, too bad, we don't warranty the battery. Of course, another tech rep and a supervisor said that the previous tech was mistaken -- but the effect on a customer of being "officially" informed that HP can send a defective battery and that's just too bad is unspeakable.

Clearly the unit was damaged by being thrown around in shipment even if the box doesn't show signs of denting. No double boxing apparently -- which some competitors routinely provide.

The screen's blackness and letter clarity seem only to be superior to that of the Envy 17 3D (with the Radiance screen and 120 refresh rate)when the unit is set to 10 bit color. The Elitebook's refresh rate is 60 (weird, huh?).

Oh, don't be surprised if you call Elite tech support and the rep tells you that they can't help you adjust the color unless HP sold you the color calibration tool; some tech reps have never heard of the Catalyst Control Center for ATI graphics.

Here's my question on behalf of my friend: The action of the 8770 keyboard is very stiff -- one rep said that is intentionally so because the predecessor 8760 model had a softer feel. This was commented on in at least one online review somewhere and an Elite tech rep had heard it from many customers. My friend has hand disability issues and needs a softer keyboard.

So it should be easy to find out about the 8760 to do a return of the defective 8770 and order the predecessor model. Yeah, for the same price you'd get only a 2nd gen Intel processor, but if you have hand problems, you have hand problems.

Well, you'd never believe it but the most my friend can get confirmed from HP is that the keyboards are identical. Yeah, well, keyboards can be identical but if they aren't seated and supported in the chassis in the same way they will have different "action", softer or tighter.

So, does anyone know anything about the keyboards of the 8760 and 8770? Has anyone tried both? Is it true that the 8760 has a softer feel than the 8770?

Any and all comments and out-of-the-box experience anecdotes would be appreciated.

 

Technically both 8760w and 8770 share the same chassis and the same keyboard ( same spare part numbers for both). There is absolutely no difference.

I can not imagine this being true, unless HP swapped all keyboards , even the spare keyboards for the 8760w. I guess that would not go unnoticed. When i hear (sales) reps talking most of the time they do not know very much about the product they are talking about.

 

Well, actually, it COULD be true. Here's why:

The chassis is not the same because the 8760 has a light sensor and the 8770 does not.

Also, I know from having a Sony FW 190 and an FW 390 (refresh of the 190) in the same room at the same time. The first edition had a soft keyboard, same part number as the 390 with the stiff keyboard. When you looked at the keyboards, the plastic appeared to have a different sheen (polished vs. matte) so that the same part number actually could refer to boards manufactured in different facilities. A Sony level 2 tech told me that the wiring patterns for the same keyboard were very different with the later model being more complex.

Further, the internal workings of the two Elitebook models are not necessarily identical, either, given the presence of the light sensor and the slightly different chassis. All that is needed is a different support bar under the keyboard, or a different location of a support bar and the "feel" of the keyboard can be different.

And then there are mid-course corrections where some manufacturers actually stop the production line to make a change (perhaps to "strengthen" a keyboard's positioning) and no change in the model number will reflect it -- only the production date.

So, you see, if I had not myself seen and felt a difference in two identically numbered parts on an original and a refresh of the same model, I'd have thought what you think.

But I don't think that one can make such an assumption at all -- one needs to hear from a design engineer, for example, to be sure.

 

Actually, where did you get the idea that the keyboards have the same part numbers?

My friend informed me that the service manuals for the two models, 8770 and 8760, show completely different part numbers for the US models' keyboards. Not sure about Germany, however.

Also the manuals show diagrams where the models are "torn apart" into all of the constituent parts and my friend reports that the two chassis are completely different visually below the hood, as it were.

 

It seems you are right.

It was quite late yesterday and i must have been half asleep. The mistake was on my side, i simply compared the 8560w and 8570w´s spare part numbers, instead of the 8760w and the 8770w´s.

For the the 15.6" models the chassis and the keyboard are identical, but as you stated for the 17" 8770w and 8760w , there keyboards don´t share the same spare part numbers. Since the part numbers are not identical, it seems that the rep´s statement might be true.




8760W spare parts list

8770W spare parts list

 

And how did your computer arrive? Was the shipping packaging protective? Double or single-boxed, etc.?

Reading in this and other NBR forums reveals that the Dream Color screen may not be all it has been cracked up to be (pardon the pun) -- but supposedly the newer models don't have the same problems as the earlier ones. Any comments?

I am freaked that the Dream Color displays listed at your links indicate that they are different displays. Oh dear. Has anyone seen an 8760 and an 8770 side by side? The 8760 had an ambient light sensor; the 8770 does not. Is the 8770 screen the first DreamColor in the series to _not_ have an ambient light sensor?

It is good that you found the 8560 and 8570 had the same part numbers for their keyboards because this means that part numbers are indeed distinct and that there are not multiple numbers for the same part.

I hope you and others will tell us more about the displays, the keyboards, and the packaging of the 8760 and the 8770. Thanks....

 

On all 5 (2 had to be returned for me to get one I considered good enough to keep) 8770w's we have received there is at least one key that is "noisey", for 2 it's the space bar for the last it's the backspace key and the space bar.

We ordered the laptops from CDW and they arrived in very thin HP boxes, unusual for CDW, they typically use another box with big bubble's to protect it. All laptops came unscathed here as well but there is ample chances for damage considering the box being used.

The laptops participate on a Domain so time is kept nearly perfect, I'll have to see how well they do when away from the office.

I haven't run into this one yet but we'll keep an eye out.

None of ours is dream color but we do have an older model with it and it doesn't have that issue.

I have run a few large helpdesks in my day and you wouldn't believe what people make up to get off the phone. A good manager will nip that in the bud but in many cases you'd be suprised that management is the ones actually telling their people to say the wrong things. It makes no sense and there seems to be no follow up from upper management at HP because that sort of thing didn't use to happen.

I think much of it is poor quality control, I am NOT impressed with the build quality of these machines.

The dream color display on our machine was at 60hz as well. Kind of makes the name "Elite" sound foolish 'eh? Dell has the same problem, talk to their "Pro" support and get a parrot that can read but not think for themself. For those that work at either HP or Dell high end support and do a good job, that's great, I wish I would get you on the phone some time. Most just plain suck.

You know who knows less than support? The HP reps, they make it up as they go, every single call I make to my HP rep ends up with me having to research the truth because they never give it or simply don't care to learn it. The 8770w's that we have aside from the noise issue are very nice to type on, as good to type on as my Dragon, not too stiff or soft but we don't have hand issues.

They sure look like they would be the same but I wouldn't go backwards to try, I doubt they made a change but hopefully somebody has both and can answer this for you.

I know I'm knocking HP a bit here but their support deserves it, it has gotten so bad over the years. Since the number crunchers decide how good support will be it will continue to get worse, such is life.

I still like most of their laptops and I still buy their servers, I don't like calling server support either anymore but Dell is worse so we take what we can get.

Good luck figuring things out for your friend!

 

One quick note, this is the coolest running laptop I have ever used, it never gets hot.

 

I just got my hands on my new 8770w (Hewlett Packard HP Smart Buy EliteBook 8770w i7-3630QM 8GB 750GB DVD/RW 17.3" W8P # C6Y84UT#ABA)
The laptops seems and feels really great. But I have a doubt about the way it gets hot!!! I just played Battlefield.3 for just 10 minutes and the laptop was very
hot! I wonder if I should be concerned about this? I just lost my vaio sony due to its gpu over heating!

I also have a little question about the intel 24gig m-sata. In bios I can choose boot from m-sata. Is it worth installing my windows on that? will I really get much
better speed or is all I need to this laptop to go fast already cached on the m-sata?

 

how high are the temperatures? Try coretemp or a tool like this. And I would not doubt that you can get problems with over heating with your new HP, too.

 

I installed 6.08-nvidia-system-tools and used system monitor to check the gpu temp. after about 10 minutes of playing the gpu temp was 75 degrees centigrade.
right now gpu is idle at 38 degrees. For short I guess this should not be a problem but what if I use the gpu at full power for few hours? is it preferable to avoid this
kind of use or it can be safely be done with this machine?



I also have another important question:

I have a second hard drive from my previous laptop and wanted to use it with my 8770w. I opened the back lit and to my surprise this was just so practical and easy.
But one thing that seems weird is that the hdd that came with the laptop (Hdd1) is there with a cover to hold it tight in place, but the place to put the second hdd is
just an open space with no lid nor any kind of possibility to screw and tighten the hdd in there. New hdd got fit easily but it's loose! is this normal? what should I do?
do I need to buy something separately for this ? By the way I attached here a picture of it so you can see. Although the laptop has worked just few hours and it new
the back door and 2nd hdd space looks very dirty!!!



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