New M6500 Discussion Thread

Hi from france (sorry for any aproximate english)

firstly, thanks to everybody for all the invaluable infos, links, secret manual links, pictures...my french dell rep is so technically poor...it makes my wait for mine (ordered 14/01 ETA 25/02) shorter even if I start being a bit impatient like YBcold...

Bokeh, keithsnell,
as now the ntsc seems like the "native profile", does this mean that it's the factory default, or is it the closest adobeRGB profile you can select in dell windows installed software ?
As I ordered mine without OS (debian GNU/linux planned), I am wondering what the screen will be without the ability to adjust settings in a "Controlpoint" windows only software (opposed to a bios/osd setting)
...even if I plan to calibrate it with apropriate tools (Gretag Macbeth/Xrite i1Display LT) and previous mentioned Argyl CMS (http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/Installing.html) wich function sure well under linux with nvidia (fx2800M ordered).
Would it be too much asking of your time, maybe to test Argyl under windows and then propagate the profiles generated under an ubuntu (debian derivated) livecd as Argyll is on the main repo (via app-instal gui or "apt-get install argyll" on the command line) ?
Or at least just evaluate the availability of selecting ntsc for the panel under the ubuntu livecd ?

Anyhow thanks again for all your shared infos.

 

Giannini,

Maybe you are interested in this....

http://www.activeplus.com/us/freeware/RunFirst

 

Bokeh,

What do you mean by this statement Otherwise, read the posts here and calibrate.
Are you referring to your failed attempts at calibrating your own M6500 Display Panel?

Bokeh, add links to the so-called solution.


I call bull Sh-- this is a smoke screen.

People have made suggestion to you on this including myself, you don’t even
comment on them. Like I tried that but it didn’t work.

 

Hi Cantine,

The "native" setting (the one without any control point software installed) seems to be the best starting point for a calibration. This would be equivalent to the "factory default" if you are installing an OS from scratch.

It would be good to profile the screen, since it is too "blue" in it's uncalibrated state. Also, you should be aware that colors will look oversaturated if you are viewing them in an application that is not color managed.

I believe Argyll has an option for calibrating to an sRGB profile, so you might want to give that a try if the colors are too saturated for your "normal" working environment.

I haven't had time to load Argyll under Windows 7 yet, and have been waiting until I have enough time to work through the installation and driver issues. From what I understand, Windows 64 bit will not accept the unsigned drivers in Argyll CMS, which means I will either have to "self sign" and run my sytem in "test"mode, or install the XP virtual mode under Windows 7 so that I can run Argyll. Either one of those options will take more time than I have available at the moment. I will soon be departing for a three week business trip, and will try to get Argyll loaded and running after my return.

I'll check back on this forum when I return, and try to make the Argyll profiles available if I am successful at getting it to run under Windows 64 bit.

 

Hi Manny,

I don't think it is fair to characterize Bokeh's calibration efforts as "failed" attempts. Some of us are perfectionists when it comes to the calibration of our displays, and we'll keep trying until we're satisfied that they are as good as they can get. There are many variables involved, including software configurations, choice of calibration hardware and software, and actual calibration settings, etc.

Continued attempts to attain perfection do not equal failure.

Not responding to many of your posts is probably a polite way of saying "thank you, but I already know that."

 

keithsnell,

If there not Failed Attempts, then point everyone to the Solution.
Everyone shell out big bucks for the M6500 to go through this Sh--
And who are you.

For all we know you are some dell fluky.

 

Solution:
1) Disable Control Point through msconfig
2) Load the profile I uploaded to the forum earlier. It's a good quality profile that will produce good results.
3) Use color managed applications to view color-critical work
4) Recognize that Windows 7 has a "bug" with respect to loosing monitor profiles when the system returns from sleep mode and ensure you have set your monitor profile as the default system profile in windows. NOTE: The instructions given in the link you referenced aren't 100% correct. It is important to recognize that Windows 7 loses many user settings when returning from sleep mode, or when logging off and back on, not just monitor profile settings. In order to ensure that it doesn't lose your monitor profile, you need to set that profile as both the user and system default profile.

That's it. There's the solution. Now you can happily use one of the best laptop displays on the market for image editing.

To really do it right, you should buy a high quality color calibrator and do the calibrations yourself. Make sure the calibrator you select has the ability to handle wide gamut displays.

Not a Dell flunky, but I'll happily teach a private class on color management to anyone that is interested in learning.

 

Thanks keithsnell, and let me wish you a pleasant business trip, and I hope at your return I would have received mine and played around with argyll so we could share results.
(sorry I don't have much knowledge with windows7 and argyll but I will be able to play with a virtualbox xp)

I've been following this thread since the beginning and bokeh/dell's adventures, so thankfully, I'm well aware of the in/outs for this wide gamut panel.
My interrogation was mainly on the ability of switching the several pre-configurated profiles bokeh was talking about - without dell software, thus if it was available in the bios or an osd like on my 2 current eizo as this will be my first move to wide gamut laptop and without knowledge on dell controlpoint software.

Thus you answered : no osd or bios, and default ntsc, thank you
now I'm quite confident of being able to manage apropriate settings with argyll & nvidia driver on debian, as it worked with my eizo : http://imagebin.ca/view/QSmLyO.html (also easily installable with an ubuntu livecd)...and not any windows7 bugs or double corrections ;-)
but maybe I'm too confident (bokeh on this ?), however it was professional enough for my past print jobs.

 

Hello all, I was away for about a week and there is a lot to read here
Finally, as I stated before, I gave up with the RGB LED as I mostly need this laptop for sRGB work and will use external CRT for photo editing. I ordered my M6500 today with a great money deal (Dell actual promotion with a -20% and -100€, it took me almost 2 weeks to get it right). I will post my calibration result and screen review for the WLED (using DTP94 and adJUST software).

 

http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/...04&~ck=mn&dgc=IR&cid=dellhp&lid=rtbn4&ref=hbn

Dang! $2800 for the laptop.