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E6410 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by dezoris, Apr 12, 2010.

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  1. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    Thanks for the responses, I indeed have the Intel integrated version of the E6410 yet it still have a 3 seconds delay before the BIOS logo kicks in. I already set it to Minimal boot and removed the external devices from the system but didn't see any difference on this.

    While not a serious problem as the machine works fine, i'm just surprised it's not as snappy. I used previous Dell systems such as the Latitude XT2 and it boots very quickly so I assumed it would be the same for the Latitude E6410 coming from the same business line.
     
  2. 20LEGEND

    20LEGEND Notebook Guru

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    Newer version just released. Rev 260.89.

    I'm trying to play Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 on my PC - it installed perfectly and everything, and I'm running the newest drivers but when I double click the game exe it just won't start. Any idea what's wrong?
     
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    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Define.. wont' start? Do you get an error? does your screen flash black and comes back? something else occurs, if so what?
     
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    Nope, it does nothing. A timer shows up next to my cursor (the process starts in task manager), but then disappears (as does the process). Nothing happens!
     
  5. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    I only had the E6410 for a few days and was shocked at the CPU temperatures. I was doing some word documents, website browsing and running a song with YouTube (not HD) in the background and my CPU temperatures were hovering around 62-65c according to Everest. I know the Core i5 is hotter than the Core 2 Duo but something didn't add up, I only had the system for 3 days and I don’t feel I did anything intensive! I dare not to think of it if I tried to do some serious number crunching at the time!

    So I took it apart and found the thermal paste stock paste all hardened up and crusted away which surprised me considering the system is not that old. So I cleaned it up (had to chisel away the old gunk on the CPU with Isopropyl alcohol and Q-tips), applied some fresh paste with Arctic Cooling MX-3 (masking tape was very useful around the cores otherwise what a mess!) and afterwards with the same tasks running, the temperatures are now in the low to mid 50s.

    Just wondering what the CPU temperatures you guys have with the E6410s on average? Try to find some info on this but had difficult trying to browse the thread with 175 pages!
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    My E6410's i5-540M is in the 30C to 45C range under light usage (and one core is 5 to 10C hotter than the other). However, the computer is docked and I think the BIOS automatically increases the fan speed which is currently around 3250rpm according to HWiNFO32. I have the Intel graphics. Which GPU do you have?

    I suggest that you use HWiNFO32 to see the fan speed (it is in the sensors section). Does the fan (i) keep the temperatures manageable (say not more than 80C) when under load and (ii) keep the chassis temperatures acceptable when idle? There's nothing wrong with a 55C CPU temperature if the fan is running slowly and the chassis is keeping cool.

    I have just done a quick check on my fan operation and the fan speed increases to 4300rpm when one of the CPU cores reaches 80C and only returns to 3250rpm when both of the cores drop below 40C.

    John
     
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    jcthorne Notebook Geek

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    Just had to brag a bit.. bought my wife a new laptop with the help of our company dell rep and 25% coupon code she provided (same are posted here I have since seen).

    $487
    # Dual Core i5 Processor at 2.4Ghz
    # 4GB Memory
    # Dell 1520 Wireless
    # Bluetooth
    # Ultrasharp 14.1" 1400x900
    # Intel Expresscard Graphics
    # Webcam
    # Backlit Keyboard
    # 6 Cell
    # 3YR Standard Warranty (dont need onsite as our company has a Dell rep on site 2 days a week, on hand parts stores and overnight parts delivery)
    # Latitude Flash
    # 160GB
    # DVD/RW
    # Windows 7 Professional with media
    # Microsoft Office 2010 Professional Plus with media
    # 2nd day air shipping


    I think all that for under 5 bills is pretty darn good. May have to upgrade my E6400 at these prices.
     
  8. Jakeworld

    Jakeworld Notebook Consultant

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    As a note, if you have the dedicated GPU, temperatures will typically be notably higher than with the integrated solution. The CPU and GPU share a common cooling solution, so if one component increases in temperature, so will the other until a thermal equilibrium is established between them. The NVIDIA 3100m typically runs a bit hot in this device, averaging between 55°C to 75°C under light to medium load, which pushes the CPU to run between 45° to 70° for the same usage conditions. Note that one core runs a bit hotter than the other, so on the hotter core, I am accustomed to a temperature of at least 50°C.

    These values are well within the Tmax, and rarely exceed 95°C under extreme load conditions. However, I have seen the GPU climb to temperatures in excess of 100°C. So long as the thermal management system is working properly, which in my experience, works quite well, the components will throttle down when the temperature starts to approach critical levels. This particular computer is rather conservative with its fan usage, so higher temperatures represent a compromise for minimal noise.
     
  9. PatchySan

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    I think I have the same setup as you John, Core i5 540M and Intel Graphics (as well as being in Red!) though I don't have a dock. Everest also gives me the sensor readings of the system but I used the HWiNFO you provided me for consistency.

    However for the temperatures that's where the similarities end because under full load it's running at a constant 85c (Cores around 80c/85c), the fans are quite docile as it spins around ~2800RPM. It doesn't have the urgency to go above 3000RPM despite the temperatures which concerns me.

    On idle (after startup) the core temperatures averages around 55c/45c without fan assistance. I attached the HWInfo results so you can compare the results.
     

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    To get a better comparison, I undocked my E6410 and (after pressing Fn+Z) the fan speed speed dropped to ~2900rpm, rising to ~3250rpm when the CPU temperature went above 80C.

    However, with the CPU utilisation in the 10% to 20% range I have CPU temperatures in the 35 to 45C range. However, HWiNFO32 suggests that the CPU power consumption is less than 10W under that loading condition but you are seeing even lower CPU power consumption + higher temperature. :confused: This suggest that even though you have reapplied the thermal compound, my E6410 is better at disposing of the heat.

    John
     

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