New M6500 Discussion Thread

Hi Martin,
I ordered mine on 3-20. It was originally due to ship on 4-9 but on 4-9 the ship date was moved back to 4-14 so I find myself in the same boat as you, waiting impatiantly. I ordered an M6400 for my wife on 2-20 and last Thursday received notice that Dell no longer makes the M6400. Dell offered me an upgrade to an M6500 at the same price. I accepted because she needs a new laptop and they gave me a pretty good deal, i7-720QM, USB 3.0, FX 2800M, 128GB SSD, 160GB 7200 rpm, RGBLED, Intel 5300, 365 Bluetooth, DVD Slot Load, 3 years pro-support, 3 years complete care, and 3 years system track for $2,732. But her ship date is now 5-6.

Good luck with your ship date. I'll let you know what happens with mine.

 

I appreciate the quick response. Color management is a little intimidating to me. I've devoted a lot more time to my photography and need to step things up a notch.I'll be asking a lot more questions when my m6500 arrives and I try my first calibration.

 

I am using the Eye One. I cannot make any comparisons though with the others. I too use it for Lightroom as well as Illustrator and Pshop.

John

 

John
I assume the Eye one had no problem calibrating the RGB screen?

 

what does the system software do?

 

Made it over to TheZoid's house late tonight. Glad he is a night owl .

Only had about an hour and a half to compare panels. Will post details later.

Short answers:
His LG was measuring 6200K-6300k with a max brightness around 250 (or was it 270?) nits with a gamma curve of 2.6.

There was NOT some kind of night and day difference. I could see that uncalibrated the Samsung was a little blue and his was a little red. I could see that the Samsung was capable of being brighter. When calibrated they were really close. The Samsung was more saturated than the LG, but both were natural and the difference was subtle.

I took a ton of pics and bracketed the exposures. Many thanks to TheZoid for his patients as I tried to eliminate variables and take careful pics and measurements. Still, it had already been a long day and a long week - so by the end I the exhaustion was setting in and I am sure I forgot
something.

At the end of the night I have completely confirmed to myself that either of the two panels is acceptable. Each individual will prefer one or the other *if* they can see the subtle differences. The LG will look washed out or neutral while the Samsung will look over saturated or neutral - it all depends on what you are comparing to. TheZoid and I were looking at the screens side by side at matched levels calibrated by the same calibrator on the same night and the Samsung looked more saturated after looking at the LG, then the LG looked undersaturated after looking at the Samsung.


I wish there was a better punch line to this, but there is not. I know which panel I prefer, but that preference could easily change based on the situation.

 

Can you post the profile you made with Bokeh please? (and also the brightness used)

Anyway thanks to both of you, now we have an idea of each panel.

 

Hi Bokeh,


Ok I’ll bite, which display panel do you prefer…

Can't wait to see thus pictures, thank you to: theZoid and Bokeh for doing this...


Thank You,

 

I did native (6250ish k) and 6500k calibrations on the LG at brightness settngs of 5, 10, and full brightness. Will be working with TheZoid to get all 6 of them
posted.

 

You know me, I think through everything. I am currently not going to say which is my preferred panel because if I do, others may "create" issues with theirs.

The LG is easier to deal with. The Samsung "may" have a wider color gamut. Think of it like a guitar amp - the LG can go to a volume of 10, but the Samsung can go to 11. But, that 11 is a little over the top. Which one you prefer depends on whether you play jazz or metal.

The Samsung has a native gamma of 1.8 and the LG is 2.6. Neither is 2.2.

The Samsung has a native white point around 6600-6900k and the LG is 6200-6300. Neither is perfectly 6500k, but at some brightness levels the Samsung is.

The LG has a brightness of either 250 or 270 nits while the Samsung goes to 11 with a brightness of over 300. Photo editors wont get over 140nits.

The pure reds on the LG seem darker. The pure reds on thr Samsung can be more intense. Both calibrate out to a very usable red. The pure greens are the same to a lessor extent.

ok. crashing out. damn its been a long day