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Precision M4400 Owner's Lounge

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by cnpt, Aug 28, 2008.

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  1. kidjedi

    kidjedi Newbie

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    I've got the Delta. It fits tightly and seems well constructed.

    It's still a giant brick and not a Mac power supply though. :rolleyes:
     
  2. GordonHo

    GordonHo Notebook Geek

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    did anyone tried another power supply yet?
     
  3. chrous25

    chrous25 Notebook Consultant

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    I did a 90W dell one ant it was all fine just not fast charging.
     
  4. Thomas N

    Thomas N Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's here............

    223-9143 Precision M4400, Intel Core 2 Duo P8400, 2.26GHz
    311-8806 2.0GB, DDR2-800 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
    330-0825 Internal Backlit English Keyboard for Mobile Precision
    330-1652 Documentation (English) Latitude E-Family/Mobile Precision
    320-6719 512MB NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M Precision M4400
    341-6948 160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM
    311-8816 No Fingerprint Reader for Mobile Precision M4400
    320-6998 Black Wide Screen WUXGA RGB-LED LCD:D
    Windows XP PRO SP3 with Windows Vista Business LicenseEnglish
    430-3090 Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth 2.1 Minicard 330-0834
    130W 3-Pin, AC Adapter for Mobile Precision
    330-1525 US - 6 FT, 3-Pin Flat Power Cord for Mobile Precision
    313-6461 8X DVD+/-RW for Mobile Precision
    420-8667 Cyberlink Power DVD 8.0 Playback Softwa
    420-8010 Roxio Creator Dell Edition,9.0
    313-6831 Microphone only for Mobile Precision 4400
    430-3085 Dell WLAN 1397 (802.11b/g) 1/2MiniCard
    330-0884 No Intel vPro
    330-0832 Resource DVD with Diagnostics and Drivers for Vista
    312-0729 6-Cell/54-WHr Battery for Latitude E/Mobile Precision
    991-3287 Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus Onsite Service Initial Year
    989-2712 Basic Support: Next Business Day Parts and Labor Onsite Response 2 Year Extended
    989-5420 Basic Support: Next Business Day Parts and Labor Onsite Response Initial Year
    991-3288 Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus Onsite Service Extended Year(s)
    900-9987 Standard On-Site Installation Declined
    313-6798 No web cam w/ microphone for WUXGA LCD
    320-7020 15.4 inch Wide Screen WUXGA LCD
    310-8319 Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
    310-9160 Vista Premium Downgrade Relationship Notebook
    310-8977 Info SKU-Software and Peripherals products and solutions catalog included in system boxes

    Sub-Total : $1821.00
    Tax : $109.26
    Order Total :$1930.26

    The RGB LED display is sweet. Profiles nicely. It is an AG finish on the display. When profiling it was a toss up between level 6 or 7 brightness to achieve desired brightness, most monitors are actually way too bright out of the box.

    There is however about 1/2" of the right side that is not as bright, but it is very marginal and minimal.

    I have a 320G 7200rpm drive coming and I already added two - 2g sticks of OCZ memory, XP only sees 3.48G of RAM.

    It is an extended color gamet, I have no way to measure exactly if it is 100% argb.

    That said however, if you are not doing real color critical work I would not spend the additional money and just go with the 2ccfl 1920x1200 option. After having the 4400 with the 2ccfl option the RGB LED is better from a color point of view but the other display will be perfect for most uses.

    Basically the difference is, Adobe RGB is a larger color space, but unless you are working in the world of color managed applications....Photoshop, or other specific design applications the extra color is mostly wasted in a sense. Years back monitors were and still are designed to display the SRGB color gamet, created by Microsoft and HP, the majority of everyday applications including most web browsers do not display argb. That is slowly, very slowly changing but for most uses the differences are not critical. And if an image is tweaked and optimised to look good in argb then uploaded to the web, colors can look flat and washed out, so it is not simply that more colors are better.

    The 2ccfl display was very, very good. Profiled nicely.
     
  5. checho

    checho Notebook Consultant

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    Thomas: Can you compare the brightness of RBGLED vs 2CCFL?
     
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    janik_dk Notebook Consultant

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    Thomas: Glad to hear the RGBLED didn't disapointed you..
    Can you tell me what color the BACK of the LCD lid is? Black or silver?
     
  7. Sahin

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    Ok now I am thinking about getting the Dell M4400, with the Nvidia M770.

    Few questions:

    1.I heard there is a downclocking problem more info?

    2. COD4 and COD5 do they need vista? I really want to just use XP, with 8GB of ram I plan on, that would be awesome on XP.

    3. M770, is that GDDR3, how is the performance compared to the same chipset the 9600GT, I remember with the last gen cards the Professional cards where slightly better.
     
  8. guardian653

    guardian653 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sahin

    1. As far as I know, the problem still exists. The fan just isn't kicking in at the right time and it begins to overheat forcing the chip to throttle down. It doesn't help that both the GPU and CPU are sharing one fan. However for some using the A03 BIOS helps lessen the problem.
    2. COD4 doesn't require Vista, don't know about COD5. Though, unless you plan on using XP64 you can't use 8 GB of ram. Vista64 would be your best bet (more drivers, stable, etc)
    3. At least one member was able to get 7417 in 3dmark06
     
  9. Thomas N

    Thomas N Notebook Enthusiast

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    1) Back of the lid is silver/charcoal, not a bright silver, would look a whole lot sleeker black.

    2) Brightness.....either one and both were way too bright out of the box. My opinion is that they may be about the same on max brightness more or less, but the 2 ccfl version, the colors may have started to "wash out" a tiny bit due to the increased brightness on high brightness -vs- the wide gamet RGB LED retaining a little more punch in the colors at high brightness settings.

    Note though that I am saying very marginal amounts here. The RGB LED is not a huge, huge difference over the 2 ccfl, IMO. I bet if they were side by side and adjusted and profiled and showing the same images that the wide color gamet of the RGB model would only really be obvious in certain images.

    And keep in mind that the wide gamet display will start to make some colors, reds and greens look weird like if you really, really over saturate the colors of an image in PS. It is useful for a narrow range of tasks, such as editing images in ARGB and Pro RGB color space, for me anyway.

    I do not game and maybe even only a couple of times a year or so if I am out of town watch a video/movie on a laptop. It is mainly for editing and evaluating images in the field for me, so my opinions will be biased toward those uses.

    The two Dell 4400s, the 2 ccfl and the RGB LED are two of the finest displays that I have seen on a laptop. I don't think I have ever seen an IBM Flexscreen which I think is maybe still king of laptop displays. Until they incorporate high end panels the type of backlight is only going to make limited differences.

    The panel model numbers are the same when I look at display properties in devise manager, so I am guessing it is just the back light that is different.

    But all is not rosey in RGB LED land. I hurried to install Adobe Creative Suite on the new 4400 to finish a print project, so I package the project in indesign on one machine and load it onto the new Dell, can't install some of the fonts. Huh?

    So I need to finish this project today, so I go to Adobe's site and buy some fonts, thinking maybe it is some copyright weirdness in those other fonts. Project has to get to the printer today. So.

    New fonts will not install. :(

    Dig a little on Adobe's site and find this forum post, read post #51.
    ###.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b61a73
    "Hi Ben,

    Did you get this solved?
    I have the same/similar problem on a Dell Precision MM4400 with nVidia Quadro FX 770M Running WinXP Pro SP3

    Thanks "

    So most of the font issues here are with Dell machines and maybe it looks like a video driver issue? I checked Dell's site and I have the latest video driver available, and I checked Nvidia and drivers for the 770M says to contact the supplier for drivers. So, WTH.

    I have spent hours if not a day's worth of time getting this laptop and now I can not install the fonts that I need. Mainstream fonts from Adobe at that. On a machine clearly marketed with features for a design professional.

    Also,Dell was supposed to ship this machine next day, well on tracking it showed Ground, so I call Dell and ask them why if on the order it says next business day delivery does it say FedEX Ground in tracking. quote" They all say ground, but it is really next day". So I say, let me understand this, tracking says FedEx ground, but that it is really shipping next business day? "Yep, you should get it tomorrow". I say, well it it shipped last Friday, next business day then I should be getting it today, Monday (yesterday)....but tracking shows it coming tomorrow, Tuesday? how is that? "Let me ask my supervisor", "it shipped after business hours on Friday at 8pm". I say, well I can ship overnight up till 9pm, Dell can't do that too? At that point I let it go, nothing to be done about it anyway.

    But now I will be back on the phone in the morning, this should be interesting since I have installed like a million fonts before and the same fonts will install on a different PC.

    I hope they have at least changed the on-hold music....
     
  10. LPTP-LVR

    LPTP-LVR Notebook Deity

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    @ Sahin

    1. Read this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=308562&page=15 I personallly don''t have any issues in A09, A03 or A02. Just in A06 the downclocking and stuck fan happened, now all is good. It does still exist with some users though.

    2. As said ealier you will need a 64bit OS to use all the 8gb RAM. Vista 64 works fine though and there aren't really any reasons to not use it. It's still a personal question which OS you like better ofcourse but vista is working great here. I do use xp but that's only because some of my audio apps won't run in vista.

    3. 3dmark06 scores are even higher than 8000 when using overclocking. I got to a 7800+ myself but i don't want to push it too far with heating up etc so i OC it to get around 7100 now, gaming is great with those setting :)

    @ Thomas N

    The hardware-id is the same for the RGB LED?? Is it SEC-5443...is there any other way too check if you actually have an RGB-LED because i think it's not really possible to have the same hardware-id. Paret number on shiplist might be the same but not in your device manager list.
    The font issue is really weird...got Font Folio installed here and no problems at all....cant imagine what would be causing that and it definetly shouldn't be an issue on this machine!!

    Sorry to hear they seems to play the same hold tape everywhere!! Total crap!! lol

    edit: btw i got a Pantone Huey Pro calibrator which got me very good color results on the 2CCFL screen. Really glad i tried this device instead of the more expensive calibrators. Huey pro is only $70 or something on ebay and result are the almost the same as with the Lacie calibrators which cost around $350. I would advise EVERYONE with the 2CCFL screen to do so, colors look MUCH better!!
     
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