New M4500 Discussion Thread

You can't get the HP out of it though....

 

does the HP's offer the trackpoint red button? and out of the 3 companies which company gives you the most for your money? any special coupon codes out there for any of these?

 

Depends where you live - in Canada, Lenovo tends to be cheapest, then Dell, then HP. IMO, the prices reflect the quality and components. HP Elitebooks have been the toughest and has nice features such as the Dura coating on their keyboards. Last generation (M4400, 8530w, W500), I tended to prefer Dell, but this generation, HP has really stepped up and offered top notch components (especially in their 8740w line with IPS panel and FirePro M7740).

 

I'd take a lot of convincing to trust ATI with SW again, purely from a stability and bug point of view, those guys taught me the value in saving every few changes and how useful and slow software openGL mode can be when your ATI drivers suck.
Having said that, I'm a few releases behind squale....however, crappy drivers are crappy drivers which ever way you look at it, and have no place in enterprise, which is why they only have 10% of the professional GPU market share.....purely in my opinion of course.
Don't think I would bother choosing the GDDR3 FX1800 in the dell, at least until I'm convinced it's extra processors aren't wasted by lack of memory bandwidth, which will surprise me if it's not, so it would be FX1800m on the HP...no ATI, no way...never

cryptic message from our local cryptic man....go on then Z tell us what you mean

All three have trackpoint, Dell hasn't even said when the M4500 will be available, HP and Lenovo keep delaying their delivery dates, your guess is as good as anybodys as far as when you can get anything..
The pricing on the HP looks pretty good where I live [NZ], and dell need to reduce their prices [going by what they're still charging for the M4400 comparatively]
Prices will vary by region, you will have to do the pricing comparison...if your in the US, lucky you.

My preference leans toward the HP out of the three for the first time in a lot of years [because of GDDR5 FX, USB 3.0 and RAID support] although I want to see user comments about the heat and fan noise first because the shared cooling pipe configuration doesn't look that great to me.

I'm still sulking over the loss of 16:10 aspect anyway, so am not in any hurry and will wait to see how others go with various configurations and models

 

I'm concerned that the 16:9 is going to be a big problem in Solidworks..

are all three, the dell, lenovo and hp all now 16:9?

that stinks!.... I want 16:10 just like my Lenovo T61p has

 

I guess we'll just have to learn to like having all the tool palettes on the sides, tis a pity whats added on the sides doesn't make up for what's lost in height, total screen area wise, I agree, it sucks, but what can you do apart from either buying the M6500 or going back to desktops.

Yep, all three are 16:9

 

There is also the CELSIUS H700 workstation by Fujitsu, also with a 16/9 display.

DATASHEET: http://docs.ts.fujitsu.com/dl.aspx?id=93eae402-020c-47d7-b8c6-1b05894e4e40

 

So you compare two grafic cards which noone tested in reality, trustful suggestion

Rumor has it that the FirePro M5800 won't be a high end solution but be a low end alternative for the quadro fxs.

 

That has to be the worst option of them all really. The spec sheet is very unimpressive and the type of screen isn't even mentioned.
When i bought the M4400 i was also looking at the previous 15,4" Celsius version but i don't even know if it was ever released. The only info i could find back then was the same type of spec sheet you have but no info anywhere else. I'd stay away from obscure laptops like this. I know Siemens and Fujitsu are big brands in their own right but their combo in computers doesn't seem to cut it.

 

Just for what it's worth (likely not much), I chatted online with a member of the precision sales team, they were able to offer me no available date for the m4500 nor even a ballpark.