8770w Elitebook?

1) 75 degrees centigrade for a gpu under high usage is very good, I think even 85 is normal and most of gpus can stand up to 90-100 or even higher (but of course it depends on your version)

2) it is not dirt, I guess, it just is not painted and that is how the case looks like (is it magnesium or such a kind of metal?)

3) you need a special bracket for the 2nd HD to hold the HD and then both will fit perfectly into the 2nd slot. the plastic cover is something else and covers only the 1st hd

check out Maintenance guide

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...support/SupportManual/c03579708/c03579708.pdf

and part locator

HP Customer Self Repair Services Media Library

and maybe remove/replace videos

http://h20464.www2.hp.com/csr.htm?prodSeriesId=5257511

 

thanks you very much Sotton,

I finally installed the second hdd by simply putting some paper under it to adjust and it seems ok. I will have to buy the bracket and
I have to find out where to get this in france. it's good to know that gpu temp is ok. It still feels too hot to be near the laptop when playing!

 

you can try out your HP Parts Store (there should be one for France) with the part number (from the maintenance manual)

start from here

HP - France | Site officiel HP France - Ordinateurs de bureau, ordinateurs portables, serveurs, imprimantes, services, solution et bien davantage

The USD price is about $13 (part no should be 642774-001 )


Maybe this direct link still works

http://h20141.www2.hp.com/Hpparts/S...2D829&SearchIn=PartNumber&SearchPN=642774-001

 

you can use gpu-z to monitor your temperatures ( Downloads | techPowerUp )

if it feels high now what will you do in summer?


But of course, a high temperature over hours could be a problem, but I don't know how high is high in your case...

 

thanks again 642774-001 can be found on hp US site but could not find it in france site. I think I will have to order it from us and ask
a friend to send it to me. Damn Hp , you could put one of those in a 2500$ laptop for free!!!

 

Does anyone know what models have the Dreamcolor display? All of the models I've looked at say they have the non Dreamcolor screen. I contacted hp and so far they haven't replied back.

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it depends on the country, too, so it is difficult to say, e. g.

LY564EA
LY568EA

 

Anyone know when the successor to 8770w will come?

 

maybe announced at CeBIT, March 5th? It will be interesting, if there is just a more or less updated version (new processors and so on) or a new casing also because the 8770w looks like a 8760w it is about time, I think.

 

Looking forward to it

 

Anyone betting on the next model name? Let's review recent hisotry:
8710w
8730w
8740w
8760w
8770w

My bet is on 8790w and the following generation will get a whole new naming scheme.

In terms of a new body, I think they are due, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them stick to the same body for one more generation. The EliteBook lineup is expanding so I think the marketing "geniuses" are more focused on the newer product lines.

 

I really hope the next gen has a screen res higher than 1080p.

Samsung is putting 2560 by 1440 in series 9 thirteen inch laptops, no need for elitebooks to stick to 1080p

 

So, I'm soon to be a 8770w owner, currently an 8740w owner, delt with a a horrible tech that HP sent over, damaged the 8740 a few different ways, and didn't even solve the problem. After a week and half of dealing with horrible customer service from my "Case Manager" I got to talk to his department manager, and finally got things *mostly* worked out. They are sending me an 8770w, with the i7 3820QM and the Quadro k4000m. What sort of performance can I expect out of that? I know it is going to vastly better then the i5 560m and Firepro m7820 in my 8470. But I'm curious as to how much better?

I am also contemplating just selling it right after I get it. Since apparently it was a custom machine, that goes for $4300. But, of course, it depends on a few things, such as performance.

 

The K4000M is pretty powerful. Notebookcheck ranks GPUs pretty much by gaming performance, but the K4000M just beats out the GTX 675M. Does that give you some perspective?

I'd say sell it if you can make due with the 8740w and wait for the next generation to come out (very late summer or fall???) It won't be hard for the next gen i7s to match or beat the 3820qm.

The GPU is tough to judge. Quadro cards are very expensive and it seems like Firepro works fine for you needs. But HP abandoned the "high-end" Firepro having offered the 15" class Firepro in both the 8760w and 8770w. Meanwhile, Dell has been the only customer for the 17" class Firepro, but this generation's Firepro (M6000) is slightly weaker than the previous gen (M8900). So I seriously doubt the next Firepro card will beat the K4000M, and if it comes close, you'd need to buy a Dell to get it. On the other hand, I'd personalty be willing to trade down the GPU a little bit if it meant I could then afford a DreamColor screen (or Dell's IPS screen).

 

Well, I am having to send the 8470 back to HP. I was wondering how much performance can I expect from the combination of the cpu and gpu? But if I sell it, I'm just going to go back to using a desktop, and build a new one of those. I'm finding a laptop is used more at my house then anywhere else, so it is pretty much, unnecessary for me. Especially when a desktop would be able to be built for under $1500, that will vastly out perform the 8770. To me, the hard part will probably be finding a willing buyer.

 

Oh, of course, you need to trade in the defective unit...I should have known that from own experiences. I agree that you can build a gaming desktop with much more power than the 8770w and even the next model. And if you never move your laptop, why not?

Do keep in mind that when they say it is a $4,300 laptop, they are lying through their teeth. Discounts are given just by asking, I think recently the rate is about 25%. So your $4,300 laptop could be bought directly from HP for $3,225 (~$3,460 after sales tax). So you should expect to get less than that even from a motivated buyer.

You are correct in worrying about finding a buyer who is willing to pay for the K4000M. As far I can see, HP did not make a single pre-config unit using that GPU (in the US anyway). So it is not terribly popular. I think most people who need CUDA, either settle for K3000M or splurge for the K5000M. It's hard to see the K4000M as a true middle-road option when they charge $1,300 for it. Anyway, you should post it here and on [H]ard Forum. But I'm guessing something this specialized would do better on eBay.

Still, you are going to make out like a bandit. Your 8740w must have been around $1,500. If you get $3,000, after 3 years of using the 8740w, HP would be returning your money with interest at an annualized rate of ~26%, making the 8740w a very impressive investment!

 

My 8740 was $1800 thank you very much, lol, and I only had it for 2 years, I still have a year left on my warrenty. >.<

Well, I do believe the $4300 is including the discount, lol. Considering they were selling a referb almost exact same hardware, for $2500, I think I could pitch it out for $3k. I'll be posting it around places. I just glad, I finally got some work, temp work so far, but it brings in a bit of cash, lol.

But, we'll see how it goes. The only thing I liked about having a high end laptop, was the performance on the go, granted I would have to plug it in for any extended use anyways, but still, was nice to have on the go. I may build a mATX again, like my last desktop (which is actually sitting in a full tower case now, lol).

 

It's hard to remember pricing from back then, sorry. But even though you paid more than I thought, reducing your time to 2 years compensates and increases your ROI! Turning $1,800 into $3,000 in just 2 years takes ~29%. So you're doing even better than I thought!

Good luck on the sale, and good luck getting more permanent work. I'm curious what you do, you can PM if you prefer not to make it public.

 

Yeah, tell me about the crappy HP techs. They've been out literally ten times to fix various and sundry problems with my 8740w. Now the bottom 2/3rds of the display is flickering off and on.

Well that is enough. I called Support and told them I want a refund. They've offered me two different refurb 8770's, but each would be a downgrade in options/ speed/ display from what I have now. They basically said 'take it or leave it' and I replied that in that case a refund is the only acceptable resolution. I gave them until tomorrow close-of-business to respond. If no, then it's Small Claims Court Friday.

It seems that the 8770w is more reliable than the 8740w and I wouldn't mind an 8770, but will not accept downgrades from what I've paid for. The new screens are only 1600x1080 and mine is 1600x1200 so that can't be fixed. I would accept DreamColor in lieu. But I suspect they will be intransigent. So be it. Let them spend $6,000 on lawyers.

If we do come to terms, I too may sell the new one. Trouble is I don't trust Dell, and it doesn't seem that Lenovo has anything comparable. Laptops are the only way to go AFAIC, and I want only top-of-the-line.

 

I've had a horrible HP tech experience as well so I feel your pain! Sh*t often happens with these third-party contractor techs whichever manufacturer you choose; they don't seem to have any particular on-site tech division for business-class notebooks (every tech who I've seen come to repair these units is seeing them for the first time) . The real brand support comes from whether HP/Dell whoever is willing to cough up for the mistakes of the contractors they've hired. In my case, after a letter and some tense phone conversations, I fortunately managed to get a refund from HP (to their credit).

It's not fair for them to offer you a downgrade (WUXGA DC2 to WSXGA TN - dafuq?) given your situation. I hope you get your problems resolved. As for the 8770W being more reliable than the 8740W, who knows, they're both great .

 

Well their final answer was downgrading me with a refurb machine and fewer options. So last Thu I filed suit. Didn't see any other option. It is unfair that I should have to forego options that I have paid for, and accept a refurb machine, because they can not manage to fix the laptop.

For the record, all the techs working on my machine (for the TEN onsite service calls) were HP employees. I left them alone, but noticed in each case that they had a laptop off to the side with instructions for disassembly pulled up, which they had to refer to at practically every step.

It's not their fault. It's how little HP pays for the job, and how little they are trained.

So it is time for HP to fix this problem, and I don't care how much it costs them.

 

Good luck and let us now how it goes.

I assume you read the warrenty and saw that it allows replcment with refurbished units, right? So the only issue (leagally) is the performance. You are comparing 2010 computer parts to 2012 computer parts. Any quad core in 8770 should be an upgrade in performance (I think...not 100% about the 940xm). For GPU, the K3000M outperforms the 5000M and even the Firepro M4000 is just a touch less powerful (though you can easily make an argument for CUDA). So the screen is the only real case of downgrade. Note however your numbers are wrong. You have 1920x1200 and they want to replace it with 1920x1080 becuase of course they don't make anything higher. That is a loss of 10% in resolution.

EDIT: Oh, the other thing you should check for is lemon laws. 10 service attempts seams excessive, you should have been offered a replacement before now.

 

Thing is knight427, the refurb unit with Dreamcolor had only a dual-core, and the refurb with a quad-core did not have DreamColor. Aside from those, the only other refurb I was offered was another dual-core -without- DreamColor. Furthermore, the refurb with Dreamcolor and dual-core had only the ATI graphics card in it; I can't do with that because alot of my work requires hardware decoding of H.264. Oh and true about the screen rez.

I paid for the features in the bad machine and I don't care what HP's problems are. I want something at least roughly equivalent to what I have, or a full refund.

I paid top dollar for this machine and for three year onsite warranty support, and what I got was an unreliable machine and incompetent support. If they do not happen to have an equivalent refurb machine, well then they owe me a refund, or build me one. They declined this and so I have to enforce the warranty. As I say, I am -not- concerned with their problems.

Yes we have good lemon laws in WA, but with all the government cutbacks that's practically ineffective these days. HP opted for a lawsuit, so they got one.

(BTW why is there a button on your neck?)

 

Well, I looked it up and even the dual cores (Intel Core i5-3320M @ 2.60GHz and above) beat the 920xm. BUT, a dual core only offers 2 ram slots with 16GB max ram supported. So they really do need to give you a quad core otherwise they are substantially hindering your system performance (potential). So don't argue CPU specs, the ram issue is the winner there. For GPU, CUDA wins you the K3000M. For screen, I think most people would concede that 1920x1080 (non DC) is a reasonable replacement for you nonDC 1920x1200 screen. I'd say a DC upgrade would be nice favor.

IMHO, any quad core with K3000M and non-DC FullHD screen is what HP should replace it with at minimum. Extras are always nice when dealing with so much wasted time, but the terms of the warranty do not include pain, suffering or lost productivity. You are bringing this to a legal resolution, so keep that in mind. What we agree is "right" has nothing to do with anything at this point. It's all about how the judge reads the warranty.

Also, lemon laws have nothing to do with government cutbacks. If your state legislature passed a lemon law covering laptops, then you should get well versed with it for your trial.

Finally, I do not have a button on my neck. It is a shot from an upcoming movie based on one of my favorite novels.

 

Performance aside, there is not going to be a dual for a quad. And there is not going to be non-VDPAU for VDPAU. And there is not going to be a smaller screen without DC. There is probably going to be a full refund, and there may be treble damages depending on whether the judge determines ill intent.

Most people use lemon laws when appealing to the state atty general or the FTC, etc, IOW a non-judicial route that frightened people tend to take. But we can no longer count on any sort of consumer protections these days. Ironically those Rightists who scream for less government, have no idea that the government brought us the roads they drive on, traffic safety, water, sewer, consumer protection, building safety, and so may things they take for granted but soon will lose. Fine I say. Let them reap what they sow. I can take care of myself, although most can't. Let them make the most regressive Thunderdome they can stand.

I've been through this sort of thing many times, and I am just resigned that it is my role to play Bad Cop so that the way is smoothed for others who follow. Fine, it has to be me again who beats their a55 to make them live up to our agreement.

 

I've never been through this before, but I assume the judge will want to hear from you why HP's offered replacements are not sufficient. I'd suggest that you compile the relevant information (as much directly from Intel, Nvidia etc) as possible to show how their replacements are objectively inferior. You certainly don't want to count on the judge to be up on computer specs especially when the other side will be doing their best to convince him you are acting unreasonably.

 

I was just given an 8770w for a workstation. Has anyone found a way to fix the squeak in the spacebar yet (other than using an external keyboard?)

--kC

 

I got the 8770w that comes with m-sata flash cache and just see that if I start the laptop when its off
it boots very fast to windows. But if I restart it then it takes much longer! what is your experience with
the flash cache? it dose not seem to boost boot speed a lot btw!

 

I have expected to buy HP Elitebook 8770w, but the Seller have two adapter: 200W HP Slim Smart AC Adapter and 230W HP Slim Smart AC Adapter. Which adapter will I choose ? Is that 230W HP Slim Smart AC Adapter using with 8770W which has DreamColor :hi2:?
This is configuration of my 8770W: i7 3840QM, RAM 32 GB, SSD 180GB Intel, Quadro K5000M, FullHD (non-DreamColor ), Intel Ultimate N-6300.

 

Maybe you can configure your 8770w on the HP web site and see what AC Adapter is suggested.

 

Problem identified in case it happens to someone else! If in bios you disable the modem then this
problem will happen. Every time you will restart your laptop it will take long time on bios screen!
Probably a bug that I hope will be fixed!

 

Hello All, just signed up. Picked up a 8770w this week. Can't wait for it to get here. i7, Dreamcolor display should be quite good in Photoshop CS6.

Also, there is a 20% coupon available right now, CTO8770w for the 8770w. I went the configurable route, which allowed me to use that coupon. To find the deal, go to google and type in "HP 8770w configurable" and you'll find the coupon and setup there.

 

Please spoil us with pictures and impressions. If you dare take photos under the hood, then it's even better...

And congratulations!

 

Well it's currently stuck in Anchorage, AK. Stuck in customs...

 

Does anyone know if the latest 8770w bios (F40) has by any chance disabled the "fan on AC" option or changed the fan tables? My fan no longer goes quiet... (I updated from the old F06).

 

Fan on AC is an option in BIOS which you can choose to disable. I believe this option has been exist since F.06 or maybe earlier version.

 

Yes, I know, but with F40 the fan always spins, no matter if I disable (or enable) the 'Fan always on' option...

 

The way I understand how this function works is:
Fan is always on, just matter of low or high speed.

So if the user disable the function, fan will on high speed only if the CPU / GPU need cooling.
My suggestion is to bring your 8770w to a cool location, somewhere 24 C to check if the fan is on of off.

 

hopefully by next week sometime, i should have myself a 8770w, but i have a question.

I am getting the 500gb + 128gb(msata) ssd version, does anybody know how HP configures the 128gb ssd along with the 500gb? meaning is the 128gb ssd still just a cache drive, or does HP install the OS on the 128gb ssd itself? just curious what to expect once i receive it.

Thanks

 

Has anyone tried the 8770w with a slim efficient adapter? Something like this: Cooler Master: Support

I wonder whether it charges correctly, not if it works at full speed...

Also whether it can operate with basic apps (Office and such) and charge simultaneously...

 

128GB SSD is the main drive with OS, and 500GB HDD is the data or whatever propose you plan to use it with.

 

8770w needs at least 150W power adapter, AFAIK, there is no 3rd party power adapter can pump out such high watts.

 

thanks for the heads up

i get my 8770w on Monday, and man i can't wait.

 

I will disagree here. I use a 90W slim HP PS with mine all the time. no problems with it at all and it charges it fine. Maybe i have the energy star model, but i can tell you it does not complain.

 

received my laptop yesterday, and to my surprise it has a 2.5" 128gb ssd instead of the 128gb msata.

So far this laptop is a BEAST, i love it.

 

Maybe then the slimmer and lighter Dell 150W adapter?

 

Well, to answer myself: I tried the Dell adapter and the notebook reports a HP Smart Adapter not functioning correctly. It does not even power the dock...

 

Forgot to report I installed bios F41 a week or so ago. No difference to F40 (but no previous problems either).

 

Well, F42's out but this thread is dead anyway. I half bought the 8770w due to the wonderful 8740w threads and hoping for the same...

 

Is the msata ssd 128g the main driver with OS?

Boot options have msata ssd ?