M6600 and M4600 are coming in Feb.

Thanks for the links, but not really relevant for what they're used for eg. MCAD, DCC.

Wasn't just nvidia pointing the finger at MS over Vista, I was under the impression it was common knowledge MS wanted to run openGL layered on their own API, mucked around changing their mind and ended up with the poor performance in Vista that's carried over to a lesser extend in windows 7, go and read the original white papers on the requirements for vendors to comply with vista, naff all about performance, stability with "others" API's, a lot about complying with Microsofts DRM wishes.I'd bet money Microsoft had grand illusions of pimping their Direct X API to the CAD software vendors, who mostly [autodesk is the big exception] stayed with openGL.

Yes, Nvidia is the big bully, ATI, the forum nerds hero, maybe their fireGL/PRO software and support has improved in the last 5 years or so, but I'm not going to forget how much money they cost me with their buggy drivers with no fixes forthcoming, people on this forum go on about ATI Firepro's like they're the ultimate thing to use because it possibly scores more in 3dmark than the equivalent nvidia, like you said, you can only BS professionals for so long, and was the reason why I was pointing out that ATI probably isn't as highly thought of as their 3dmark scores are here, illustrated by the fact, the majority of professionals choose nvidia.

What happens in the consumer market is irrelevant to these notebooks and this thread, don't know why you bought that up.

 

When people bring up Nvidia as better, you call them fanboyism. The fact is, Nvidia is really better in the Pro Apps segment. That's fact, not some unsubstantiated feeling towards Nvidia. Frankly, who cares what their names are. Sure, Nvidia messes up with the flawed GPU case. So what? It's not like ATI/AMD never messed up before. While they never had a flawed GPU problem like Nvidia did, there were times when ATI didn't bother with proper driver. That's as bad as what Nvidia did, because the end result in both cases is the product is useless and unusable.

The fact is, ATI/AMD has never been good in the pro apps market. YOU don't use the product, never needed the speed and support, so you don't feel it. Imagine trying to get your drawing done for a client and the software takes forever to render, or worse yet trying to get the hardware to work with a pro apps that the client want to use but not compatible with the hardware.

All you do is play games, which is fine, go and play with your game. Who give a crap. But don't start twisting facts and call Nvidia graphics user fanboy. There's a reason people appreciate their work.

Just like people appreciate Intel's work, even though they played dirty with AMD a few years back.

 

At Google Translate
2 of the screen are "glare" and 1 multi-touch. I've seen a "non-glare" touch screen on a Latitude and the *non*-glare description is simply not true -- it's very close to standard glossy screens. Or is something lost in the translation?

I would have thought that these machines would have been offered with mostly "non-glare" options. What's with laptops? Traditional monitors don't reflect back at you, but I guess most people want their laptops to be unusable outdoors? I just don't get it.

 

It is because of costs. The glossy screen is cheaper to built than the matte. Then, manufactures are selling them not as a problem, but as a benefit, because of a bullsh*t speak.

 

Actually it's relevant since I was correcting someone for stating a class 2 gpu is faster than a class 1 until people turn this into an ATI/AMD vs Nvidia thread. Really though, no point in arguing which is better because we have the option to get either one. Get whatever you think is best for you.

 

I don't speak Chinese. You would not cite a Google translation if you spoke Chinese. My guess is that "glare"' is a busted translation. Seriously - why the hell would Dell highlight their glare screen? Come on, you know its Anti Glare. You're just bored like everyone else waiting for the new M's.

 

Just checked the french canadian page :

Station de travail mobile Dell PrecisionM6600 | Dell Canada

It's anti-glare.

 

Many thanks, Common sense prevails. I know, we are all waiting for details and for some of us we are saving end of year budget money till the very last day. No offense to the those who had Google translate Chinese, but come on, you know that it will be wrong.

 

One is a non professional GPU and one is, class doesn't mean anything to the comparison because one has openGL extensions that the other doesn't and therefore doesn't have the same capability, no matter what the basic chip horsepower difference is.
A good example is my M65 with it's 64bit FX350m being able to outperform a XPS 1730 with dual 8800GTX in Solidworks, you just cannot compare the two, with the direct X API you can because they both support the same thing, but not openGL....and that's comparing class1 GPU [2 of] to a class 4

Yep, I'm a fanboy because I don't like what some silly pubescent gamer kid on the internet wants me to

I dunno, maybe get mother to make you a hot chocolate and tuck you into bed or something.

 

He brought up a fact, ATI doesn't have support for a lot of Pro Apps vs Nvidia. Which part of no software support don't you get? What's the point of having good hardware if you don't have the software to run it? What's so hard to understand that? Where's the fanboyism? Or are you saying you can't read?

In fact you're the one sounding like a fanboy. Is it a fact that ATI have very good or better hardware than Nvidia in certain segment like gaming? Sure. Do you see any Nvidia user defending or saying otherwise? Nope. Is it a fact that ATI have inferior support for Pro Apps? Sure. Do you see ATI user whining that ATI's still better? I'm seeing one right now.