M6600 Owners Thread

I love dell as they are always moving forward with higher specs stuffs than others, with a good website and community which is much better than HP onlinestore, lenovo (check out thinkwiki for Linux modders) etc.

Infact I am waiting for the Dell XPS 13 (ultrabook). My favourite manufacturer was ThinkPads, I used to use thinkpads, a few units just for myself for different functions from small ultra portable (for quick and simple office stuffs) to huge workstations notebooks. All thinkpads. I bought my last 3 units intentionally before Lenovo took over in 2005 on the Pc division of IBM.

It's by far better than those manufacturers that leaves it to be handled by a local distributor or retailers completely. E.g. Toshiba in Malaysia and HP even on their enterprise class workstations.

Makes Toshiba just like any other 2-3rd tier manufacturers like Asus or MSI. And their machines are much more expensive compared to specs and performance. E.g. The Toshiba z830 is over RM1,000 (USD-32x/) more expensive than a HP Folio or an Asus Zenbook and you get the same bad service handled by distributors that have no disregards of your problems. They are just a messenger and a bottleneck for problem resolution.

 

I have an Apple IPS display and it has glass panel on top from my understanding. The colors contrast better on the Apple. I am not a photographer/movie editor so I can't comment on color rendition/accuracy.

The Apple IPS display has better contrast and colors seem more vivid. To me glare is easily controlled by turning down the brightness and it still looks sharper than the Dell precision IPS lcd panel.

Again not commenting on color accuracy which I understand that the Dell u27xx, nec, hp zr30w(24w) and various eizo can outmeasure/perform.

 

They have it on the m6500 Covet, with the Edge2Edge glass. The new XPS 13 (ultrabook) is said to come with Gorrila Glass.

 

I am going to ignore the fact you are comparing a Dell notebook panel with the best desktop display Apple can build. How about comparing a Macbook Pro 17" display with its 6 bit 64k color panel to the 10 bit IPS display on the M6600. Yeah, I wouldnt either.

That makes no sense. You have a glossy screen reflecting everything in the room. You are going to fix this glare on the glass by turning down the brightness on you Apple display? Seriously? You have glare issues. So you are going to turn down the light producing thing on that display behind the glass? Turn down the panel behind the front glass to reduce the glare on the piece of glass in front of the display?!! That is ridiculous. That makes no sense.

Take a picture of you Apple IPS Glossy Cinema Display and show me how it looks when the bightness is turned up and turned down. Take a picture of your Dell IPS panel next to your Apple Cinema Display.

I am sorry if this comes off as disrespectful - but seriously. I know how the M6600 IPS panel looks next to an Apple 27" IPS cinema display. Unless you have a serious love for the blue tint on the Apple, something is wrong here.

 

Not sure where the anger/disrespect is coming from.

I am not stating a "professional" opinion.

The Apple IPS has a much brighter display with better contrast:

Brightness (typical): 375 cd/m2 vs 220 on the dell (or 287 according to your measurements)
Contrast ratio (typical): 1000:1 vs 600 on the dell

Not really sure what the controversy is to you -- geez. I have not made any absurd statements about black levels, white levels, delta e, gamma, etc. You are way overreacting.

Obviously it is also a desktop monitor with better backligting. Not sure why you are getting upset about how something "looks to me" vs. my professional opinion is that it has X levels of performance. Or what I think you should like more -- I did not say that did I?

My preference is simply of a matte vs glossy display. I was stating a PREFERENCE for IPS plus glossy on a laptop which is not possible right now (or if it is like in the Envy 15 then the LCD is deeply flawed and missing primary colors).

I probably would have gotten something like the covet if a version were available on the m6600 when it came out.

 

I am sorry. Honestly. Your views and opinions are yours. I need to respect them.

If you prefer a glossy screen that is fine. I personally prefer a matte screen.

The Apple Cinema Display is very nice. I have two employees that use them.

I will get better measurements of the M6600 IPS panel and post them. They do outperform many desktop panels.

BUT. Here is what I do know. The color on the M6600 panel is amazing. Better than the Apple 27" cinema display. Better than the Dell U2410. The reds are especially good. We run a color managed workflow among 6 people and the M6600's bullt in panel is better than our other displays.

It is what it is.

 

I agree with allbald. The m6600 if it were to be manufactured / designed to the same Display specification as to a Apple 27" Cinema display will not be able to compete with the HP Elitebook 8760w or the Lenovo w710ds. They need to balance with the costs. Those who are using Windows 7 just has more apps which are the choice of professionals at a more decent costs and more flexible hardware configurations on the Windows machines as well.

I'm happy with the m6600 Dell replaced me. Only problem is I personally prefer the 16:10 display which is much more productive for me. 1920x1080 is too small and good for movie / media consumption not as good as 16:10 1920x1200 for media, codes, models, rendering & other content creation purposes.

For the price of an apple, try the Samsung, Dell Professional or HP Performance displays.

Brightness at 300 cd/m2
Enjoy the smarter monitor with intelligent eco solutions. - S27A550H - LED Monitor - Monitor | SAMSUNG


Brightness at 370 cd/m2
http://i.dell.com/images/global/aja...9&~ck=dellSearch&~tab=specstab&~wsf=tabs&ts=5

Brightness at 400 cd/m2
HP LP2475w 61 cm (24") Widescreen LCD Monitor (KD911AT)

 

Also, your detailed reviews were many of the reasons I went this model instead of the HP 8760w (which I came close to ordering several times). So you were very helpful in all aspects of this purchase (as was a good portion of this thread).

I suspect I will come to appreciate the features of the display over time compared to to others (and it is nice crisp display on its own). I also suspect I will very much appreciate this panel on the few occasions it is in outdoor/bright environments.

Apple laptops were never really in the running for me because of the anemic hardware for the price -- and this coming from someone who just dropped $3200 plus tax on something for a better display/vid card combo.

The keyboard is less horrible than I imagined too -- at least it is not one of those chiclet monstrosities.

 

First off, what photographer works at 400 cd/m2? What do you want? Sh*tty dark prints?

Second, guess what - the built in IPS panel on the M6600 outperforms the Apple 27" Cinema display on color gamut and accuracy. Not kidding.

I have access to 2 27" Apple Cinema Display. In all of their blue tinted glory.

I also have access to 2 Dell M6600 laptops with thier IPS panels.

This week is going to be fun.

 

Good and bad when it's high brightness. Good for movies but bad for outdoors. The m6600 is built for engineering (sometimes outdoors like the oil and gas exploration surveys) and good enough for indoors when the collected outputs from the SCADAs are brought back for further analysis.

Extreme glossy can be annoying where your head have to swivel all around just to see/verify the output when you are outdoor, it's like having a car which has excessive chrome in parts where it looks better without the chrome.