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very cheap msata 64GB ssd: ebay item 190789302019

 

Thanks for all your great info so far.

Could someone please post a photo of a mSATA SSD and the mSATA-ZIF adapter configured in the 2510p? I have the feeling that it doesn't fit and I would like to be proven wrong

 

Sorry, won't open it now, but I assure you it fits very well. You even have to put some sponge or plastic below and above it, to avoid rattling inside the 1.8" bay.
Just check the dimensions of the adapter on ebay and you'll see it fits without any problem

 

i did not add sponges or plastics, I simply put it in an small antistatic bag, does not rattle at all.

 

I don't think that's really a good idea, to put an antistatic bag on functioning electronics. You might want to read here:
Antistatic Bags & Conductive Bags
Some antistatic bags are electrically conductive, so you might create a short on your mSATA drive somewhere...

 

ouch, did not know that. thanks for the hint.

 

Hi
Upgrade to msata SSD not gone well for me.
I bought as 32GB crucial m4 msata card and an adapter here ( 50mm New 1.8" CE/ZIF PATA SSD convert Adapter for PCI-E MSATA SSD 3.3V | eBay) and when I powered everything up got smoke coming out.
Looks like the adapter is gone

Anyone seen this before and any known causes?
Thanks

 

I'm sorry, man ! Something's gone terribly wrong there. Did you connect the ZIF cable firmly in place ?
It surely looks like the adapter is gone. Try to ask for a refund/replacement from the seller ! Before you get another one, can you first test the mSATA SSD in another PC? Maybe with a mSATA to SATA adapter, in case you can't find a mSATA slot ? If not, I can test it for you (PM me if you think the postal services back and forth are worth it...).

I have the 128 GB flavor of the Crucial M4 (Micron C400) and everything works smooth here, without any problems.

Another question: how did you go about isolating the adapter+SSD from the interior of the laptop ? Remember that there are several metallic regions in the 1.8" bay capable of electrically shorting out the adapter. You should wrap up the board in some sort of electrically insulating material. I personally use 2 thin sponge sheets (1-2 mm in thickness), above and below the adapter+SSD. You can also use some simple plastic (cut it from some plastic lid), but make sure the whole thing won't rattle inside the laptop (and not overly tight either).

Keep us informed !
PS: I see you have the good SSD firmware, 000F. Do not attempt to update it to 01MG or 04MH. You'll get blue screens and other issues. Stay with 000F.
PS2: I'd buy from this seller here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-cable...t=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item416ec7e9bd

 

exactly two of New cable Adapter f Sandisk PCI-E MSATA 50MM 3.3V SSD to 1.8" CE/ZIF PATA 40pin | eBay I have, both working flawless.
make a counteroffer with 13.50$, he accelted mine with this value so I assume he will also accept yours.

If you want to try to fix we can look which electrical parts are burned and you can try to resolder, but I am not sure if this adapter will work ever again.

>>>Cyber

 

thanks guys. I've ordered a new one as suggested.
As soon as it arrived I'll let you know how I get on :thumbsup:

 

while I'm waiting, can anyone with a similar setup in their 2510p i.e. mSata and adapter take a photo to confirm I will connect in the correct way?

 

you're not the first one asking for this ! I'll take some photos for you soon...

 

Thanks for the offer. Did you manage to get any pics?

 

Hi,

I have a 2510p laptop who's hard drive is dead and i'm finding it hard to get a replacement (i'm in UK). I've seen that you can get an optical bay caddy to put an SSD in so think that's what i'll do. But again I'm finding it hard to source such a caddy for this laptop in UK.

Any ideas?

 

ok, new adapter arrived today. Anyone whos got one can they advise if the zif connector is connected such that the underneath of the adapter board is visible or the upper part i.e. msata visible?

 

DonnieH, I'm sorry to inform you that I still haven't been able to take some pictures. I don't have access to my 2510p for some time now...
When you open the 1.8" bay, you should see the mSATA drive on top of the adapter electronics. The flat part of the adapter (without electronics) should face the bottom of the bay.

So if you take a transversal section of the whole system, the order is the following (from bottom to top):
1. laptop motherboard
2. insulation (sponge or plastic sheet (you should add this !)
3. adapter PCB board
4. adapter electronics (inlcuding JM20330 chip)
5. mSATA SSD with 2 screws
6. insulation (especially here !!!, you should add this ! Similar to #2)
7. 1.8" bay cover with 1 screw.

 

thanks Kryptex for the info. Will try later today.

 

Please, any of you have used a Toshiba MK8010GAH in the 2510p? I thought about buying this drive, but since some models don't work correctly, I thought about asking first.

By the way, I would love to go for a SSD, but even a 32GB mSATA + adapter would cost more than the MK8010GAH, based on my searches at eBay. Since I'm in Brazil, that limits my options a lot, many sellers don't ship here, but if any of you know about sellers with good prices for a SSD solution, that would be great! 32GB is enough for me.

Thanks a lot,

Eduardo

 

thanks for all your help.
Got Win7 Pro installed on the ssd. How do you think these figures compare...

 

Great numbers there for a 32 GB drive ! So it seems that the previous ZIF-mSATA adapter was broken from the get-go ? Or did you do something else with the new adapter ?

PS: and please stay on firmware 000F, don't even think about moving to 04MH. I had a lot of troubles on a regular 2.5" Crucial M4 with going from 000F to 01MG and then 04MH.

 

thanks for that. Looks like the original adapter was broken from the word go and I replaced it with another. I'll stay on 000F as advised. Thanks agin

 

yesterday i fixed the msata adapters with hot glue into the laptop.
only onto the case on the left side (I glued exactly below the PCIe connector of the msata adapter onto the small base of the laptop case), not on the mainboard. on the mainboard side of the adapters I made two flat points with hot glue to prevent banging the hard adapter to the mainboard.

2510p:


nc2400:

 

Great pics, _Cyber_ !!!
What kind of hot glue did you use ? I have never used that stuff before....

 

Is this file and the other modded BIOS files still accessible anywhere? The Mediafire link reports: This file is currently set to private. The file is 2510P-F10-SP52914-SLIC21-nowhitelist-dualIDA-fan40pct.rar This is referenced in post #461 - Modified HP 2510P BIOS

I've recently inherited a 2510p and I'd like to give this a try.

Thank you.

 

Hot-melt adhesive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I used normal household ware, nothing specil. in general i like hot glue, it's a bit elastic after cooling down, it's normally very strong (of course depends of underground) and if I want it is normally completely removeable.

 

hi guys,i hope you can help me...i recently replaced the motherboard in my 2510p,everything is back where it should be but i get a problem when i try to install windows,its not recognising my hard drive,i have bought a new drive and get the same problem,the guy who sold me the mb said it might need the bios flashing which i was looking into doing,thing is in the meantime a"friend" messed about with the bios settings and now the screen doesnt come on when i boot up the machine,he cant remember what he did and i cant remember the sequence to set defaults blind,i would really appreciate some advice or a solution to my problems,thanks in advance

 

got past this problem now but it still doesnt recognise the hard drive,i'm at the end of what i know so i need your help plz, thanks

 

maybe the ZIF connector between mainboard and HDD is dead?

 

i have tried a new connector,it was the first thing i did (was hoping it would be the cheaper option lol) but it did nothing.could it be a bios problem,the guy who sold me the laptop said that could be the problem and that he had only tested it as far as booting to bios and not with a hard drive.thanks

 

in bios you cannot set up things like this.
is the DVD recognized? if so I think the mainboard is damaged.

 

Try to boot a Windows Live CD with AIDA or Everest on a USB stick. Run AIDA from Windows Live and check if you have any IDE controllers and if there is anything missing or wrong with the mobo hardware....

 

I don't know if this will help, but what is your HD model? Some 1.8" hard drive models are specific for iPods, and notebooks have trouble detecting them...

 

thanks guys,i'll give the live cd a try,the hard drive that was originaly attached to the old motherboard seems to be fine when i plug it into my pc with a zif to usb lead and yes the dvd drive does work,it does the initial load up to instal windows but says there is no hard drive to instal it onto...i will be back in touch when i'v tried the live disc and see where i'm at,thanks again :thumbsup:

ps the hd connect with a ZIF ribbon that i have replaced also,get the same result with both hard drives and both ZIF connectors after trying them with each other

 

Well, in the worst case scenario (HDD interface dead in the mobo) at least you could use a 2.5" hard drive caddy in DVD drive bay, since your DVD interface is ok.

 

hey guys,i managed to get the live cd and i have AIDA on a usb stick like you said KrypteX,is there a particular thing i should be running? i'v never used it before so i'm not sure what to do once i have the program open,thanks

 

In AIDA go to Computer -> Summary -> Storage and check what kind of IDE controllers are there. Report back.

 

hi,it only says the usb flash drive that i'm running aida from,it has no others,also its saying the bios is unknown if thats any help to you.thanks

 

What version of AIDA64 do you have ? Please use 2.80 or later (and not trial version, if possible). If there are still no IDE controllers, that's very strange. At least the one which serves the DVD should be there.

 

Please, I have some questions regarding the BIOS:

1) how do I open and remove the BIOS chip on the HP 2510p? I know the chip is a SMD SOIC-8 integrated circuit, but it's inside a strange connector in the 1.8" bay. I have no idea where to pull or push the connector to release the chip.

2) I read an emergency BIOS recovery can only be performed with a floppy drive connected to a USB port. Is that true?? Can't I just use a common USB pendrive?

3) What is the most up to date and stable ROM currently available for the 2510p? One without the white list restrictions would be better!

Sorry if questions 2 and 3 are already answered in other posts, but the posts are quite old, and I would like to confirm if the same solutions are still the best ones now in 2013.

Thanks a lot!

 

Hello Guys
Can someone give me a eBay-Link for a HDD Caddy with a Marvell chipset
Thanks, Ruddi

 

New Universal 9 5mm PATA IDE to 2nd SATA HDD Hard Drive Disk Caddy Module | eBay

Topda or Fenvi in metal is the one you should get. I got a Topda caddy in plastic, not good... it's loose and I get BSOD sometimes because the disk looses connectivity.
Both Topda and Fenvi are Marvell.

 

Hello,

I bought a New Slim 9.5mm SATA 2nd HDD Hard Drive Caddy for HP Compaq MultiBay 2510p nc2400
I've tried to boot on the hard drive (in the caddy) but it doesn't work: it's impossible to see the hardrive. I've formated the 2.3 disk drive but nothing works...

 

elcontador, that's a Sunplus-based caddy. You should take out the 1.8" HDD and only have the caddy+2.5" HDD in it, then try to boot.

 

p0intman, could you give us more info on the plastic vs. metal caddies ? What are you referring to when saying "metal" ?
Can you give us a link to a "metal" version of the caddy ?

I mean, we talked here a lot about caddies, but there is no clear-cut, good-quality, Marvell-based link on ebay that I know of. It's a hit-or-miss situation...
Any help would (especially with pictures/photos and links) would be welcomed !

 

I have this one - 2nd Hard Drive/ Optical Bay Caddy for HP Compaq 2510p & nc2400 [HP-2BAY-2510p] - $42.00 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

But I can't seem to install Windows to the drive in this bay adapter. Windows Setup just says no drives were found. This is to replace (rather than an additional drive) the original ZIF drive which is busted on mine and I can't find a supplier who can get a replacement. It boots from it just fine though.

 

The newmodeus caddies are Sunplus-based and do not work very well. For example, the Sunplus chip doesn't handle the TRIM command sent by Win 7 to an SSD mounted in the caddy... It usually gives BSOD or just freezes.
And being only a Sunplus-based caddy, it's rather expensive....

 

I've done that and nothing work. I've taked out the 1.8, put my momentus 2.5 Sata in the caddy but the system don't recognize it. I've installed W7 through USB Stick and Windows Setup just says no drives were found.

 

elcontador,
There are 2 points I'd like to make/ask:
1. Which BIOS version do you have ? Did you try to load factory defaults ? Can you see the Seagate Momentus drive in the BIOS boot menu ?
2. Does the system see the DVD drive instead of the caddy ? If so, then your DVD IDE port on the motherboard works ok and the caddy might be faulty.

 

There are two different version of the Topda caddy, one is made completely in metal with a metal frame and the other one is made with a plastic frame and two thin metal covers. The disk can be secured with screws in the one made in metal, and the caddy can be secured to the chassie of the 2510p. You can not do any of that with the plastic one...

Topda in metal:


eBay link: New Universal 9 5mm PATA IDE to 2nd SATA HDD Hard Drive Disk Caddy Module | eBay

Fenvi in metal:


eBay link: 9 5mm PATA IDE to SATA 2nd HDD Hard Drive Caddy DV23 | eBay

Topda in plastic (not recommended!):


eBay link: New PATA IDE to SATA 2nd HDD Caddy Universal 9 5mm CD DVD ROM Optical Bay 4A | eBay


I am almost 100% certain that all Topda and Fenvi caddies are using the Marvell chip. But don't take it to the bank, because these China sweatshops can change internal parts whenever they like, or so it seems.

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

1/ which bios? i don't know but i've never made update on this. I'll chekc and put the information here
2/ Yes the system see the dvd drive instead the caddy. If my caddies are faulty i'll be very angry: i've ordered 3 of them